What to do with Adebayor

[Everlasting Seconds]

Don't know why people are bitching about our transfer committee in regards to Adebayor. He was on loan and had just scored 18 goals for us and looked to be a striker that could help fill in a crucial spot for us in which we were shit at the time and such a contract would've been the only way to tempt him here and had a proven record of scoring goals,

I think very harsh to blame the committee on this one.

Bah, I said it back then. Hiring AVB & signing Ade on a perm is a major risk. If an amateur like me (and many with me) spotted it, why shouldn't people who are on a transfer committee meet higher expectations? I also recommended selling him due to signing Pochettino. It's not because I'm so bloody brilliant (well... I mean...) but because Adebayor is shamefully easy to predict.

 

[225]

I agreed initially until I remembered AVB was manager, they should of just taken in to account that he may not get on with AVB and AVB may not want him either

They did appear to get on in his first season, despite his less than amazing form. I don't know what happened in the following summer - less said, the better.

 

[Borks]

Sadly Borks, Ade never lived up to his potential apart from one season under 'Árry. Soldado has also been a huge disappointment but comes across as a decent guy, something that Ade does not.

There's loads of decent blokes in the world but I wouldn't want the majority of those in a Spurs shirt. Soldado offers absolutely nothing; he doesn't score, he has very few assists and he barely even touches the ball when he's brought on as a sub, so why would you play him over Adebayor who is a proven goalscorer not only at Spurs, but in the PL with Arsenal/City and at Madrid?

 

[guate]

Actually Borks if the choice was mine I'd get rid of both Soldado and Ade, preferring to see someone in like that Leicester lad whose never say die attitude has thoroughly impressed me.

 

[Borks]

Actually Borks if the choice was mine I'd get rid of both Soldado and Ade, preferring to see someone in like that Leicester lad whose never say die attitude has thoroughly impressed me.

That's fair enough and I'm sure many would agree but in the season just gone I couldn't fathom why people were wanting Soldado to play over Ade given what I said before.

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

Or, maybe a player plays better when he's fully fit, finds his form and has the support of the fans?

The real problem (as I see it) is that he has never shown the level of interest or commitment (for want of a better word) that fans demand. He was always ambling around the pitch, he never seemed to show any enthusiasm, he wasn't a player that appears to give 100% and it seems he just showed up to play when he felt like it.

When he fucked up he always had that goofy grin on his face as if to say "oh well, who cares?" and who can forget his wonderful penalty-taking ability? Soldado at least appears to want to be in the game and looks like he is making an effort as opposed to Ade who at times could have been replaced by a traffic cone.

Shit like that is hard for fans to forgive, especially considering what he is getting paid.

 

[Borks]

The real problem (as I see it) is that he has never shown the level of interest or commitment (for want of a better word) that fans demand. He was always ambling around the pitch, he never seemed to show any enthusiasm, he wasn't a player that appears to give 100% and it seems he just showed up to play when he felt like it.

When he fucked up he always had that goofy grin on his face as if to say "oh well, who cares?" and who can forget his wonderful penalty-taking ability? Soldado at least appears to want to be in the game and looks like he is making an effort as opposed to Ade who at times could have been replaced by a traffic cone.

Shit like that is hard for fans to forgive, especially considering what he is getting paid.

Oh come on, enough with the bias.

"He is always ambling around the pitch" - That's a load of bollocks, Ade chases the ball down plenty and he even gets criticism on here for wasting energy chasing down lost causes when the ball is with the back four. Look at distance covered and you will see he doesn't amble round the pitch or lack enthusiasm.

Whether he gives 100% or not is purely your opinion but let me ask you; would you prefer me giving 100% on the pitch and contributing fuck all or a much better player at 80% scoring goals? You cannot deny the fact that he has scored plenty at Spurs.

Who cares if he has a goofy grin? Crouch did the same. When I was having golf lessons during my youth I always taught to look up at the sky after a bad shot, keep your head held high and to smile, make a stupid face or whatever. People deal with disappointment in different ways, next you'll be telling me he's a bad player because you don't like the way he cuts his toenails.

Wonderful penalty taking ability? So he missed one penalty, wow big fucking woop. Remember Soldado's pen vs City? Pathetic. It's easy to tailor an argument but seemingly easier to leave out certain facts.

I assume from your comment about willingness to be in the game you're a big fan of Holtby? There's a reason he's playing at a nearly relegated German team; he isn't good enough to play for Spurs. Fans love a trier but we also love winning. Give me 11 Berbatov's who win the league over 11 Soldado's who get relegated any day of the week. There is such a big disparity in goal scoring records between Ade and Soldado to even compare to two (or try and justify Soldado over Ade) is laughable, it really is. I don't have the scoring records to hand, but Ade is probably 1 in 3 from open play while the other is probably 1 in 20. Soldado's a nice guy, we get it. Soldado tries hard, we get it, but he does NOTHING. Zilch. Everton at home in December was his last contribution wasn't it (despite coming on a fair bit during the season as a sub).

I have no issue with people liking Soldado more than Ade, I can understand why fans would be that way, but to selectively pull facts out of the air is just stupid and pointless. Don't use a forum if you can't be objective.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

I simply cannot believe that only 12% of people in this poll would actually want to try to motivate & improve him

Bonkers. Absoluteky bloody bonkers

 

[guate]

Geyzer, I'm assuming you believe there should be more, which if that is the case all credit to you. However I think you'll find over the time he's been at W.H.L. the majority of fans, myself included, have simply given up on him and would rather he move on and stop being a parasite living off the club we all love.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Geyzer, I'm assuming you believe there should be more, which if that is the case all credit to you. However I think you'll find over the time he's been at W.H.L. the majority of fans, myself included, have simply given up on him and would rather he move on and stop being a parasite living off the club we all love.

Yeah so I see.

To put it another way, 88% of Spurs fans (using a significant segment) would NOT LIKE TO TRY TO MOTIVATE & IMPROVE him.

Bonkers

 

[CrazyHeart]

Zenit might take him? Oh shit... I forgot...

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

Oh come on, enough with the bias.

"He is always ambling around the pitch" - That's a load of bollocks, Ade chases the ball down plenty and he even gets criticism on here for wasting energy chasing down lost causes when the ball is with the back four. Look at distance covered and you will see he doesn't amble round the pitch or lack enthusiasm.

Whether he gives 100% or not is purely your opinion but let me ask you; would you prefer me giving 100% on the pitch and contributing fuck all or a much better player at 80% scoring goals? You cannot deny the fact that he has scored plenty at Spurs.

Who cares if he has a goofy grin? Crouch did the same. When I was having golf lessons during my youth I always taught to look up at the sky after a bad shot, keep your head held high and to smile, make a stupid face or whatever. People deal with disappointment in different ways, next you'll be telling me he's a bad player because you don't like the way he cuts his toenails.

Wonderful penalty taking ability? So he missed one penalty, wow big fucking woop. Remember Soldado's pen vs City? Pathetic. It's easy to tailor an argument but seemingly easier to leave out certain facts.

I assume from your comment about willingness to be in the game you're a big fan of Holtby? There's a reason he's playing at a nearly relegated German team; he isn't good enough to play for Spurs. Fans love a trier but we also love winning. Give me 11 Berbatov's who win the league over 11 Soldado's who get relegated any day of the week. There is such a big disparity in goal scoring records between Ade and Soldado to even compare to two (or try and justify Soldado over Ade) is laughable, it really is. I don't have the scoring records to hand, but Ade is probably 1 in 3 from open play while the other is probably 1 in 20. Soldado's a nice guy, we get it. Soldado tries hard, we get it, but he does NOTHING. Zilch. Everton at home in December was his last contribution wasn't it (despite coming on a fair bit during the season as a sub).

I have no issue with people liking Soldado more than Ade, I can understand why fans would be that way, but to selectively pull facts out of the air is just stupid and pointless. Don't use a forum if you can't be objective.

In case you missed it that's the whole fucking point of a forum. People are allowed to post differing views of the same thing, because y'know, we all have different opinions. And of course that's why I said at the very beginning AS I SEE IT (I bolded it because apparently you missed it the first time around) so they are not 'facts' as you put it, only things as I see them.

Yes I think the majority of the time he ambled around the pitch
Big fan of Holtby? No not particularly but at least he showed some enthusiasm
"Fans love a trier". Yep, 100% agreement, but that's why Adebayor gets so much stick
No I don't like Soldado more, but I do think he is more of a team player
Neither one of them is capable of turning games around except for the odd occasion - and even a blind squirrel finds some nuts every now and then. Both of them should be shopped around right now. Adebayor to the USA and Soldado back to Europe.

 

[Mustard]

3 fan boys. Speaking up for the teat.

The rest of the forum....

Says it all really.

And actually that's probably quite an accurate figure/percentage of the 35 odd thousand that attend the games at WHL.

Who says the internet is biased.....

 

[Norwegian Spurs fan]

 

[mpickard2087]

Reading this last page is interesting because I agree with some of the 'minority' in some of what they say. My issue with Soldado 'fans' is always the hard work myth. Out of all the statements I disagree with on here, that one I disagree with the most quite frankly. I could point out countless games such as Swansea, where he was absolutely disgraceful and was hauled off after breaking into a jog about twice in the hour he was on the pitch. Adebayor isn't a trier, Soldado is as bad as him, and both should be lumped in the same category. One though goes about things with a smile on his face and is a canny PR guy filling his Instagram with Spurs-related stuff and so people develop massive blind spots towards him.

 

[Flashspur]

it To be hones i think they both are shit at the moment. I dont think they are bad players. In fact they were once good players. It just hasnt worked out and that is obvious to anyone with a brain FFS.

Soldado has not performed in this league and probably will not. He is clealry unsuited for it and we have a far superior option now in Kane. Ade has serious personal issues and looks more out of touch with bloody reality every day. So I think the obvious solution is to get rid of the two, quick smart.

I am not into loss aversion and I am sure those of you who understand behavioral finance would expect that Levy isnt that way inclined either. He is a businessman and he must have his people working furiously day and night to shift these two fucking liabilities.

Sentiment should not come into it and some of the ridiculous comments on here about resurrecting these two losers are laughable. They've had a go, it hasnt worked out, piss 'em off and get some support that can help Harry put balls into the net. At the moment we have a Spanish striker that looks like Torres in his horrible last days at Chelsea and a clown who spends most of his time maintaining a carnival barrow as light entertainment on the sidelines.

 

[Khilari]

Bah, I said it back then. Hiring AVB & signing Ade on a perm is a major risk. If an amateur like me (and many with me) spotted it, why shouldn't people who are on a transfer committee meet higher expectations? I also recommended selling him due to signing Pochettino. It's not because I'm so bloody brilliant (well... I mean...) but because Adebayor is shamefully easy to predict.

Because it's easy to criticise anything in retrospect. But as an amateur at the time, you made your judgement based on a number of assumptions, the main one being that you had never seen him in training, spoken to him about the possibility of a permanent transfer nor had you any knowledge of the deal (including the Man City contribution to his salary). Had you known all this at the time, perhaps you would not have seen it as much of a risk.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Because it's easy to criticise anything in retrospect. But as an amateur at the time, you made your judgement based on a number of assumptions, the main one being that you had never seen him in training, spoken to him about the possibility of a permanent transfer nor had you any knowledge of the deal (including the Man City contribution to his salary). Had you known all this at the time, perhaps you would not have seen it as much of a risk.

But I wasn't exactly not stating anything in retrospect. I was recalling having criticised something in – ehrm – what's the opposite of retrospect? Futurospect? And I assume those who signed him made their judgement based on assumptions too. Assuming he had changed, turned over a new leaf, had matured, could go with more types of managers, would like AVB, IDK.
Bottom line is – I was right. Not in hindsight, but there and then.

 

[JerryGarcia]

I like both Ade and Soldado but can't wait for the two of them to leave now so the constant back and forth between the two sets of extremist fans can come to an end. No doubt Ade has done more for the club with his goals, I really hope that he finds a club where he can be the main man and settle down his personal life.

 

[SteveH]

He would make a cool lampstand