Weakest part of our new look team?

[JJ1978]

I say this 'at the moment' as there are more transfers to come, but i think we need to strengthen our defence more, especially in the centre. Asking King, Woodgate & Dawson to be fully fit for the whole season is a lot. It might happen... but I still think we need another proven centre back to help with our top 4 fight.

 

[Liquid-Len]

I agree, but....
Hasnt every spurs fan on every forum said the same thing all summer?

 

[DC_Boy]

ATM the whole of the back 4 looks suspect with question marks over form/fitness of all the much vaunted back 4

Then up front we've only got one fit and functioning out and out striker -

and we've only got one decent keeper AFAIK (maybe one of our reserves could step up - maybe not - i'm not convinced)

so loads of weaknesses -

I honestly can''t narrow down our finishing position to more than between 6th and 12th ATM (I've gone a bit more optimistic than last week's 6th-15th)

 

[jonnyp]

I say this 'at the moment' as there are more transfers to come, but i think we need to strengthen our defence more, especially in the centre. Asking King, Woodgate & Dawson to be fully fit for the whole season is a lot. It might happen... but I still think we need another proven centre back to help with our top 4 fight.

Quality DM, backup CB better than Dawson and Arshavin and we're done as far as I'm concerned.

 

[MarkinJapan]

Berbatov is all but gone, with just Darren Bent up front that has to be our weakest area at the moment (fingers crossed he stays or we make signings). If Berbs goes and Bent gets an injury we're well and truly buggered!

 

[aws_young]

All lies on Berbs moving or not.

We need a DM (Veloso please!) and another CB (Coloccini would be nice) and we are all good. But if Berbs leaves we need another world class striker and that could prove difficult.

 

[rez9000]

Berbatov is all but gone, with just Darren Bent up front that has to be our weakest area at the moment (fingers crossed he stays or we make signings). If Berbs goes and Bent gets an injury we're well and truly buggered!

We have Gio, and Pekhart, so it's not as if we dont' have anyone to cover should the unthinkable happen.

The weakest part of the squad is the defence. We have three out and out centrebacks. Even if Gunter has been used there by Wales, he hasn't played there at club level. You could argue that Zokora and maybe even the Hudd could be used there, but we need cover for our centrebacks. One isn't enough. We need two more CBs. One top-class and one young 'un.

 

[DC_Boy]

We have Gio, and Pekhart, so it's not as if we dont' have anyone to cover should the unthinkable happen.

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hi Rez have to disagree there - firstly there is nothing unthinkable about Bent getting injured - it happened last season - it happens to players all the time

secondly Gio or Pekhart are in no way adequate cover for Bent

thirdly even if Bent doesn't get injured he's liable to get pretty knackered playing every game

this week he's playd two 90 mins in 3 days - could be 3 in 5 days after this evening - 4 in 7 .... how clever is that

 

[spurs]

So in summary; our weakest point is lack of 2nd keeper, the defence, central midfield and no strikers.

 

[DC_Boy]

So in summary; our weakest point is lack of 2nd keeper, the defence, central midfield and no strikers.

you're not far off there spurs - tho I'm not too worried about central mid as we can round that by playing one up front

To me this talk that's coming from some about us challenging top 4 is way off beam - we're not even close with our current (fit and functioning) squad

 

[rez9000]

We have Gio, and Pekhart, so it's not as if we dont' have anyone to cover should the unthinkable happen.

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hi Rez have to disagree there - firstly there is nothing unthinkable about Bent getting injured - it happened last season - it happens to players all the time

secondly Gio or Pekhart are in no way adequate cover for Bent

thirdly even if Bent doesn't get injured he's liable to get pretty knackered playing every game

this week he's playd two 90 mins in 3 days - could be 3 in 5 days after this evening - 4 in 7 .... how clever is that

Dude, unthinkable doesn't mean impossible. I mean something that I'd rather not think about.

Although I agree that Pekhart and Gio aren't the best replacements for Bent, we do still have some measure of cover, whereas in defence we're stretched very thin.

So, in terms of where we're weakest, as opposed to weak, my personal take would be to look to the defence first and then sort out strikers. Plus, if the reports are true, we're going to be signing at least one more striker, so how weak we are up front becomes moot anyway.

I really think we need to sign a couple of defenders. What you say about the possibility of bent being injured is absolutely true, and by extension the same thing is true of our defenders, so it seems prudent that we get some cover for those positions... and soon.

 

[tRiKS]

In what universe are you in if you think there won't be 2 more strikers in before the start of the season? forget the amount of strikers we'll have and concentrate on the CB's to which we haven't had itk tip offs about.
I think we need one more in. Someone good enough to start in a mid table PL team but patient enough to realise he wouldn't play if the frist choice were fit. Thats a very hard combination to get isn't it. If King really is struggling still, the club would do well to be more honest because i'm positive a higher class of CB would turn thier heads towards THFC. Of course though i'm confident King will play a massive role this season.

After the money we've spent and the effort we've taken to get Ramos in, 5th is the minimum. nothing short of a bus crash with the frist team obliterated is going to stop us getting 5th.

 

[lukespurs7]

yea rest of our team is so damn good mabye just a striker needed but a CB is now priority. I think i'm correct in saying Ramos has been playing both Hudd and Zok there in the few pre-season games we've had. Well we will most certaintly be attacking if thats the case, our own version of total football is we are playing CM's at CB. But seriously we need a CB and a ST and then we can all just love life supporting spurs forever

 

[DC_Boy]

Dude, unthinkable doesn't mean impossible. I mean something that I'd rather not think about.

Although I agree that Pekhart and Gio aren't the best replacements for Bent, we do still have some measure of cover, whereas in defence we're stretched very thin.

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Hi Rez - firstly agree we are thin in defence -

2nd - I never said unthinkable meant impossible - you came up with that incorrect idea

some dictionary definitions

inconceivable; unimaginable not to be considered; out of the question:

clearly, to me anyhow, Bent getting injured is all too conceivable, imaginable - so it is not unthinkable as far as I'm concerned - you may not want to think about it but I hope our '4 amigos' are -

3rd - Gio and Pekhart are nowhere near good enough cover for Bent

we have Dawson Archibald Henville and Gunter for example as cover for King and Woodgate - that's not good enough either - but it's about the same level as expecting Gio or Pekhart to perform Bent's role

 

[DC_Boy]

Hi Triks - after that post I would suggest the universe you're in isn't the one I'm living in -

how do you know we're getting two strikers in - and to suggest we're effectively certainties for 5th is utter fantasyland

Tell you what - I'll give you 1 to 5 now we won't finish top 5 - that's way more generous than you're indicating - which is something of the order of 1 to 1,000

 

[biggsyboy]

its gonna be be the Ossie Ardiles reign again. score 5 up front but leak 4 at the back. we dont have a hard man tackling midfielder!!!!!.....the best team in the last few years had Carrick and The Bulldog breaking up the play.....Zakora/Hud aint quite the same quality

 

[JJ1978]

I could live with a 5-4 win week in, week out lol

 

[rez9000]

Hi Rez - firstly agree we are thin in defence -

2nd - I never said unthinkable meant impossible - you came up with that incorrect idea

No, you said that you believed Bent could quite easily be injured, and said that I put unthinkable as meaning that I couldn't imagine him becoming injured. I suppose you could argue that I've been semantically inaccurate. How about unspeakable? What I meant was something that does not bear thinking about, not something that I couldn't conceive of happening.

3rd - Gio and Pekhart are nowhere near good enough cover for Bent

we have Dawson Archibald Henville and Gunter for example as cover for King and Woodgate - that's not good enough either - but it's about the same level as expecting Gio or Pekhart to perform Bent's role

Ultimately, we're arguing what weakens a team more - no strikers or no defenders. For me, lack of defenders makes for a far weaker team than lack of strikers. OK, you may not score with no strikers, but at least if your defence is good enough you won't concede either.

 

[Lilbaz]

At the moment we still have Berbatov and Kaboul, yes they are likely to leave but if they do we will bring in players to replace them.

 

[DC_Boy]

No, you said that you believed Bent could quite easily be injured, and said that I put unthinkable as meaning that I couldn't imagine him becoming injured. I suppose you could argue that I've been semantically inaccurate. How about unspeakable? What I meant was something that does not bear thinking about, not something that I couldn't conceive of happening.



Ultimately, we're arguing what weakens a team more - no strikers or no defenders. For me, lack of defenders makes for a far weaker team than lack of strikers. OK, you may not score with no strikers, but at least if your defence is good enough you won't concede either.

No Rez you're the one who got it wrong - you said it was unthinkable - I said it was easily thinkable - ie imaginable, conceivavble - see the dictionary definitions I took the trouble to post for you

Yep if you'd have used a different word, then the mix up may have been avoided, but please don't pull me up on my English when I haven't made a mistake.

As for the defence or strikers biz - I'd already posted about the problems with our defence before your post - and have done so on many a time before that -

I didn't argue with you about the defence - just the striker issue - so once agin we're in confusion ally here