Well done Mr Levy

[kdspur]

at least 4 or 5 top players are needed and levy needs to sell up and fuck the right off.

bale and sandro will want out come next summer otherwwise.... we will be worse than arsenal in coming years for selling off best players to pay for stadium.

 

[StartingPrice]

Really your never going to be able to prove what,we did with Porto one way or the other,Munnthio was our main target main target all summer and the deal should have been sorted before the transfer window ended thats his job.
If you look at the deal with Vertonghen,Ajax played hardball with us,(One one my friends is the fans represntive on the board with Ajax and and they expected a certain price) and the deal was done.

I think, Levy a great chairman. We have been paying CL prices for Eufa cup football.
Having a state of the ART training facility, will it really take our players to the next level ,was the old training ground that bad.
As for the stadium, im not interested in a world class sainsburys, i personally think Enic won’t build the stadium.
Strategic partnership make me laugh, what it really means is a big club takes advantage of a smaller one.
I started going spurs in the early 80s and what a lot of people have forgotten, is how big this club actually is,
We are a giant of English football, the great clubs of English football are Man utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and spurs. Chelsea and City have money but no real fan base.
We had 9 mangers since Enic been in charge,Jol and much as I hate to say it Redknapp have been a success but the transfer windows have been disasters.
For me we are at the level, where we should be, but I want us to do better.

It looks like we have used the money ball system replacing VDV and Modric for Dempsey and Sigurdssonn.In January,getting in Nelson and Saha was a disaster,we saved wages on Pav,etc but we could have got third place.
Saving a 750k could have cost us 40 million.
As for youth policies, apart from the utd\Ajax teams most top sides struggle to produce players.

I use to be a fan, but the club want a customer, Spurs can a put a sixteen year season ticket up £500 pounds and then Steal my loyalty points.Football a expensive hobby now,it cost me £127 for two tickets a day off work,travelling,etc and we got hulimated.
So as a customer,im voicing my opinion and ive been uphappy with the product on show since January.

No, no-one is ever going to prove either way about Moutinho - and that is why it remains a Conspiracy Theory that the conspiracy theorists state endlessly, but when asked to explain why Porto, the FA and the whole of the media should play along with a false claim that Porto named a price then when it was met, raised the price, and then when that price was met, accepted it and then submitted faulty paperwork, they clam up. Until someone can provide a satisfactory explanation to that, it has to remain a conspiracy theory that doesn't actually make much sense.

Should he have concluded the deal? Well, I've never said it wasn't his job too (although, technically it is not, and I have always made it clear that I would prefer him to hire a DOF to conclude these deals, or a traditional style English/British manager that he can provide funds to and trust to conduct transfer business). I do think it was a mistake not to replace Modric. But, on the face of it (until the conspiracy theory can be explained - see above), I really don't that it was his fault that Porto submitted faulty paperwork. Could he have pushed for the deal earlier? Well, yeah, he could - but, until the final day, Porto were insisting that the buy-out clause of £32 million (I think) be met. And that was substantially more than Real were offering for Modric. Should we have accepted less for Modric and paid more for Moutinho? Get outta here! Should we have concluded the deal for Moutinho earlier? Maybe, but only if we could keep it secret, otherwise Real could have really shafted us on the price for Modric, knowing we had to sell, as we couldn't keep a totally disaffected Modric and Moutinho.

For what it is worth, what I think happened is this: Porto didn't want sell Moutinho and didn't need to. But Moutinho really did want to link up with AVB again, so they had to at least appear willing to proceed with the deal. So they played the waiting game, insisting to him that they would sell once the buyout clause was met and then, to appear reasonable to him, lowered the price...but with the intention of never finalising the deal no matter what. They did raise the price when the original named price was met was matched. They did accept the second bid. they did accept paperwork - and it was deliberately faulty. What this would mean was that Mr Levy, for whatever reason, failed to adequately cover for the eventuality of this deal not going through - leaving us without adequate alternatives to Moutinho, and in this way fecked the timeline out (or, in other words, he ran out of time). And he was completely duped and played by Porto.

See, my intention isn't that Mr Levy should be free from criticism, but that the criticism should make sense, and not depend on unprovable conspiracy theories. At least with this explanation, it does fit all of the facts - even if I can't prove it.

It is easy to say that we have been paying CL prices for Europa football, but what does that actually mean? I know as well as anyone that being able to afford to go to a football match these days is an expensive hobby. But, the sad truth is that even if we match, or even exceed our rivals in pricing, they have either bigger stadia, and so generate considerably more match-day revenues, or they have sugar-daddy owners who are bank-rolling them to a ludicrous degree, and one we can't hope to match. So, either way, much as we may grumble at increased prices, even to a level of a CL club, it is not really relevant as to whether we can qualify for the CL or not. Secondly, and I know it is fashionable to feign ignorance on this, but we have actually finished 4th in two out of the last three seasons, and really should have finished 4th in the other year, too. It was hardly Dan levy's fault that Mr Redknapp completely fecked an amazing position up last season, or that Chelsea had the most improbable CL victory the competion has ever seen, is it? The fact is, despite having considerably smaller revenues than our rivals, the club that Mr Levy is the Chairman of, has pretty much made us a top four club - and you, and others like you, are calling that a failure And don't forget, half way through the process of getting into this position, Citeh were suddenly gifted a huge amount of money - making our job far harder, and introducing another team into the competition for top 4 places.

Will a state-of-the-art training facility really take our players to the next level? Well, it is not enough to just herd the players up, dump them there, and wait for a herd of CristianoRonMessi's to come jogging out. But, it certainly gives us a better chance - unless you believe the fairy story of plucky Rocky running around in the snow with logs, while the nasty Ivan Drago attempts to make up for being a weak communist dupe by manipulating science If our best chance of competing is via attracting the best young players, who know they will find it difficult to break through at Citeh/Chelsea, then having the facilities to attract them certainly helps. As will having a record of producing fine young players - and we are well on the way to doing that, something that will be enhanced by the new facilities. But, continue to belief in a muddy, candle-lit pitch, flat-caps, one freezing changing room, etc., if you wish. I think you are wrong to dismiss this development.

Why do you laugh at the stadium that would finally give us the match-day revenues to compete? That is crazy! The Sainsbury's will help to pay for it, and keep it sustainable - why do you have an issue with that? Don't believe it will be built? Fine. I believe it will and will make us a much more competitive club.

Scoff at the strategic partnerships? Fine. I think that is silly and shows no awareness whatsoever of just what has been going on at the club - but, your choice.

Yeah, my first year as a Spurs fan have was the year we were relegated. I think I was nine. I didn't whinge and bitch and toodle off to support a move successful club, even though no-one, at the time, knew that we would be promoted straight away, and I have made lengthy posts on here explaining just how massive this club is. About how United hadn't won that many more trophies than us until well into Beetroot head's reign - so, just lose the inferiority complex and stop rewriting this dominance back in time to something that always existed, 'cos it didn't. So, no lectures on that, please. But I would like to think I had some realistic understanding of the situation at the moment. That does include understanding that our best chance of competing is via the production of our own players, a lot of time, effort and money has been put into that, and it is going well. It doesn't include bitching and moaning because we can't spend like a sugar-daddy club.

If the transfer windows have been such an unmitigated disaster, how do you explain that the team has, generally, got better and better?

You think we are on a level because you do not recognise the realities of football finance. The reality is that we have improved in every way, without getting in debt, while having a considerably smaller turn-over than our rivals, and that our turn-over has improved thanks to the financial management of Daniel Levy. Reality!

We all want better - including Mr Levy. It is, frankly, ludicrous to imagine otherwise.

I don't care what system we used - we didn't replace Modric with either Dempsey or Sigurdsson - they play in different positions. If we replaced Modric with anyone it was Dembélé, although, technical, Moutinho was the real replacement - see paragraph one. And, IMHO, replacing Modric with Moutinho and Dembélé would have been fucking fantastic business. We were starting to go well with just Dembélé, ultil he got injured - or didn't you notice that? And was it Levy's fault, too, that Dembélé got injured?

As for Pav...don't make me laugh. he was sold because he said that if he wasn't he would sit out the rest of his contract and leave on a free.

In regard to the last week, we had it out about the youth policy, and you know nothing either of the total change of ethos around our youth system, or of the young players we have coming through at the moment. You are projecting a previous state of affairs onto the present. Please, go back to that thread, and either show that I am wrong, or, like, maybe take on board something someone else has said, even if it means altering your opinion a bit, eh!

So, really, you are having another rant about Levy, that has little basis either in fact or in reason, because we lost yesterday. I am sure Levy is failing in his duties by not appealing directly to every player before every match not to make a stupid, twat challenge and get sent off

 

[jonathanhotspur]

avb probably took the job on the proviso that modric and vdv money = moutinho and willian/oscar. he got neither, we're suffering for it and it will be avb who takes the fall. rinse and repeat.

I think your point's a valid one but our defending is shambolic.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I think your point's a valid one but our defending is shambolic.

100% this, said the same in the match ratings thread.