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longtimespur

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#22
I'm watching Mainz v Freiberg and it's half=time so ref blows half-time whistle. The players go off. Then ref gets confirmation from VAR that there may have been a handball in the penalty area.
Ref checks the screen and decides it's a penalty for Mainz and they score from it. Absolutely the most ridiculous I've seen so far.
 

cwy21

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It's such a clear PK that I'm shocked most of the players didn't make a big deal out of it. Certainly the craziest moment in the history of VAR.
 

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In terms of the LOTG, I see no reason why this not above board. Play had not restarted and the refs were standing on the touch line when the VAR informed them that a clear error has occurred.

A common "what if" for refs is the goalkeeper punching an opponent in the GK's penalty area right before the ref blows for full time. The AR informs the referee what happened and when it occurred. In that situation, the ref is allowed to give the PK and red card since he received new information from his crew that he was not aware of when the full time whistle blew.

This is pretty much the VAR example of that case. I'm sure it will be spun as "VAR craziness" and "Another VAR mistake", but it was a PK and it was fully legal in the laws of the game.
 

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Commentators said he'd blown for half-time and the Freiberg players were already off the pitch and down the tunnel.
Seems VAR took too long to inform the ref.
Can't argue about the outcome but the procedure is terribly slow
 

cwy21

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Seems VAR took too long to inform the ref.
I clocked it at 41 seconds between the handball occurring and the referee showing signs that the VAR told him something was up. Apparently a camera in the tunnel showed that the defending team was refusing to come back on the field at first, which is a big part of why it took 6 minutes to go from foul to penalty kick. However 41 seconds between foul and VAR informing the referee is pretty damn good actually.
 

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In terms of the LOTG, I see no reason why this not above board. Play had not restarted and the refs were standing on the touch line when the VAR informed them that a clear error has occurred.

A common "what if" for refs is the goalkeeper punching an opponent in the GK's penalty area right before the ref blows for full time. The AR informs the referee what happened and when it occurred. In that situation, the ref is allowed to give the PK and red card since he received new information from his crew that he was not aware of when the full time whistle blew.

This is pretty much the VAR example of that case. I'm sure it will be spun as "VAR craziness" and "Another VAR mistake", but it was a PK and it was fully legal in the laws of the game.
It sounds like the error was in allowing the players off the pitch while still reviewing an incident. Hopefully they'll learn from this.
 

cwy21

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It sounds like the error was in allowing the players off the pitch while still reviewing an incident. Hopefully they'll learn from this.
Think about how crazy this situation was though. You had a clear handball that only one or two players briefly asked for in the final couple seconds of a half. I can't think of a situation where the shouts from the attackers were so muted considering it was clearly a handling offence. 999/1000 times you have a PK in the final 5 seconds of a half, the players would have been surrounding the ref after the halftime whistle went.

In yesterdays match, if five players come up to the ref saying "handball ref! How did you not see that?!", then the players and refs aren't going to leave the field until VAR clears it up. This was a crazy situation where the players didn't even realize a PK should be given and the refs had no idea that anything was up.
 
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