What`s wrong with our attack?

[davidmatzdorf]

Would be nice to get a few tap ins. Few of the (many) chances we are getting are straightforward.

I proposed a reason why this, too, might be the case:

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/ind...ng-with-our-attack.122043/page-4#post-4820584

 

[ziggy]

i wish we'd put more crosses or balls across the box for Kane to run onto...

Agree we seem to just hoof it up to him a lot of the time

 

[nailsy]

I just read through that entire thread.

I'm not sure I can give a fair and accurate assessment of our attacking woes but I do know that many of you need to reread posts before hitting 'send reply' because there was some shocking grammar and generally bad English on display. It's not hard to put an apostrophe where it's supposed to be and it makes for a much more readable read when you get it right.

I know many people will be all 'why does that matter!? Its a fuckin Spurs thread about how shit we are at finnishing not a fuckin English language testt!'...

but those people are stupid and you shouldn't listen to them.

ps. I blame Kane, ABV, Jedas and Junas.

Should the bit in bold be on a separate line? It really doesn't read very well as a separate sentence.

 

[ultimateloner]

We play with 1 striker up front and none of our AMs like getting on the end of things; they are all architects rather than finishers.
I think we have addressed this the best we could by playing Ali/Mason because both want to get into the box.

If Kane was more clinical (mental aspect) we would have scored more; but I don't think a back-up striker would have made much difference if we persisted with 1 up front. In the end of the day you play your best player for a position and all the realistic options proposed (Berahino/Austin) aren't as good as Kane pound for pound. They would not have started ahead of him. Take Berahino; perhaps a faster player but doesn't give the same level of hold-up play, high-press, aerial play and tracking back. Austin is inferior in every aspect.

Every team has a similar issue including the ones that are better than us: Chelsea/Arsenal even Man Utd.
The primary reason Man City is a cut above in offense is because they have 2 viable options up front and 2 AMs who like to get into the box. No other team has that.

 

[homer hotspur]

We play with 1 striker up front and none of our AMs like getting on the end of things; they are all architects rather than finishers.
I think we have addressed this the best we could by playing Ali/Mason because both want to get into the box.

If Kane was more clinical (mental aspect) we would have scored more; but I don't think a back-up striker would have made much difference if we persisted with 1 up front. In the end of the day you play your best player for a position and all the realistic options proposed (Berahino/Austin) aren't as good as Kane pound for pound. They would not have started ahead of him. Take Berahino; perhaps a faster player but doesn't give the same level of hold-up play, high-press, aerial play and tracking back. Austin is inferior in every aspect.

Every team has a similar issue including the ones that are better than us: Chelsea/Arsenal even Man Utd.
The primary reason Man City is a cut above in offense is because they have 2 viable options up front and 2 AMs who like to get into the box. No other team has that.

You make some fair points ,but a back up striker would also a) take the pressue of Kane by allowing him to be subbed off earlier or by starting certain games such as Europa League and b) cover for injury which, thank goodness, hasn't happened yet. I would say c) suspensions, but Harry does not seem the type to get enough yellows!

 

[ultimateloner]

You make some fair points ,but a back up striker would also a) take the pressue of Kane by allowing him to be subbed off earlier or by starting certain games such as Europa League and b) cover for injury which, thank goodness, hasn't happened yet. I would say c) suspensions, but Harry does not seem the type to get enough yellows!

I don't think Kane is suffering from fatigue. I don't think he is losing 50/50s and/or running less. The only noticeable difference for me is his finishing; but even last season at least 4/5 of his goals were luck-based. We are less than 10 games in and we are playing well as a team; i think it's too soon to get worried.

I think your point a and b may kick in mid-season onwards; but by that time you need someone who can score regularly. If there is someone like that who is cheap of course we should go for it; but chances are any proven player at Europa/PL level is going to want to start and wont be happy playing second fiddle to Kane. Besides, if we lose a quarter final in Europa because of this signing fans will moan again.

Its a results-driven business. Until we start losing league positions i don't see viable grounds to complain. We have more positives than negatives as a team...now is a moment to enjoy.

 

[michaelden]

Nudger it is then...

Nazza I think

 

[degoose]

Sorry you are totally wrong............. 2 offside goals, one corner and one direct free kick.. It was a very good performance but with a huge amount of luck.. We also need to make and finish chances from open play in my view..

that's football for you. nearly every match has a lucky deflection ,a strange ref decision or something random. Quality is also needed though to pounce or create the luck to score. It's thing margins in all premier league matches these days.

 

[TheSpillage]

Should the bit in bold be on a separate line? It really doesn't read very well as a separate sentence.

It was a stylistic device to imply a larger gap and to highlight the importance of the sentence. It reads beautifully. I've got a degree in English language so I must be right.

 

[nicdic]

For those who are still moaning about the 1 striker thing, there is actually a positive way to read this.

Last season Poch was clearly given at least one player he didn't really want after missing out on a real target. This season we weren't able to get the player we wanted in Berahino, and we stuck. We're not left with a player to shift at the end of this season because the manager doesn't actually really like him, and he's probably in a better position to get the player he wants in January or next summer.

 

[robbiedee]

I just read through that entire thread.

I'm not sure I can give a fair and accurate assessment of our attacking woes but I do know that many of you need to reread posts before hitting 'send reply' because there was some shocking grammar and generally bad English on display. It's not hard to put an apostrophe where it's supposed to be and it makes for a much more readable read when you get it right.

I know many people will be all 'why does that matter!? Its a fuckin Spurs thread about how shit we are at finnishing not a fuckin English language testt!'...

but those people are stupid and you shouldn't listen to them.

ps. I blame Kane, ABV, Jedas and Junas.

How do you spell finishing???

 

[TheSpillage]

How do you spell finishing???

I spell it incorrectly on purpose as part of my hilarious joke.

 

[Gassin's finest]

This has been the case since the AVB era. Bale, and then Harry last season, papered over this problem in recent seasons.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

I think when Son is in the team and N'Jie is ready I think a lot of these issues will be resolved. His finishing was a bit off against Liverpool, but N'Jie was clearly ready to shoot and seemed to have a desire and ability to take early, one-touch shots and they were pretty accurate in so far as they went pretty close at some difficult angles.

Son has already shown what a goal-threat he is, so i'm confident that in the near future, we will score a lot more once N'Jie is settled and coming on and Son is back fit and playing every game.

 

[michaelden]

Poch has his reasons for calling them clear cut chances but I don't think any of them were that great .

There wasn't much for Kane to aim at from the flanks after the keeper narrowed the angles so well . These were percentage shots and I don't think their failure to go in had anything to do with the strikers form .

Clinton's long range dipping shot which didn't dip enough was another example of desperation .

Loved Eriksen's second half through ball which Kane could have done better with . Danny Murphy and Iniesta would have been proud of that one .

My sister and her family live up in Leicestershire so I have a soft spot for The Foxes .

Jamie Vardy could have had more than his two yesterday but his aggression and movement (the amount of it and speed of it rather than it's subtlety) were incredible . Southampton were unable to mark him .

The last German called Jurgen K to start his EPL career at The Lane didn't do so badly in this league . Klop will turn Liverpool into a tough unit .

nope, is he'd split the defenders with a through ball Lamela was running on at the back post and it'd have been an easier shot. it wasn't desperation, it was poor decision making

 

[whitesocks]

I don't think we should judge the attack too harshly on the liverpool game.
Liverpool out-pressed us so we could not build from the back.
Lloris was punting the ball and just returning possession really, as we do not have a traditional no 9 to fight for this type of ball .
But it was all part of the counter-attack plan, and against a side with the spotlight on them, that is fair enough.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

We've been making clear-cut chances in every match - including against Liverpool. It's lack of quality(and confidence in Kane's case) which mean we're not capitalising on them. I am not worried though. Kane will find his mojo again soon and with the additions of the pacy Njie/Son our attack is looking a lot better than the team who finished 5th last season.

 

[double0]

Our attacking play is fine but we're not efficient enough imo that's the worrying thing, we need to many chances to score.

 

[homer hotspur]

I don't think Kane is suffering from fatigue. I don't think he is losing 50/50s and/or running less. The only noticeable difference for me is his finishing; but even last season at least 4/5 of his goals were luck-based. We are less than 10 games in and we are playing well as a team; i think it's too soon to get worried.

I think your point a and b may kick in mid-season onwards; but by that time you need someone who can score regularly. If there is someone like that who is cheap of course we should go for it; but chances are any proven player at Europa/PL level is going to want to start and wont be happy playing second fiddle to Kane. Besides, if we lose a quarter final in Europa because of this signing fans will moan again.

Its a results-driven business. Until we start losing league positions i don't see viable grounds to complain. We have more positives than negatives as a team...now is a moment to enjoy.

Again, good points, but we are still at the mercy of point b) at any given point . In fact it could have happened the day after the transfer window closed. There are still 10 weeks to the transfer window opens( and probably 14 weeks before we conclude a deal) and that's a lot of matches. Look at the striker injuries Liverpool have suffered recently and they have just about been able to cover them with all the back up available to them.

 

[Misfit]

We need more depth at striker I think. Sounds sarcastic when I say it but goals win you games. If not an out and out striker then attacking players with an ability to finish more than the ability to create for others.