What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[spurslenny]

He's the only one I'm not comfortable with laughing at because I'm pretty sure he's got a condition, I'm not taking the piss, I think it's been covered on here before.
The others are just ripe for piss taking imo.

I agree.

His condition is that he's a deluded gnome looking lovechild of Wenger.

 

[Gb160]

I agree.

His condition is that he's a deluded gnome looking lovechild of Wenger.

Was referring to his autism.

 

[beats1]

If you pay the top players the top wages, you have to bump everyone else up too. That's why United are paying Lingard £100,000 a week.

I disagree slightly

The reason Lingaard gets paid so much, is because like many clubs man united are struggling with homegrown players and Lingaard is a homegrown player who is starting for united and playing better than their expensive imports

Also our wages at the club are performance related, should we do well the wages do go up quite a bit, so expect them to be high next year

Not to mention, if a squad player like Sissoko who isn't playing well, is earning more than the first team does that necessarily bump everyone else's wages up? In theory it should but in practice this likely doesnt happen.

Arsenal had the same wage structure us as but they always one or two players earning market value wages like Van Persie, Ozil and etc. They went wrong but offering walcott and co. first tier wages.

However I dont see why we cant do the same.

The club faces a big dilemma, they can sell it to players that we cant afford to pay high wages whilst our turnover is low but as we get more successful and our turnover grows, not to mention the new stadium income. Then players will expect to be paid higher.

Now I dont think we should be paying high wages but we will have to close the gap between ourselves and the 5th placed club in the wage table.

 

[Graysonti]

If you pay the top players the top wages, you have to bump everyone else up too. That's why United are paying Lingard £100,000 a week.

No you don't - this is people assumptions based on nothing.

There is a hierarchy of salary costs.

A right back will never be paid the same as a striker.

 

[spurslenny]

Was referring to his autism.

Doubt that. He's just a nob imo.

 

[nicdic]

No you don't - this is people assumptions based on nothing.

There is a hierarchy of salary costs.

A right back will never be paid the same as a striker.

I didn't say everyone needs to be paid the same, but if you give Kane or Alli the market rate, of what they could get elsewhere, then you have to do the same for everyone.

Kane could easily demand £200k a week at United, City, etc. and Walker would be able to demand £120+ I'd have thought, it's essentially a doubling of our whole wage bill, which we categorically cannot do.

 

[Gb160]

Doubt that. He's just a nob imo.

thanks doc.

 

[Disconosebleed]

Winning a trophy is the goal not getting a new player in the summer.

I wouldn't say winning a single FA Cup is the goal. Winning multiple trophies is the goal, and bigger ones than the FA Cup. Signing better players is a more solid stepping stone on the path to continued success than winning the FA Cup, which as I mentioned previously is an end in itself but doesn't offer any opportunity for growth.

 

[ERO]

orielly

 

[spurslenny]

thanks doc.

Ditto.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Arsenal had the same wage structure us as but they always one or two players earning market value wages like Van Persie, Ozil and etc. They went wrong but offering walcott and co. first tier wages.

This isn't true at all. Arsenal's wage bill has always been well above ours. They were paying what we are now 10 years ago.

 

[Ionman34]

Getting into their ballpark in regards to revenue would take a long, long time. Their commercial income is massive and that's purely down to having so many fans. Their fanbase has come about from dominating the most popular league in the world for 2 decades.

The only thing we can hope for is this NFL thing becoming a massive game changer.

Levy's heard the voice...

 

[Graysonti]

I didn't say everyone needs to be paid the same, but if you give Kane or Alli the market rate, of what they could get elsewhere, then you have to do the same for everyone.

Kane could easily demand £200k a week at United, City, etc. and Walker would be able to demand £120+ I'd have thought, it's essentially a doubling of our whole wage bill, which we categorically cannot do.

By that you are in essence assuming that every player at United in the same position is on twice as much.

I very much doubt that is happening

 

[beats1]

This isn't true at all. Arsenal's wage bill has always been well above ours. They were paying what we are now 10 years ago.

I didnt say that it was the same wage structure, I said they had a similar wage structure

They have a wage cap, which you will hear their fans talking about a lot. They currently believe they cant compete with other clubs because of this wage cap.

They pay their players more than we do but they use to have a wage cap for squad members of £100k. Meanwhile Ozil, Van Persie, Sanchez and etc. were part of their elite band. There would be one or two players who were their elite players and not subjected to that wage cap.

 

[Tucker]

Can we not throw the word Autism around at anyone who acts a bit strange please?

It cheapens a very serious condition. I've lived and worked with people with severe autism, it's far more than being a bit obsessed with something, or being socially awkward. Yes these can be part of it, but one does not always associate with the other.

I agree that Ty might not be quite the ticket. But it's not for us to label him as autistic, Aspergers, or anything else.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Is Ty the Will.I.Am lookalike?
Saw him wearing earphones with headphones round his neck the other day.
He might not be autistic, but he's definitely a bit spesh.

 

[Disconosebleed]

By that you are in essence assuming that every player at United in the same position is on twice as much.

I very much doubt that is happening

You'd be surprised. As has been widely reported, Lingard is on £100k a week - more than anyone in our side bar Lloris and Kane from what we hear. Be under no illusions, we pay significantly below the going rate for just about all of our players, and over the next couple of years we will either need to increase our wage bill (possibly through the sale of a big name - obviously this simplifies the finances hugely, but £50m for Kyle Walker would equate to £200k a week over the next five years, which might be the difference between losing and keeping four or five big name players if we put it towards their wages) or accepting that we will continue to be a feeder club for the elite teams of Europe.

The lure of Barcelona and Real Madrid is not something we can expect to offer any time soon, if ever - but if we're offering something approaching a similar wage for our top players that they might be offered at those clubs, then we have a chance of keeping them. While this excludes Galactico types like Bale who can command the type of crazy wage that would destroy us, if we're talking about players who are our top boys but would be 'mere' first teamers or even squad players a rung below the superstars at Madrid or Barca, then we're probably capable of paying them the same amount of money. I doubt either of those clubs would be willing to pay the sort of wages to Kane or Alli, for example, that would blow us out of the water.

 

[eViL]

Can we not throw the word Autism around at anyone who acts a bit strange please?

It cheapens a very serious condition. I've lived and worked with people with severe autism, it's far more than being a bit obsessed with something, or being socially awkward. Yes these can be part of it, but one does not always associate with the other.

I agree that Ty might not be quite the ticket. But it's not for us to label him as autistic, Aspergers, or anything else.

Try not to get triggered by the internetz my friend.

 

[Disconosebleed]

Try not to get triggered by the internetz my friend.

Try not to be a dickhead.

 

[Gb160]

Can we not throw the word Autism around at anyone who acts a bit strange please?

It cheapens a very serious condition. I've lived and worked with people with severe autism, it's far more than being a bit obsessed with something, or being socially awkward. Yes these can be part of it, but one does not always associate with the other.

I agree that Ty might not be quite the ticket. But it's not for us to label him as autistic, Aspergers, or anything else.

No ones throwing it around, the only people who have used the word are people who genuinely think he suffers from it, and feel it's not right to mock him in the same way that we mock the idiots on AFTV.