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spurmin

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Feb 8, 2005
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I cannot possibly endorse this view enough. What absolute fucking drivel we get subjected to from the first whistle to the last. Useless trivia. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. SHUT THE FUCK UP and commentate on the game and nothing else, like they used to do.
When I used to go to matches. I was surrounded by commentators. Probably guilty of it myself.
Watching now on TV I often turn the sound off and just watch. I don’t want to know what would have happened if so and so passed it to so and so. Or that someone was lucky not to be carded.
Andy Hinchcliffe is awful for it as a co commentator.
 

PLTuck

Eternal Optimist
Aug 22, 2006
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"Mbappe is unhappy at PSG and wants a Jan transfer, after signing a new deal 5 months ago." according to Romano

Cry more ?
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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The match referee should be the final arbiter and only calls on VAR assistance when he needs it.

Why have a VAR official dedicated to each game? The VAR official doesn’t need to watch the whole game unless you want two referees which brings in two opinions, and inconsistencies. So just have 2 or 3 guys, maybe not even current referees, at Stockley Park covering all the games being played, who can be called on to assist the referee when the referee asks for it.

Inconsistencies arise when more than one person is making decisions. The more ‘decision makers’ there are, the greater the number of inconsistencies (opinions).
The entire purpose of var is to pick up stuff that the ref misses. If he misses something he's not going to know he needs to check it.
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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When I used to go to matches. I was surrounded by commentators. Probably guilty of it myself.
Watching now on TV I often turn the sound off and just watch. I don’t want to know what would have happened if so and so passed it to so and so. Or that someone was lucky not to be carded.
Andy Hinchcliffe is awful for it as a co commentator.

I was watching a game the other day and the match commentator told everyone a certain players father used to play for another team, and he scored a goal against todays opponents in the 34th minute and they lost by 2-1 back in 1994.

It was exactly at that point the sound went off and I was able to watch in peace without feeling the need to find that commentator and murder him.

For me, Damien Fletcher from BT Sport is one of the very worst.
 

nidge

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Jul 27, 2004
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Pundits that blame referees for applying the laws instead of the law makers that write the laws that refs end up having to apply.
 

Spurslove

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Pundits that blame referees for applying the laws instead of the law makers that write the laws that refs end up having to apply.

But it's the refs who are now making the laws themselves. Who invented and implemented VAR? Who gave them that authority? What is all this absolute nonsense with the delaying of the linesman's flag in off-sides and who decided that should happen? We had 100 years of football and that was never the case before.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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But it's the refs who are now making the laws themselves. Who invented and implemented VAR? Who gave them that authority? What is all this absolute nonsense with the delaying of the linesman's flag in off-sides and who decided that should happen? We had 100 years of football and that was never the case before.
FIFA. It wasn't the refs.
 

nidge

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But it's the refs who are now making the laws themselves. Who invented and implemented VAR? Who gave them that authority? What is all this absolute nonsense with the delaying of the linesman's flag in off-sides and who decided that should happen? We had 100 years of football and that was never the case before.

IFAB make the laws in consultation with all stakeholders of the game but at the end of the day IFAB make the final decision.

Here's how they go about making changes to the laws.

 

nailsy

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What is all this absolute nonsense with the delaying of the linesman's flag in off-sides and who decided that should happen? We had 100 years of football and that was never the case before.

Erm...

In the Villa match earlier, the idiot linesman flagged a Villa player offside just as he passed the ball across the area for Coutinho to slam in past the goalie, but the replay showed he was clearly ON SIDE, so the goal should have stood.

Nobody suggested the ref refer it to VAR and no VAR man suggested the ref to go over and check it on the monitor, so effectively, Villa would and should have won the match 2-1 instead of drawing 1-1, which could be crucial to them.

Seriously WTF is going on here. The game is being ruined by referees FFS.
 

nidge

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I saw no mention of FIFA being involved in the actual decision making process. Did I miss it?

IFAB decision making board is made up of FIFA that hold 50% voting rights and then The FA, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish FA's with the other 50% and requires a three-quarter supermajority to pass any changes.
 

hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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Just noticed the second half of El Clasico clashes with the first half of Liverpool/City.

Really surprised organisers from both leagues were happy to potentially lose viewers by making people chose between two of the biggest European domestic games of the season.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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Just noticed the second half of El Clasico clashes with the first half of Liverpool/City.

Really surprised organisers from both leagues were happy to potentially lose viewers by making people chose between two of the biggest European domestic games of the season.
It's a really stupid decision by La Liga. The PL TV picks were announced ages ago, weeks before La Liga announced theirs. It wouldn't be hard to take one look and think "hm, maybe we shouldn't schedule the biggest game of our season up against Liverpool v City".
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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When I used to go to matches. I was surrounded by commentators. Probably guilty of it myself.
Watching now on TV I often turn the sound off and just watch. I don’t want to know what would have happened if so and so passed it to so and so. Or that someone was lucky not to be carded.
Andy Hinchcliffe is awful for it as a co commentator.
What's funny is when I'm watching it on TV with the family we'll make a comment and then a moment or two later the commentators will repeat it. I'm sure it's a harder job than people think, but some of them state the obvious and come across boring or incredibly biased to one team or another (at least to me).
 

hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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It's a really stupid decision by La Liga. The PL TV picks were announced ages ago, weeks before La Liga announced theirs. It wouldn't be hard to take one look and think "hm, maybe we shouldn't schedule the biggest game of our season up against Liverpool v City".
What's more frustrating is I've got the evening to myself (well, me and a 10 week-old), I was getting ready to kick back and watch Liverpool/City and then El Clasico as I assumed it would be an evening game.

Ahh well, PSG/Marseille is a good alternative. :D
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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Just noticed the second half of El Clasico clashes with the first half of Liverpool/City.

Really surprised organisers from both leagues were happy to potentially lose viewers by making people chose between two of the biggest European domestic games of the season.

Why not record one of the matches an watch it afterwards?
 
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