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Metalhead

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I agree but that shouldn't have anything to do with Kane and acknowledging his quality by making such remarks. It's not coherent thinking. They're still bigger than us and they've been vastly more successful ever since I supported spurs in 1991 but doesn't mean I don't think clearly and objectively

Basically they're ****s.

Don't get me started on RAWK.
Absolutely. Unfortunately some football fans are incredibly blinkered.
 

dagraham

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Finally a reasonable poster on FoxesTalk, although the Vardy bit is bollocks tbf.

Some reasonable views there. Although it appears to have been run through Google translate, because it isn't English in any form that I recognise.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
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Oh, maybe English isn't his first language then. Or am I giving him more credit then he deserves?
I dunno, its confusing as he goes on about seeing Vardy and Kane play together for England.
 

CockOnBall

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very telling that they didn't mention Mahrez as a player who could get into our side.

Speaking to a few Leicester fans (I have some family in the area), he's not rated highly. His poor work rate is their biggest gripe (doesn't track back or press) but also there's fears he's been found out. Constantly cutting onto his right foot. Scored one against us last year but was blocked when he tried it last night.
 

TheChosenOne

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very telling that they didn't mention Mahrez as a player who could get into our side.

Speaking to a few Leicester fans (I have some family in the area), he's not rated highly. His poor work rate is their biggest gripe (doesn't track back or press) but also there's fears he's been found out. Constantly cutting onto his right foot. Scored one against us last year but was blocked when he tried it last night.

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worcestersauce

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So we played 15% more games than Chelsea and they currently have about 12% more points than us? I love statistics.
 

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #5539 on: Yesterday at 10:37:56 PM »



Quote from: Die Nullfünfer on Yesterday at 10:23:44 PM
they simply have to. As they can't do what City and Chelsea and Utd do, and just throw money at it. The clock is ticking on this squad.

They are a really good team, and next season they have to win something and really challenge, and not embarrass themselves in Europe again.

I think that they've missed their chance this season. They had the momentum, and Wanyama at £11 million was a great signing, but Sissoko at £30 million, Janssen at £17 million and N'Koudo at £11 million were complete misses, so their chance is gone. Next season Chelsea will be even stronger, Man City will also improve, and we will also be much stronger. Tottenham could still finish 4th, due to the problems at Arsenal and Man Utd.


They really just don't get it at all, do they. They spend half the time slagging us off for being arrogant - which presumably means daring to say we are quite good now and confident/excited about the future - and intersperse it with sincere sounding patronising arrogant muppetry like this.

Okay, Liverpool fans, let me explain this to you: You have finished below us in seven out of the last eight seasons. Yes, we know you won lots a while back, and do acknowledge this when you aren't being patronising cocks. But, you are aware with your constant references to us as being a small club that up until approximately 1993, we had won the same amount trophies as Arsenal and United. Yes, you can quibble about the value of those trophies (though I would point out that we had three European trophies to Arsenal's ZERO, so would you stop sucking their dicks...capisce), yes, Liverpool had a thoroughly exceptional trophy haul (thanks to one era of dominance since replicated by a club, Unitrd, who were pretty much in the same ball-park as us before they did it). Oh, and by the way, yes you had more league titles than us...but the FA Cup was far more prestigious back then...and we had won it more times than anyone, thank you. And, yes, you had four (five times, five times), European Cups, but we had three European trophies and astute observers considered the UEFA Cup, that we had won twice, as often being harder to win than the European Cup...to the point where it was a bit of a truism. And, yes, the United, Arsenal and yourselves continued to win things after this point whereas we, basically, fell off a cliff. But that is the whole point, we FELL OFF A FECKING CLIFF. Our Chairman saw fit to misuse our funds - and at the time we were the most affluent club in England - to the point were we had points deducted, with the threat of automatic relegation, and a huge (for the time) fine. It has been quite a struggle to get back from that - and, again, that is the point.

We have been in a huge slump for this reason (y'see, we always were considered to be one of the Big Five) at just the same time as our rivals for the top spots, our traditional rivals gained access to a huge amount of money via BPL/CL/TV money. We aren't being arrogant, we acknowledge that a gulf opened up and that most of our rivals, for these reasons have comfortably outstripped us for trophies now (though the Goons still have no luck in Europe :woot: ). But we are just aspiring (aspiring, that's all, nothing more) to get back up to that top echelon where we used to be. Wouldn't you do the same? Oh, wait, you do...despite never (NEVER...same as us) winning the Premier League, in its present incarnation, you persist every year, no matter your current reality or where you have finished, no matter how lowly, the season before, in demanding and believing you will have a title challenge!

And so back to present reality. I'm sure most Liverpool fans wouldn't understand why anyone would object to anything said in the quoted post...so let me explain: We have finished above you seven times in the last eight seasons. In that time, you have finished seventh twice, eighth twice and ninth twice. In the same time period, we have finished lower than fifth once...a sixth place finish. We have finished fifth three times, fourth twice, third once and second once. Now, that it is written starkly, can you see why it appears to us to be a bit arrogant that all you ever say is that we will be back to competing for sixth, mid-table, blah, blah, bloody blah! And next season, according to the post above, we might just finish fourth (if we are lucky) because Chelsea, who had no European football this season but will next (along with virtually no injuries), and will just inherently improve, Citeh, who we are just a better team than ATM, will improve, and Liverpool, who managed the mighty task of finishing...er...quite a few points behind us despite having no distraction from European football this season, will inherently just improve (and no doubt have the mythical title challenge). We won't improve...oh no...no chance...because we are just a small club and small clubs never have the temerity to improve, do they?!? Get over yourselves, FFS, you have a bit more money than us but have been no where near us in terms of overall performance on the pitch, as demonstrated by league finishing positions, etc., over the last eight seasons. Your defence is poor, and even assuming you have the money to improve it to the requisite level, I have seen no evidence that your messiah manager actually knows how to make a defence for English football. P.s. your main reason for not thinking United will improve is because you don't like them! Try using logic - they have won one trophy and may win another one, while you have had no European competition and still aren't assured of a place in the top four going into the last game of the season.

So, why should we imagine that Tottenham will improve? Because: We have an exceptional young group of players. Many of them are more than a year, more than two years off being at their peak. They are improving each season just by being a year older. They are improving each season for the previous season's experience. They are improving thanks to growing awareness, thanks to esprit de corps (team spirit), thanks to growing cohesion, thanks to solidifying habit. Our great young manager is learning as he goes. This season he was working on alternative formations and versatility of formation, and we benefited from that by the end of the season. We have suffered from injuries, unlike our title rivals. Next season, hopefully, we will have some seriously good players coming back from injury. Any of Janssen, Enkidu, (Sissoko... :shifty::shifty::shifty: ) will surely be better for this season. We have highly rated young players coming through in Edwards, Onomah, KWP, and CCV - Poch has name-dropped all of them as likely to get more first team minutes next season. And that is before we have even considered buying anyone. Yes, we may lose Walker. Doubt we will lose anyone else (and we will get lots of re-invest able money- and whether he stays or goes, I believe we will be stronger next season (y)

Going into the future we will have a top level training centre, the best (and second biggest) club stadium in England, a top and improving young manager, a brilliant young squad, and an excellent youth set-up (offering the hope that we will allow us to circumvent the fact that other teams at the top have more money than us). And, yes, it is all about money - that was why we were eclipsed for so long, and why the fight back has been so difficult. But with a bigger stadium (and gate receipts) and a better team we hope to have an increase, also, in sponsorship and commercial revenues - so, there really is not reason to believe we are just going to go back to mid-table (which was really a bit of an anomaly, anyway).

So, go ahead, dream away, fantasise away about your inevitable improvement (that you think should have no relation to financial standing or recent performance). Patronise if you must. But FFS stop telling us we are arrogant for aspiring to success, for saying we actually have a bloody good team now or that we are reasonably confident/excited by the future.

Your Sin Searly

SP

p.s. Could one of you explain why you are so contented to eat shite from the oil mafioso, formerly not big club, clubs but just can't bring yourselves to admit that a traditional big club, who has done everything the proper way, has actually been better than you for the best part of a decade? After all, you do pride yourselves on being proper honest knowledgeable footballing folk, don't you. Ta muchly.

[Apologies for long-ness of post to fellow SCers...Live Long and Prosper, it's the Tottenham way (y) ].
 

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They really just don't get it at all, do they. They spend half the time slagging us off for being arrogant - which presumably means daring to say we are quite good now and confident/excited about the future - and intersperse it with sincere sounding patronising arrogant muppetry like this.

Okay, Liverpool fans, let me explain this to you: You have finished below us in seven out of the last eight seasons. Yes, we know you won lots a while back, and do acknowledge this when you aren't being patronising cocks. But, you are aware with your constant references to us as being a small club that up until approximately 1993, we had won the same amount trophies as Arsenal and United. Yes, you can quibble about the value of those trophies (though I would point out that we had three European trophies to Arsenal's ZERO, so would you stop sucking their dicks...capisce), yes, Liverpool had a thoroughly exceptional trophy haul (thanks to one era of dominance since replicated by a club, Unitrd, who were pretty much in the same ball-park as us before they did it). Oh, and by the way, yes you had more league titles than us...but the FA Cup was far more prestigious back then...and we had won it more times than anyone, thank you. And, yes, you had four (five times, five times), European Cups, but we had three European trophies and astute observers considered the UEFA Cup, that we had won twice, as often being harder to win than the European Cup...to the point where it was a bit of a truism. And, yes, the United, Arsenal and yourselves continued to win things after this point whereas we, basically, fell off a cliff. But that is the whole point, we FELL OFF A FECKING CLIFF. Our Chairman saw fit to misuse our funds - and at the time we were the most affluent club in England - to the point were we had points deducted, with the threat of automatic relegation, and a huge (for the time) fine. It has been quite a struggle to get back from that - and, again, that is the point.

We have been in a huge slump for this reason (y'see, we always were considered to be one of the Big Five) at just the same time as our rivals for the top spots, our traditional rivals gained access to a huge amount of money via BPL/CL/TV money. We aren't being arrogant, we acknowledge that a gulf opened up and that most of our rivals, for these reasons have comfortably outstripped us for trophies now (though the Goons still have no luck in Europe :woot: ). But we are just aspiring (aspiring, that's all, nothing more) to get back up to that top echelon where we used to be. Wouldn't you do the same? Oh, wait, you do...despite never (NEVER...same as us) winning the Premier League, in its present incarnation, you persist every year, no matter your current reality or where you have finished, no matter how lowly, the season before, in demanding and believing you will have a title challenge!

And so back to present reality. I'm sure most Liverpool fans wouldn't understand why anyone would object to anything said in the quoted post...so let me explain: We have finished above you seven times in the last eight seasons. In that time, you have finished seventh twice, eighth twice and ninth twice. In the same time period, we have finished lower than fifth once...a sixth place finish. We have finished fifth three times, fourth twice, third once and second once. Now, that it is written starkly, can you see why it appears to us to be a bit arrogant that all you ever say is that we will be back to competing for sixth, mid-table, blah, blah, bloody blah! And next season, according to the post above, we might just finish fourth (if we are lucky) because Chelsea, who had no European football this season but will next (along with virtually no injuries), and will just inherently improve, Citeh, who we are just a better team than ATM, will improve, and Liverpool, who managed the mighty task of finishing...er...quite a few points behind us despite having no distraction from European football this season, will inherently just improve (and no doubt have the mythical title challenge). We won't improve...oh no...no chance...because we are just a small club and small clubs never have the temerity to improve, do they?!? Get over yourselves, FFS, you have a bit more money than us but have been no where near us in terms of overall performance on the pitch, as demonstrated by league finishing positions, etc., over the last eight seasons. Your defence is poor, and even assuming you have the money to improve it to the requisite level, I have seen no evidence that your messiah manager actually knows how to make a defence for English football. P.s. your main reason for not thinking United will improve is because you don't like them! Try using logic - they have won one trophy and may win another one, while you have had no European competition and still aren't assured of a place in the top four going into the last game of the season.

So, why should we imagine that Tottenham will improve? Because: We have an exceptional young group of players. Many of them are more than a year, more than two years off being at their peak. They are improving each season just by being a year older. They are improving each season for the previous season's experience. They are improving thanks to growing awareness, thanks to esprit de corps (team spirit), thanks to growing cohesion, thanks to solidifying habit. Our great young manager is learning as he goes. This season he was working on alternative formations and versatility of formation, and we benefited from that by the end of the season. We have suffered from injuries, unlike our title rivals. Next season, hopefully, we will have some seriously good players coming back from injury. Any of Janssen, Enkidu, (Sissoko... :shifty::shifty::shifty: ) will surely be better for this season. We have highly rated young players coming through in Edwards, Onomah, KWP, and CCV - Poch has name-dropped all of them as likely to get more first team minutes next season. And that is before we have even considered buying anyone. Yes, we may lose Walker. Doubt we will lose anyone else (and we will get lots of re-invest able money- and whether he stays or goes, I believe we will be stronger next season (y)

Going into the future we will have a top level training centre, the best (and second biggest) club stadium in England, a top and improving young manager, a brilliant young squad, and an excellent youth set-up (offering the hope that we will allow us to circumvent the fact that other teams at the top have more money than us). And, yes, it is all about money - that was why we were eclipsed for so long, and why the fight back has been so difficult. But with a bigger stadium (and gate receipts) and a better team we hope to have an increase, also, in sponsorship and commercial revenues - so, there really is not reason to believe we are just going to go back to mid-table (which was really a bit of an anomaly, anyway).

So, go ahead, dream away, fantasise away about your inevitable improvement (that you think should have no relation to financial standing or recent performance). Patronise if you must. But FFS stop telling us we are arrogant for aspiring to success, for saying we actually have a bloody good team now or that we are reasonably confident/excited by the future.

Your Sin Searly

SP

p.s. Could one of you explain why you are so contented to eat shite from the oil mafioso, formerly not big club, clubs but just can't bring yourselves to admit that a traditional big club, who has done everything the proper way, has actually been better than you for the best part of a decade? After all, you do pride yourselves on being proper honest knowledgeable footballing folk, don't you. Ta muchly.

[Apologies for long-ness of post to fellow SCers...Live Long and Prosper, it's the Tottenham way (y) ].

You've never apologized for your lengthy posts before. Why now? Are you mellowing with age?:cautious:

If I see a short post from you, I'd assume that someone has hacked into your account. ;)

Keep it up SP. I've enjoyed your previous posts. (y)
 

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They really just don't get it at all, do they. They spend half the time slagging us off for being arrogant - which presumably means daring to say we are quite good now and confident/excited about the future - and intersperse it with sincere sounding patronising arrogant muppetry like this.

Okay, Liverpool fans, let me explain this to you: You have finished below us in seven out of the last eight seasons. Yes, we know you won lots a while back, and do acknowledge this when you aren't being patronising cocks. But, you are aware with your constant references to us as being a small club that up until approximately 1993, we had won the same amount trophies as Arsenal and United. Yes, you can quibble about the value of those trophies (though I would point out that we had three European trophies to Arsenal's ZERO, so would you stop sucking their dicks...capisce), yes, Liverpool had a thoroughly exceptional trophy haul (thanks to one era of dominance since replicated by a club, Unitrd, who were pretty much in the same ball-park as us before they did it). Oh, and by the way, yes you had more league titles than us...but the FA Cup was far more prestigious back then...and we had won it more times than anyone, thank you. And, yes, you had four (five times, five times), European Cups, but we had three European trophies and astute observers considered the UEFA Cup, that we had won twice, as often being harder to win than the European Cup...to the point where it was a bit of a truism. And, yes, the United, Arsenal and yourselves continued to win things after this point whereas we, basically, fell off a cliff. But that is the whole point, we FELL OFF A FECKING CLIFF. Our Chairman saw fit to misuse our funds - and at the time we were the most affluent club in England - to the point were we had points deducted, with the threat of automatic relegation, and a huge (for the time) fine. It has been quite a struggle to get back from that - and, again, that is the point.

We have been in a huge slump for this reason (y'see, we always were considered to be one of the Big Five) at just the same time as our rivals for the top spots, our traditional rivals gained access to a huge amount of money via BPL/CL/TV money. We aren't being arrogant, we acknowledge that a gulf opened up and that most of our rivals, for these reasons have comfortably outstripped us for trophies now (though the Goons still have no luck in Europe :woot: ). But we are just aspiring (aspiring, that's all, nothing more) to get back up to that top echelon where we used to be. Wouldn't you do the same? Oh, wait, you do...despite never (NEVER...same as us) winning the Premier League, in its present incarnation, you persist every year, no matter your current reality or where you have finished, no matter how lowly, the season before, in demanding and believing you will have a title challenge!

And so back to present reality. I'm sure most Liverpool fans wouldn't understand why anyone would object to anything said in the quoted post...so let me explain: We have finished above you seven times in the last eight seasons. In that time, you have finished seventh twice, eighth twice and ninth twice. In the same time period, we have finished lower than fifth once...a sixth place finish. We have finished fifth three times, fourth twice, third once and second once. Now, that it is written starkly, can you see why it appears to us to be a bit arrogant that all you ever say is that we will be back to competing for sixth, mid-table, blah, blah, bloody blah! And next season, according to the post above, we might just finish fourth (if we are lucky) because Chelsea, who had no European football this season but will next (along with virtually no injuries), and will just inherently improve, Citeh, who we are just a better team than ATM, will improve, and Liverpool, who managed the mighty task of finishing...er...quite a few points behind us despite having no distraction from European football this season, will inherently just improve (and no doubt have the mythical title challenge). We won't improve...oh no...no chance...because we are just a small club and small clubs never have the temerity to improve, do they?!? Get over yourselves, FFS, you have a bit more money than us but have been no where near us in terms of overall performance on the pitch, as demonstrated by league finishing positions, etc., over the last eight seasons. Your defence is poor, and even assuming you have the money to improve it to the requisite level, I have seen no evidence that your messiah manager actually knows how to make a defence for English football. P.s. your main reason for not thinking United will improve is because you don't like them! Try using logic - they have won one trophy and may win another one, while you have had no European competition and still aren't assured of a place in the top four going into the last game of the season.

So, why should we imagine that Tottenham will improve? Because: We have an exceptional young group of players. Many of them are more than a year, more than two years off being at their peak. They are improving each season just by being a year older. They are improving each season for the previous season's experience. They are improving thanks to growing awareness, thanks to esprit de corps (team spirit), thanks to growing cohesion, thanks to solidifying habit. Our great young manager is learning as he goes. This season he was working on alternative formations and versatility of formation, and we benefited from that by the end of the season. We have suffered from injuries, unlike our title rivals. Next season, hopefully, we will have some seriously good players coming back from injury. Any of Janssen, Enkidu, (Sissoko... :shifty::shifty::shifty: ) will surely be better for this season. We have highly rated young players coming through in Edwards, Onomah, KWP, and CCV - Poch has name-dropped all of them as likely to get more first team minutes next season. And that is before we have even considered buying anyone. Yes, we may lose Walker. Doubt we will lose anyone else (and we will get lots of re-invest able money- and whether he stays or goes, I believe we will be stronger next season (y)

Going into the future we will have a top level training centre, the best (and second biggest) club stadium in England, a top and improving young manager, a brilliant young squad, and an excellent youth set-up (offering the hope that we will allow us to circumvent the fact that other teams at the top have more money than us). And, yes, it is all about money - that was why we were eclipsed for so long, and why the fight back has been so difficult. But with a bigger stadium (and gate receipts) and a better team we hope to have an increase, also, in sponsorship and commercial revenues - so, there really is not reason to believe we are just going to go back to mid-table (which was really a bit of an anomaly, anyway).

So, go ahead, dream away, fantasise away about your inevitable improvement (that you think should have no relation to financial standing or recent performance). Patronise if you must. But FFS stop telling us we are arrogant for aspiring to success, for saying we actually have a bloody good team now or that we are reasonably confident/excited by the future.

Your Sin Searly

SP

p.s. Could one of you explain why you are so contented to eat shite from the oil mafioso, formerly not big club, clubs but just can't bring yourselves to admit that a traditional big club, who has done everything the proper way, has actually been better than you for the best part of a decade? After all, you do pride yourselves on being proper honest knowledgeable footballing folk, don't you. Ta muchly.

[Apologies for long-ness of post to fellow SCers...Live Long and Prosper, it's the Tottenham way (y) ].

Amazing work, you should put that out as a blog 'Dear Liverpool fans'

My response to that guy would simply have been, isn't that exactly what you said last summer? How'd that work out for ya??

Yes pundits were saying the same too, but I think a lot more will give us a chance next season despite the transfer madness that no doubt ensues.

This year is hardly a missed opportunity, it would have taken the 2nd highest finish in PL history to stop Chelsea this season. That alone says they won't easily beat this years tally next year. Last year maybe was one , but thats the problem with organic growth, it can't be fast-tracked.

It's 'pool fans like this that are why I won't shed a tear if Arsenal overtake them (although seeing europa at the Emirates would be better). Worry about sealing 4th before spouting how you are gonna easily finish higher than us next season.

To be fair I have a formerly typical scouse fan at work who has finally realised we are the model they should aspire to, and also that they are behind us currently. Rare one obviously!
 
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