ChristianBaler
Well-Known Member
- Aug 13, 2010
- 1,877
- 1,246
It was the quenelle and he's been on a free transfer ever since
What did Ekotto do ?
- Thread starter Bus-Conductor
- Start date
mpickard2087
Patient Zero
- Jun 13, 2008
- 21,901
- 32,613
Very much a middle third left back, I agree.
Blake Griffin
Well-Known Member
- Oct 3, 2011
- 14,171
- 38,501
i don't agree with the first four. i guess the quenelle thing did him in yeah, personally that entire saga passed me by, i still don't know what it means and who it's supposed to offend or where it came from - frankly i don't care either. avb sent him packing because he felt threatened by characters, all he wanted was a squad of robots who'd stick to their pre-rehearsed running lanes and nod when told to, everything that has happened since has is just a result of this, i highly doubt ekotto would be in this position had avb not happened.
mpickard2087
Patient Zero
- Jun 13, 2008
- 21,901
- 32,613
That's maybe true, I'm no fan of AVB, but Ekotto hasn't shown any form for ages. I used to rate him when many others didn't, but he regressed massively and he's had chances to rebuild his career (QPR) and hasn't taken them. There must be a reason no-one else wants him either.
ChristianBaler
Well-Known Member
- Aug 13, 2010
- 1,877
- 1,246
Being a fan of BAE, you should care about it because its ended his career with Spurs.
The quenelle is an anti-semitic gesture (nazi salute) that was brought into the media by a French comedian, one whom BAE personally invited to the Lane (idiotic).
Seeing as our club has strong ties to the Jewish community (and our chairman) he was banished.
Under AVB he and Adebayor were disturbances (which is no coincidence if you believe the stories of Ade's behavior under Poch). Who knows if BAE would have changed if he was brought into the squad but like Adebayor I'm guessing the club is thinking its better off without him based on some of his choices off the pitch.
Last edited:
- Oct 17, 2006
- 10,710
- 25,299
Thanks for the insight. I too liked and rated BAE but if like Ade, he was a disruptive influence, than we are better off without him. I must admit I was very disappointed with his WC antics and that's when that chapter closed for me
Bus-Conductor
SC Supporter
- Oct 19, 2004
- 39,837
- 50,713
- Thread starter
- #29
Don't forget to shout "he's behind you" if you see AVB behind someone someone will you.
Spurger King
can't smile without glue
- Jul 22, 2008
- 43,881
- 95,149
mano-obe
Well-Known Member
- Mar 2, 2005
- 4,306
- 7,594
The quinelle came way after he fell down the pecking order at the club. He never regained his form after his injury and I don't think AVB liked him all that much. Redknapp always confirmed what Ekotto said already, that he doesn't have much interest in football, I don't think AVB liked his style. AVB is very into all things football, he's a bit obsessed by it from what Jose used to say, so having a player like Ekotto must have driven him mad. Especially the way he used to cross his arms, chew on his gum and not join in the huddle.
I think the quinelle just was the icing on the cake for him. It's all a shame because for a season or two there along with Evra the best left back in the league
I think the quinelle just was the icing on the cake for him. It's all a shame because for a season or two there along with Evra the best left back in the league
HodisGawd
Well-Known Member
- Oct 3, 2005
- 1,745
- 5,958
Yes, for a season or two he was absolute quality. To say anything other than that is just rewriting history. However, he always seemed to me to be a bit of creature of habit who had to be in the team every week to be any good. He needed consistency. But as soon as AVB started rotating things he fell apart and went shit. And that's what people here seem to be judging his playing ability on. Obviously at the same time he was busy not getting on with AVB and being a total twat which must have added to that. Sounds like a lot of the reasons above - including "he's a wanker" - combined to create this ridiculous situation. And honestly, some of this stuff we know - imagine how much more of it there is we don't know.
Matthew Wyatt
Call me Boris
- Aug 3, 2007
- 2,224
- 1,988
BAE was one of my favourite players in recent years, for his character, outspokenness and afro mostly, but he was also a decent left-back. However, I'm not sorry he's been dropped, purely for footballing reasons. To be successful now you need players who'll do exactly what the coach asks of them and who try their hardest every game. Benny wouldn't do that.
On the personal level, I wish him all the best. The quenelle many have cited as the reason for his ostracism is an ambiguous gesture. I don't think it's anti-semitic but from some quarters it is anti-Zionist. I think mostly though, in France, it's anti-system, anti-establishment, and in a country where non-white citizens are afforded far less respect than they are in, for example, the UK, I'm not surprised it is (or was) seen as a rallying cry. It was perhaps naive and foolish of the likes of Anelka and Benny to rally, but I don't think it confirms them as any sort of bigot. It's good to challenge ones oppressors (yes, they're rich, unoppressed footballers but they came from those dirty backgrounds and know what it's like for the people still there).
And let's not forget what Benny did for the Tottenham community, vocally and financially. Haircuts, oyster cards and genuine compassion after the riots. Benny will always be a Tottenham 'legend' for me, albeit a somewhat oblique one.
On the personal level, I wish him all the best. The quenelle many have cited as the reason for his ostracism is an ambiguous gesture. I don't think it's anti-semitic but from some quarters it is anti-Zionist. I think mostly though, in France, it's anti-system, anti-establishment, and in a country where non-white citizens are afforded far less respect than they are in, for example, the UK, I'm not surprised it is (or was) seen as a rallying cry. It was perhaps naive and foolish of the likes of Anelka and Benny to rally, but I don't think it confirms them as any sort of bigot. It's good to challenge ones oppressors (yes, they're rich, unoppressed footballers but they came from those dirty backgrounds and know what it's like for the people still there).
And let's not forget what Benny did for the Tottenham community, vocally and financially. Haircuts, oyster cards and genuine compassion after the riots. Benny will always be a Tottenham 'legend' for me, albeit a somewhat oblique one.
Last edited:
Mouse!
Fookin' Legend in Gin Alley
- Aug 29, 2011
- 6,303
- 19,263
Are you suggesting he was blacklisted for literally being a grammar nazi?
ChristianBaler
Well-Known Member
- Aug 13, 2010
- 1,877
- 1,246
lol well spotted....ill edit it
DuDe
Well-Known Member
- Jun 23, 2007
- 7,049
- 3,950
IIRC it came out a day or two later that his team mates were throwing games and other corruption allegations?
If so, you can understand it if you're playing in the WC, and getting thrashed, then realise people around you are doing it on purpose.
Again, I could be mistaken about this, so please don't flame me if I'm thinking about the wrong thing, it is first thing in the morning.
sheringmann
Well-Known Member
- May 27, 2004
- 1,686
- 418
People are forgiving Evans. I think a few desperate clubs would forgive a quenelle? I believe Nasri pulled a quenelle as well...
Metalhead
But that's a debate for another thread.....
- Nov 24, 2013
- 25,502
- 38,621
The difficulty is that it is associated with Dieudonné who has been associated with anti semitism on more than one occasion. Moreover, and this is my opinion (although I am sure I am not alone in this) but it would not surprise me if the ambiguity is deliberate, just like when people talk about the 'Rothschilds' or the 'Zionists' when they mean Jews. I have seen plenty of posts on social media sites where people obviously don't have the courage to come out and say what they mean. I don't believe that BAE is anti semitic. I don't think Anelka is either come to that. What I do believe though is that just because a gesture is 'ambiguous' this does not mean that there are not more sinister undercurrents behind it. Just like not all anti-Zionism is just about Israel.BAE was one of my favourite players in recent years, for his character, outspokenness and afro mostly, but he was also a decent left-back. However, I'm not sorry he's been dropped, purely for footballing reasons. To be successful now you need players who'll do exactly what the coach asks of them and who try their hardest every game. Benny wouldn't do that.
On the personal level, I wish him all the best. The quenelle many have cited as the reason for his ostracism is an ambiguous gesture. I don't think it's anti-semitic but from some quarters it is anti-Zionist. I think mostly though, in France, it's anti-system, anti-establishment, and in a country where non-white citizens are afforded far less respect than they are in, for example, the UK, I'm not surprised it is (or was) seen as a rallying cry. It was perhaps naive and foolish of the likes of Anelka and Benny to rally, but I don't think it confirms them as any sort of bigot. It's good to challenge ones oppressors (yes, they're rich, unoppressed footballers but they came from those dirty backgrounds and know what it's like for the people still there).
And let's not forget what Benny did for the Tottenham community, vocally and financially. Haircuts, oyster cards and genuine compassion after the riots. Benny will always be a Tottenham 'legend' for me, albeit a somewhat oblique one.
Everlasting Seconds
Well-Known Member
- Jan 9, 2014
- 14,914
- 26,616
A bit flawed argument, isn't it? People are not forgiving Evans at all (sponsor withdrew, 12.000 fans signed a petition against him).
Outwardly having nazy-sympathies whilst employed somewhere with a history of a Jewish fanbase? Yeah, that's simply a detail, isn't it
.
