What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[dontcallme]

Yes, I do. Liverpool get it all the time with their players. They get less of the trophy nonsense because, well, they've won more trophies.

And this very morning, on Talksport, where they talked about how "Rachel Riley effectively ended her credibility in sport when she stupidly called Spurs legends".

And Leicester, when they won some trophy or other, more or less every player they had was linked with a move elsewhere.

Sanchez at Arsenal, and Ozil, their only decent players, were always being linked with a move away.

And there's a lot more than that. If ever a player at a lower club puts together a run of form and scores a few goals, he is linked away. Ask Fulham. Or Southampton. Or if they're in the relegation fight, any half-decent player is linked with a move.

It's as close to indiscriminate as it can be. It's bollox that we're singled out.

I maintain that a lot of it is we read online and mostly read about their own club.

A quick search on Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea right now will show a lot of negative press.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

I've heard it only this morning on the 'Sunday Supplement' tv show that Pochettino and Klopp, need to win a trophy.

Have you also considered that the media maybe suggest Spurs players have to leave more than they do other teams' players, because we pay less in wages.

Whilst money is not a trophy, I'm sure it has a rather large influence in people's thinking and football in general.

Is it just a coincidence that the clubs who seem to have the most money tend to win the most big trophies?

I'd suggest not.

Agreed. The other reason they link so many of our players with moves away to richer clubs is because we've got so many good players.

It's not complicated is it? It doesn't require bias or a conspiracy to explain it.

 

[dontcallme]

Agreed. The other reason they link so many of our players with moves away to richer clubs is because we've got so many good players.

It's not complicated is it?

So Lloris occasionally being linked with moves to bigger clubs and Mignolet not is because Mignolet is shot rather than there being an agenda?

You just might be onto something.

Apologies, couldn't find anything of note in the Bournemouth fourms. Lots of happiness at Southampton's current position.

 

[Hazardousman]

Yes, I do. Liverpool get it all the time with their players. They get less of the trophy nonsense because, well, they've won more trophies.

And this very morning, on Talksport, where they talked about how "Rachel Riley effectively ended her credibility in sport when she stupidly called Spurs legends".

And Leicester, when they won some trophy or other, more or less every player they had was linked with a move elsewhere.

Sanchez at Arsenal, and Ozil, their only decent players, were always being linked with a move away.

And there's a lot more than that. If ever a player at a lower club puts together a run of form and scores a few goals, he is linked away. Ask Fulham. Or Southampton. Or if they're in the relegation fight, any half-decent player is linked with a move.

It's as close to indiscriminate as it can be. It's bollox that we're singled out.

And yet, I read the news of other sides and watch pretty much every football broadcast on TV and I can clearly see that we are spoken about more in this way than any club around us.

Even supporters of other sides have mentioned it, it’s not bollocks whatsoever. The media is infested with personalities that support our direct rivals, I don't even give a shit what they say at this point (outside of them trying to influence officials which I believe is a real problem in this country and not just for us) but I just wish people would admit they are capable of bias like any other supporter is capable of it.

We had someone in the pundits thread the other day saying how refreshing it was to hear Craig Bellemy and Ryan Mason talking about Spurs without a ”But...” and the very person who posted it have themselves stated we are treated equally to other clubs, well if that is the case, why are they surprised to finally hear us get some praise without an undertone of negativity?

That in itself speaks volumes.

Anyway, let’s agree to disagree.

 

[Shadydan]

Supporters of other clubs think that we are media darlings and we get away with negative press, had a look at Redcafe earlier this weeks and there's hundreds of posts riddled with that.

It simply comes down to what you subscribe to and what you choose to read and take in.

 

[Hazardousman]

Supporters of other clubs think that we are media darlings and we get away with negative press, had a look at Redcafe earlier this weeks and there's hundreds of posts riddled with that.

It simply comes down to what you subscribe to and what you choose to read and take in.

You only have to look at the news now for someone like Liverpool compared to us and you can see the difference quite clearly with the stories being published on regular basis.

We are anything but media darlings.

I mean, Liverpool sold countinho and outside of.a few weeks the media barely mentioned it, they have had it referenced a few times but that’s it.

Now compared that to when we sold Bale.

 

[Shadydan]

And yet, I read the news of other sides and watch pretty much every football broadcast on TV and I can clearly see that we are spoken about more in this way than any club around us.

Even supporters of other sides have mentioned it, it’s not bollocks whatsoever. The media is infested with personalities that support our direct rivals, I don't even give a shit what they say at this point (outside of them trying to influence officials which I believe is a real problem in this country and not just for us) but I just wish people would admit they are capable of bias like any other supporter is capable of it.

We had someone in the pundits thread the other day saying how refreshing it was to hear Craig Bellemy and Ryan Mason talking about Spurs without a ”But...” and the very person who posted it have themselves stated we are treated equally to other clubs, well if that is the case, why are they surprised to finally hear us get some praise without an undertone of negativity?

That in itself speaks volumes.

Anyway, let’s agree to disagree.

Huh?

 

[dontcallme]

Media barely mentioned Coutinho? Jesus wept

 

[Shadydan]

You only have to look at the news now for someone like Liverpool compared to us and you can see the difference quite clearly with the stories being published on regular basis.

We are anything but media darlings.

I mean, Liverpool sold countinho and outside of.a few weeks the media barely mentioned it, they have had it referenced a few times but that’s it.

Now compared that to when we sold Bale.

Well there's your problem.

 

[Hazardousman]

Media barely mentioned Coutinho? Jesus wept

Pre-transfer and post-transfer yes, but have they constantly talked about it after every game? Mentioned how it would destroy their club from top to bottom? Called them legends? Said how they are known as being a selling club and how they will struggle to keep their other players?

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Pre-transfer and post-transfer yes, but have they constantly talked about it after every game? Mentioned how it would destroy their club from top to bottom? Called them legends? Said how they are known as being a selling club and how they will struggle to keep their other players?

They've mentioned it in every Pool game I've watched, yes. Not how it will pull the team apart, because they've been winning most of their games quite comfortably, but everything else, yes. Which is why Salah is always being linked away.

I think it's your perspective that's slightly on the wonk here.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Pre-transfer and post-transfer yes, but have they constantly talked about it after every game? Mentioned how it would destroy their club from top to bottom? Called them legends? Said how they are known as being a selling club and how they will struggle to keep their other players?

So.......If they say a certain thing about us, they should say the same thing about the next club. And I'll assume if they do it for us, it's only be right and fair in your view that they do it for every club. Anything less would obviously be agenda and conspiracy against the clubs left out.

It wouldn't be long before every time they open their gobs they'll be making a two hour speech in order to cater for this approach. They wouldn't have time to commentate on the actual game or concentrate on whatever they are supposed to be doing

Ridiculous.

 

[kaz Hirai]

 

[mckenz]

were did the grammer thread go?

















taking one for the team

 

[Streetspur77]

were did the grammer thread go?



















taking one for the team

*Gramer

 

[dontcallme]

*Gramer

*Grandma

 

[Mr.D]

were did the grammer thread go?

















taking one for the team

*Gramer

*Grandma

Must. Not. Bite.

 

[Streetspur77]

Must. Not. Bite.

Just for next time, a sentence must include an independent subject and verb, as well as expressing a clear thought which could make sense by itself.

Here's a link if you want to read up on sentence construction.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/factsheet/en30stru-l1-f-rules-and-egs-to-help-you-make-a-sentence

 

[jurgen]

https://mobile.twitter.com/IwobiFlick/status/971816338221142016

Funny, but imagine publicly defining yourself as a Granit Xhaka fan.. kids these days

 

[mightyspur]

Every club has players being linked with moves away, that is a given in professional football, my point is the frequency in which ours are linked away.

Every bad result we have, the narrative that follows is ”They can't keep their best players” among many other nonsensical ramblings.

Liverpool and Arsenal aren’t known as ”selling clubs” in the media, I have yet to hear a pundit utter those words about either of them (I am happy to be proven wrong here btw.)

These clubs might take criticism for selling a player or not having won a trophy from time to time, I am not denying that but it’s like I said, the frequency in which it happens to us is the issue, so far, every game this season, post-match or pre-match has been the same old discussion and if it hasn't been about that it’s been about how Alli is diving (whilst they ignore every other player who dives.)

You say others lack intelligence for not substantiating their claims but you completely remove context from yours and claim clubs are treated equally when that quite clearly isn't the case and it doesn't take a genius to see that.

It’s not about pundits and media hating Spurs, it’s about the media being made up mostly of people supporting the ”bigger clubs” in other words, we lack representation in the media who will be biased towards us and give it a healthy balance.

Ultimately, I don't believe any of these outlets act professionally, the only paper I have seen with a half decent sports column in The Guardian (a paper I otherwise find unbearable.)

Skysports these days is essentially talksport levels of stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...elling-club-stand-in-coutinho-way-luis-suarez

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club...elling-club-tag-to-move-on-from-coutinho-exit

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/liverpool-officially-named-biggest-selling-8881850

https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...suggests-that-is-still-the-case-36521984.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sing-pieces-jigsaw-challenge-title-again.html