Villareal Friendly

[thinktank]

Taarabt is the funniest Professional footballer I have ever seen, he plays like that older kid who turned up over who no one knew and just took everyone on all the time

Perfect explanation. :lol:

 

[tylaw]

£20 isn't expensive...for you.
What about someone on benefits, or a minimum wage with kids.
Not saying this applies to jondesouza (good buddy:grin, but what if he really pushed th boat out to take his lad to the football last night and it was a rare treat for both of them?

With regards to the whole 'football being too expensive' argument I can assure you that we are both singing from the same hymn sheet and it is getting too expensive for ordinary folk to take their kids to football (not just premiership, but championship and even some league 1).

With regard to football becoming cheaper in order to satisfy people on benefits, I'm not going to start debating this on here but i'll just chuck in my two pennies worth anyway...
Regardless of what £20 is to me (and it's not 'inexpensive' like you seem to think), FUCK PEOPLE ON BENEFITS. I spend enough of my hard earned money on wiping their fucking arses to have them encroaching on my enjoyment of football as well.

 

[tylaw]

I just also felt it was wrong of Tylaw to arbitrarily decide that £20 is 'nothing' when to some folk it would actually be quite a big thing indeed (especially when, as rockyhotspur points out, you add transport costs, et al. In my original post, using jondesouza as an example, I was just assuming that him and his lad were travelling from 'around the corner'. For all we know he could have been travelling from Scandinavia or the antipodes:shrug:

I didn't say it was nothing (which you have used quote marks for), i said it wasn't expensive and by this I mean it wasn't expensive compared to some other tottenham tickets (it is less than 40% the cost of a Sunderland ticket for example).

And bearing in mind that was the topic of your post i don't think it was an arbitrary decision.

 

[StartingPrice]

With regards to the whole 'football being too expensive' argument I can assure you that we are both singing from the same hymn sheet and it is getting too expensive for ordinary folk to take their kids to football (not just premiership, but championship and even some league 1).

With regard to football becoming cheaper in order to satisfy people on benefits, I'm not going to start debating this on here but i'll just chuck in my two pennies worth anyway...
Regardless of what £20 is to me (and it's not 'inexpensive' like you seem to think), FUCK PEOPLE ON BENEFITS. I spend enough of my hard earned money on wiping their fucking arses to have them encroaching on my enjoyment of football as well.

How does someone suggesting that a person gong to a football match who is 'currently' unemployed, but might have spent years and years contributing to society, might not find £20 cheap, mean that 'the unemployed are 'encroaching' upon your enjoyment of football?
As for the bit about 'enough of you hard earned money...wiping their fucking arses', I am guessing you have issues that you just have to introduce into a debate that had nothing to do with this at all...perhaps you would like to take it over to chat (there might be someone who thinks you are wise there).
Personally, I couldn't care less, about your petty (though no doubt extremely well-thought out ideas) ideas on unemplyment, I was merely pointing out that there would be people for whom £20 was quite expensive.

£20 isn't expensive, even if it a friendly.

For all the bitching that can be done about club prices (£54 v Botlon, £76 v Man City, £54 v Sunderland, £78 v West Ham etc.) I don't think that the £20 for last night ranks very highly.

I didn't say it was nothing (which you have used quote marks for), i said it wasn't expensive and by this I mean it wasn't expensive compared to some other tottenham tickets (it is less than 40% the cost of a Sunderland ticket for example).

And bearing in mind that was the topic of your post i don't think it was an arbitrary decision.

Putting 'nothing' in single quotes is something that is done in order to indicate a number of things...in this instance that I was giving an approximation of what you said without it being exact (in other words, hinting at your meaning, whilst using artistic license). If I wanted to give an exact quote of what you said I would have used the double quote "like this"...that is the correct usage.

As for the rest of it, do you even know what the topic of my post was...that fans who boo, if they are booing because 'they' are unhappy about the price, should take this issue to the club, and not potentially effect the heads of some young players:shrug: That was it. I made no comment on whether I thought it was expensive or not, no comment about whether I thought it was value for money or not. Just that if some fans had these issues they should go straight to the club.

Commenting, as an aside, on someone saying that £20 (before transport costs), "isn't expensive", and that it doesn't rank "very highly", was merely to highlight the subjective nature of your statement...in the context of the debate. If the suggestion is that some fans booed becuse they felt that £20 was too expensive for the quality on view, and you say it "isn't expensive" is dependent on what you consider to be expensive, and some peope (for whatever reason...Benefits recipients was just an example:roll may consider that to be expensive (irrelevant of whether other games were 'even more' expensive), is a subjective statement, period. So it just plain doesn't matter if you qualified it with other prices that were 'more' expensive, it was still a subjective statement. I pionted that out...hardly justified your rant about the unemployed, did it:roll:

In any case, as I pointed out, in an effort (that clearly went over your head) to get back to the real issue, the main point for me was that fans shouldn't have booed the team if their issue was with club pricing policy; and if they were booing the team because of the resultof a meaningless friendly, it's a bit sad, really.

 

[tylaw]

How does someone suggesting that a person gong to a football match who is 'currently' unemployed, but might have spent years and years contributing to society, might not find £20 cheap, mean that 'the unemployed are 'encroaching' upon your enjoyment of football?
As for the bit about 'enough of you hard earned money...wiping their fucking arses', I am guessing you have issues that you just have to introduce into a debate that had nothing to do with this at all...perhaps you would like to take it over to chat (there might be someone who thinks you are wise there).
Personally, I couldn't care less, about your petty (though no doubt extremely well-thought out ideas) ideas on unemplyment, I was merely pointing out that there would be people for whom £20 was quite expensive.





Putting 'nothing' in single quotes is something that is done in order to indicate a number of things...in this instance that I was giving an approximation of what you said without it being exact (in other words, hinting at your meaning, whilst using artistic license). If I wanted to give an exact quote of what you said I would have used the double quote "like this"...that is the correct usage.

As for the rest of it, do you even know what the topic of my post was...that fans who boo, if they are booing because 'they' are unhappy about the price, should take this issue to the club, and not potentially effect the heads of some young players:shrug: That was it. I made no comment on whether I thought it was expensive or not, no comment about whether I thought it was value for money or not. Just that if some fans had these issues they should go straight to the club.

Commenting, as an aside, on someone saying that £20 (before transport costs), "isn't expensive", and that it doesn't rank "very highly", was merely to highlight the subjective nature of your statement...in the context of the debate. If the suggestion is that some fans booed becuse they felt that £20 was too expensive for the quality on view, and you say it "isn't expensive" is dependent on what you consider to be expensive, and some peope (for whatever reason...Benefits recipients was just an example:roll may consider that to be expensive (irrelevant of whether other games were 'even more' expensive), is a subjective statement, period. So it just plain doesn't matter if you qualified it with other prices that were 'more' expensive, it was still a subjective statement. I pionted that out...hardly justified your rant about the unemployed, did it:roll:

In any case, as I pointed out, in an effort (that clearly went over your head) to get back to the real issue, the main point for me was that fans shouldn't have booed the team if their issue was with club pricing policy; and if they were booing the team because of the resultof a meaningless friendly, it's a bit sad, really.

:duh:

 

[StartingPrice]

:duh:

:think:

I'm putting you on ignore, 'cos you're a twat:hello:

 

[tylaw]

I'm putting you on ignore, 'cos you're a twat:hello:

I could have just copied and pasted certain words from your quote. Oh, I did!

It's not an insult, it's a pastiche!

 

[Breezer]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece
corluka is HORRIFIC at centre back .. f*** me!!!!


He is pretty awful, If I were him I'd be worried about getting in the starting 11 on this performance, You can't deny the fact that Walker at right back looks a very good option.

Last week I was probably the only person on SC who said Corluka is not good enough. Many people didnt agree.... and before you all say CB is not his postion thats just B******s! A PRO defender should be able to slot in at CB, the fundamentals of defending are the same. Its actually an easier postion to play then RB.

It doesnt matter how well you read the game you will eventually be found out by pace!

 

[Teemu]

A PRO defender should be able to slot in at CB, the fundamentals of defending are the same. Its actually an easier postion to play then RB.

No, what? It's a completely different position. Think of the full-backs we've had recently, would you really want someone like Assou-Ekotto or Young Pyo Lee playing CB? It's a completely different skillset, obviously there are some players who can play both (Micah Richards, for example), but it doesn't mean all full-backs can play centre-back.

I played at right-back for my school and in that position was probably our best defender, but when I was put at centre back for a half I was absolutely clueless, it's entirely different.

 

[kcmei]

what worries me is that the season starts very soon and we do not look prepared at all

 

[rich75]

Last week I was probably the only person on SC who said Corluka is not good enough. Many people didnt agree.... and before you all say CB is not his postion thats just B******s! A PRO defender should be able to slot in at CB, the fundamentals of defending are the same. Its actually an easier postion to play then RB.

It doesnt matter how well you read the game you will eventually be found out by pace!

I'm fairly certain I remember Lee Dixon and Mark Lawrenson analysing England against Germany saying that it's a complete bitch switching defensive positions largely due to positioning being utterly different. I think I might trust them on this one over you.

 

[littlemandefoe]

I don't really receive an income, I don't work and the only few quid I get is from my dad. What he gave me is to last me the whole month and i spent 40 quid to get there and buy a ticket and witnessed a poor performance.

It's a shame, it's just as if nobody really cares. Their mentality is to see the game as a chance to get 'match fit' but you would hope these players would take the opportunity to show the people who came out some football as well as stake a claim to take the position. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting all guns blazing but I mean... Villarreal are a good side but not 1-4 better. Did they have a full side out? I'm not too sure but I know their first keeper wasn't in the squad as well as two other defenders but I stand to be corrected.

If you had the opportunity to grace the Lane every week, would you give it your all like your DREAM about every night? Would you show the emotion the fans do when you loose on the pitch or if you miss place a ball? Do you think the way these players are brought up, they are taught differently and in a professional way that takes away from the raw emotion that the fans would show?

Maybe its frustrating to us because we expect differently or perhaps maybe its emotion that spills out when people talk about these subjects...

Im not saying footballers don't have passion but a question I hope maybe someone can answer is 'Why can't you see footballers share the same passion on the field as a true fan in the crowd?'

That question might be of poor standard but it gets the message across and its just something that annoys me. Like when Redknapp doesn't get out of his chair and give encouragement to the players. I've asked the question before to mates and they say that the players know what they need to do and its their job. But football is unpredictable, nobody knows what's going to happen...

 

[spursgirls]

No, what? It's a completely different position. Think of the full-backs we've had recently, would you really want someone like Assou-Ekotto or Young Pyo Lee playing CB? It's a completely different skillset, obviously there are some players who can play both (Micah Richards, for example), but it doesn't mean all full-backs can play centre-back.

I played at right-back for my school and in that position was probably our best defender, but when I was put at centre back for a half I was absolutely clueless, it's entirely different.

John Terry couldn't even cope with changing from right to left CB for England, so I'm sure it's a much bigger change in the mentality needed to go from RB to CB.
I always hate square pegs in round holes! :bang:

 

[brett.spurs]

Lennon and Hudd are both PRO midfielders, I'm sure they could do just aswell if we swapped their roles :lol:

 

[Damian99]

Corluka can play just as well at RB/CB and LB the fact is he's shit at all of them :wink:

 

[StartingPrice]

Lennon and Hudd are both PRO midfielders, I'm sure they could do just aswell if we swapped their roles :lol:

mg:

Brett, I just know you are joking. You must be. Must...mg:

 

[jondesouza]

That must of been a really special night for you taking your son to the game for the first time. My boys coming up for three now and i really want to take him to a game, but he's not so good with the sitting down and staying still yet.

It was his first game seeing the first team. I took him to the Spurs v Arsenal academy game at the end of the season before last. Definitely too young at three - I think we had to go to the loo four times! He was much better on Thursday though.

 

[jondesouza]

:up:
Sorry for prematurely ageing your lad

p.s. I wasn't actually hinting that you were one of the booers, just saying £20 is a lot to pay for a game that is meaningless pre-season fodder...the club could've charged less, and for you, it being a bit of an occasion and all, hearing booing wouldn't have been ideal.

Probably a bit more than they could have charged especially for an evening kick off. It was by no means busy and lower ticket prices would have helped improve the gate.

Didn't hear any boos to be honest.

 

[StartingPrice]

Probably a bit more than they could have charged especially for an evening kick off. It was by no means busy and lower ticket prices would have helped improve the gate.

Didn't hear any boos to be honest.

Glad to hear it.

Young'uns should be 'blooded' gently...imagine taking a toddler to a NLDEek