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Lufti

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Is it really that ridiculous? Modric will be 31 at the beginning of next season, and only has two years left on his contract at Real

He'd potentially get some ridiculous 5 year contract at the spammers and get to play for a manager that he knows well

A long shot maybe, but not deluded in my opinion


That said, I'd be gutted if it did happen

You're talking about one of the best, if not THE best midfielder in the world going to West Ham. Yes, it's ridiculous.
 

jonathanhotspur

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Is it really that ridiculous? Modric will be 31 at the beginning of next season, and only has two years left on his contract at Real

He'd potentially get some ridiculous 5 year contract at the spammers and get to play for a manager that he knows well

A long shot maybe, but not deluded in my opinion


That said, I'd be gutted if it did happen
Luka Modric had a £387m buy-out clause installed in his contract when he signed for Real Madrid from Tottenham in 2012, according to documents published by Football Leaks.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-after-transfer-from-tottenham-to-real-madrid
 

hugrr

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Hungerford's pretty nice.

It did have that one massacre in 1987, but other than that it's pretty sweet.
 

YidNick

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United fans on the possibility of signing Kane:

Delaney is an idiot, but i would take Harry. But without CL football and Spurs doing well, i have my doubts. Hope we dont spend the whole summer chasing him.

I think I'd prefer Lukaku
Rom is the most likely and attainable.

£100m. Not happening

Kane is an English PL-proven goalscorer and in his early 20s. No-brainer for me.
No brainer for sure. But will he join us without CL football? I guess in case of this transfer it's more the question if we can, not should, get him
Totally agree, but he'd have to leave Champions League football at a club on the up that he seems to love. Decision's a no-brainer for him too.

Lukaku is a more realistic option.

Kane is definitely a good potential acquisition but he's pricey and we have very promising young strikers of our own.

Do not want griezmann, Kane would be the perfect fit for Jose and I think would hit the ground running for us, especially as he bagged 40 goals already in post two prem campaigns

No chance we'll get him. Spurs are better than us and in the Champions League next season. Last summer was our best chance.

We should be able to get Kane, but maybe not this summer - infact, definitely not this summer because Tottenham will be riding the crest of a wave, and giving it large because the were in the oh so close 'title race', only to be denied by Leicester. The perfect time to target him would be 2017 or 2018 - by then the Tottenham bubble would have burst in all likelihood (Pochettino has been repeatedly linked with Real Madrid - once he goes, they're unlikely to recruit a manager of similar class, especially when the top teams are strengthened), and hopefully - Mourinho would have re-established United as a top club. The new broadcasting deal will make it harder for us to extract marquee English players from top-ish clubs, but if the projected on field success (hypothetical, of course) makes us an enticing destination once more (particularly for British players) - we could then roll out the carpets for the likes of Kane with some gumption.

As things stand, we have to sort out a lot of things in the coming transfer window (and that takes priority rather than chasing Kane), and engaging in protracted negotiations/ mud slinging tactics with Levy would be unwise because he'll either tell us to **** off, or string us along for the whole summer in a manner not too dissimilar to the way wasted Madrid's time last time around for De Gea. Sort the midfield and defense, get some pieces for the attack, and then add some cherries on top - in the form of Kane or Dybala or Griezmann (also unlikely to move this summer) or *insert muppet target - what have you. Right now, transfers of that magnitude might be a season too soon, and I have no confidence in our ability to pull 'em off to be honest. And it'll probably take a near world record deal to sign Kane too - given that Sterling was signed for £49 million, and Kane is a more proven player on a semi-lucrative long term contract.

That said, maybe Mourinho can launch the pre-emptive charm offensive starting this summer, and legally tap him up - like he did with certain players in the past (or like Madrid did with Bale), with one eye on his second season at United - when he would (presumably) launch the bid. Or, this is all guff created the media to generate clicks - can't discount that possibility either.

We'd have to properly bin Rooney if he wants Kane. I don't think they'd work together at all and even if they did, I don't want to watch another pair of slugs as the #10 and #9.

May as well go after Neymar and Messi, similar likelihood of obtaining the target. He's loving it at Spurs, they are better than us and can afford to keep him.
 

Hazardousman

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United fans are deluded, there is no guarantee Jose will even do well with them, he failed in his last stint at Chelsea and Kane would never want to join a club with a manager that only tends to stay with clubs for two seasons.

That's even before we mention the fact that currently we are much better than them, we have a promising future, a team full of young excellent players and a manager who wants to stay and build something here, world class training centre and a football ground that will be one of, if not, the best in Europe.

They will also be without champions league football.

What do United offer Kane that we don't? Other than higher wages? I will tell you what, nothing.
 

DaSpurs

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Oh and if West Ham sign Modric I'm officially done with football.

That would do me done with the Prem at least. That a lowly neighborhood side such as them were capable of signing Payet is one thing, but them signing Modric would be full manifest of just how wretched, disproportionate, and unholy this new influx of TV money has made the pull of the EPL.
 

Gb160

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That would do me done with the Prem at least. That a lowly neighborhood side such as them were capable of signing Payet is one thing, but them signing Modric would be full manifest of just how wretched, disproportionate, and unholy this new influx of TV money has made the pull of the EPL.
Bit of a weird opinion to me.
It's almost like you'd rather how the leagues been for the last decade or so, where only one of 4 clubs could afford such a player, compared to now where one of possibly 8/9 clubs could.
Surely this just closes the gap for us and the clubs with much higher revenue, as this TV money has meant we haven't got to roll over when one of these clubs fancies cherry picking our best players.

Besides that what league are you gonna watch?...the German/Spanish leagues where one of 2/3 teams can realistically win the title?
 

Hoops

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I enjoyed this thread on Red Cafe "First world united problems"

Worrying if Juan Sebastian Veron will settle into our midfield
Evra not stopping every cross the lazy twat
Why has Ronaldo scored only one hattrick so far?
Fitting tevez rooney ronaldo and berbatov in the same 11.
Winning the league by 18 points and not having a decent goalie. (1999-2000).
Not beating teams comprehensively and losing the league on goal difference. Fergie should retire.
Lost to Barca in another CL final
can't risk playing Pogba against Blackburn Rovers
Vidic are Evra look like terrible signings, no value in the transfer market
Van Nistelrooy can't score goals outside the fecking box
Only finishing 2nd in the group stages of the Champions League
Won about 60% of all Premier League trophies available. If this was school, United would be a pretty average student.
"Yeah I know Ronaldo's just scored 42 goals and we've won the league and CL double, but I preferred how we played last season."
 

DaSpurs

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Bit of a weird opinion to me.
It's almost like you'd rather how the leagues been for the last decade or so, where only one of 4 clubs could afford such a player, compared to now where one of possibly 8/9 clubs could.
Surely this just closes the gap for us and the clubs with much higher revenue, as this TV money has meant we haven't got to roll over when one of these clubs fancies cherry picking our best players.

Besides that what league are you gonna watch?...the German/Spanish leagues where one of 2/3 teams can realistically win the title?

Yeah actually, I quite like the Bundesliga. The style of football is extremely entertaining and the atmospheres are great, and I deem those things as more valuable components of footballing entertainment than who exactly will win the title.

Tbh, no I don't really like how overbearing the wealth is becoming in the EPL. Sure, it's more entertaining if you're only a fan of the EPL, but the difference it's already making and will continue to make on the other leagues is quite stunning. The consequent allure then is great for the EPL, but not for the rest of football on the continent. I think we're only just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg of impact this new TV money will hold.

As for the top four winning it all in the Prem, I think it's quite clear that we set the foundations of our current success well before the TV deals were even on the horizon. We placed immense focus on strong youth development a decade ago, and are only just now reaping the benefits of that. Our success has been bred from careful scrutiny and planning, not TV money splurging. If anything, this money provides more potential for clubs such as West Ham, Southampton, and Everton to better jostle with us for the elite positions rather than it buoys us, especially while we'll be trying to pay off the new stadium.
 

Lighty64

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Yeah actually, I quite like the Bundesliga. The style of football is extremely entertaining and the atmospheres are great, and I deem those things as more valuable components of footballing entertainment than who exactly will win the title.

Tbh, no I don't really like how overbearing the wealth is becoming in the EPL. Sure, it's more entertaining if you're only a fan of the EPL, but the difference it's already making and will continue to make on the other leagues is quite stunning. The consequent allure then is great for the EPL, but not for the rest of football on the continent. I think we're only just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg of impact this new TV money will hold.

As for the top four winning it all in the Prem, I think it's quite clear that we set the foundations of our current success well before the TV deals were even on the horizon. We placed immense focus on strong youth development a decade ago, and are only just now reaping the benefits of that. Our success has been bred from careful scrutiny and planning, not TV money splurging. If anything, this money provides more potential for clubs such as West Ham, Southampton, and Everton to better jostle with us for the elite positions rather than it buoys us, especially while we'll be trying to pay off the new stadium.

if they TV money makes this league more competitive and not "oh well they will finish top 4, before a ball is kicked" is surely better? it would be great if this league is competitive instead of predictable
 

DaSpurs

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if they TV money makes this league more competitive and not "oh well they will finish top 4, before a ball is kicked" is surely better? it would be great if this league is competitive instead of predictable

From a purely EPL-fan standpoint, yes that is true. But for me as a Spurs fan and a fan of other leagues, I don't like what the future holds. We cleverly fought for our position among the elite, and now it seems as if several other clubs have been simply handed a much better opportunity to fight for those positions, and I can't help but resent that a bit.

West Ham would never have been able to attract a player like Payet a few seasons ago. Now, with a government handing them a stadium and broadcasters handing them TV money, their financial pull is now suddenly more than tenfold what it was so recently ago. Personally, I find that rather frustrating after watching our club fight via trial-and-error for a decade to cleverly find a way into the elite positions within the financial means.
 

SugarRay

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From a purely EPL-fan standpoint, yes that is true. But for me as a Spurs fan and a fan of other leagues, I don't like what the future holds. We cleverly fought for our position among the elite, and now it seems as if several other clubs have been simply handed a much better opportunity to fight for those positions, and I can't help but resent that a bit.

West Ham would never have been able to attract a player like Payet a few seasons ago. Now, with a government handing them a stadium and broadcasters handing them TV money, their financial pull is now suddenly more than tenfold what it was so recently ago. Personally, I find that rather frustrating after watching our club fight via trial-and-error for a decade to cleverly find a way into the elite positions within the financial means.

Payet was turned down by Everton and Newcastle the season before he joined West Ham. West Ham buying him didn't really rip up many trees. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and hats off to them for taking a chance on him that others weren't willing to do.
It seems like he's a player a lot of clubs have looked at over the years but decided not to take the risk. Egg is on plenty of faces right now!
Circumstances dictated he ended up at West Ham, nobody bigger willing to take a chance on him, Marseille needing to sell a few, his advanced age etc
He carries on next season like he has been this term and even though he will be 30, it will be his last at West Ham I suspect.
 

DaSpurs

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Payet was turned down by Everton and Newcastle the season before he joined West Ham. West Ham buying him didn't really rip up many trees. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and hats off to them for taking a chance on him that others weren't willing to do.
It seems like he's a player a lot of clubs have looked at over the years but decided not to take the risk. Egg is on plenty of faces right now!
Circumstances dictated he ended up at West Ham, nobody bigger willing to take a chance on him, Marseille needing to sell a few, his advanced age etc
He carries on next season like he has been this term and even though he will be 30, it will be his last at West Ham I suspect.

Both Everton and Newcastle were busy splunking big money on several other targets that summer, so I don't think that's necessarily a slight on Payet. Even so, a good French player moving from Marseille to West Ham is still a surprising move by their historical standards. Quite a few people were surprised by the move at the time, and for good reason. Payet moving to West Ham and Shaqiri moving to Stoke are two moves which would never have happened without the influx of TV money into the Prem.
 

eViL

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Both Everton and Newcastle were busy splunking big money on several other targets that summer, so I don't think that's necessarily a slight on Payet. Even so, a good French player moving from Marseille to West Ham is still a surprising move by their historical standards. Quite a few people were surprised by the move at the time, and for good reason. Payet moving to West Ham and Shaqiri moving to Stoke are two moves which would never have happened without the influx of TV money into the Prem.

Hughes has quite a pull on European players thanks to his time at Barca.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Bournemouth fan:

after watching spurs twice and leicester twice against AFCB I know which team I think deserves the title, and that team does not include Vardy
 
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