Where are the tricks promised by Ricardo?

[badajozjim]

When Mr Levy brought in Frank as technical director, he went back to Holland to pick up Ricardo Moniz, this man was famed for his skills teaching and apparently he had 50 ways to get passed a player, it was designed by some other dutch coach whose name escapes me. Ricardo has been at the club now for three years, yet I haven't seen any visual improvement by any of the players, Keane is still Keane (funnily enough he has cut out a lot of his flicks this season), Berbatov was skillful before he came here.

What about Lennon, who incidentally has been here almost the same time as the coach, as many people have noticed Lennon seems to run past people even less now and his form has declined instead of improved. Is Ricardo to blame? What input has he given the players?

I have to admit that I don't know much about our reserves as I live in Spain, I've seen highlights from the Spurs website but not one player has caught my eye, apart from taarabt but he was already skillful before he came. So, what does this man actually do?

Does anybody have a clue?

 

[Doctor Who]

the tricks are in the bag

 

[Bulletspur]

To answer your question from my point of view....you cant teach someone skill. You are either born with it or not. Berbatov, Taarabt, Ronaldo, Nani naturally gifted and skillful players.

I dont know what this coach was suppose to be training but I agree, there is no evidence of our players being more skillfull.

 

[Kendall]

Taarabt stole them all

 

[Yid-ol]

i think its going to show more when the youger players come though, its easyer to teach them the skills than the older players and dont expect to see results show for awhile

 

[cheeseman]

I remember seeing an interview with Lennon a while back, and he said the guy had taught him x-number of new tricks for when he receives the ball with his back to goal. He must have forgotten them.

 

[Bulletspur]

i think its going to show more when the youger players come though, its easyer to teach them the skills than the older players and dont expect to see results show for awhile

Good point! :clap:

 

[General Levy]

To answer your question from my point of view....you cant teach someone skill. You are either born with it or not. Berbatov, Taarabt, Ronaldo, Nani naturally gifted and skillful players.

I dont know what this coach was suppose to be training but I agree, there is no evidence of our players being more skillfull.

Without doubt the worst post of your career. There is no such thing as natural footballing ability. It is all developed from an early age + a combination of other things...

 

[ever]

the tricks are now in a united shirt

the work that he did with carrick made him the player that cost 16million, he found a way to find himself the space to twat the ball 50 odd yards

 

[Kendall]

Agreed.

Ricardo's influence will be a long-term thing, as he's tackling academy kids. Sure he can provide hints and tips to the older players, but the hope is to develop the kids in a continental style, rather than the twatting, cropper-soccer sunday league system

 

[elvis7754]

Think he left with Jol actually...

 

[spurs4europe]

is he still at the club? there was no report of him leaving when the management changeover occurred as the official site reported that jol, chris and hans segers were all asked to leave.
however there has also been no report of him since either.
has he been demoted to the academy? that might be a question to ask robbie keane (referring to other thread)

i'd also like to mention that ricardo's skills, whilst being 'tricks' are also football fundamentals: mainly technique, finding space, kicking the ball, etc.

in the sense i think our players have improved, especially in keeping the ball within the team. whether these improvements are attributable to moniz is another matter, and one we without itk are unable to answer, but i can't imagine he's had a negative effect.

 

[Stono]

Without doubt the worst post of your career. There is no such thing as natural footballing ability. It is all developed from an early age + a combination of other things...

If that was true, then someone like Solskjær would have been ten times the player Ronaldo is. And, well, he ain't.

 

[liamc23]

Supposedly he had 99 different ways of beating a player, but like people have its not just tricks he teaches its also technique. Im not sure if he's still around though.

 

[al_pacino]

Just to add to what other people have said, he is still at the club and working mainly with the younger players. He doesn't just teach step-overs and drag-back but more general skills like improving you're first touch.

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[AngerManagement]

He told me that the first team players hardly pay attention to him and that they feel they are above being taught skills by him.

He said that he enjoys working with the youth players the most and that is who he does his best work with.

So that being said the real fruits of his labour will hopefully be seen in the coming years when we have an array of top class youngsters breaking into the first team.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Remember Lennons goal against chavski? He attributed that to his skills training.

Please don't make him the new Hughton. If you don't know, don't comment.

 

[AngerManagement]

Supposedly he had 99 different ways of beating a player, but like people have its not just tricks he teaches its also technique. Im not sure if he's still around though.

Yes he is still around he was given a three year extention to his contract and was kept on even when Jol left (which he was concern about )

Just to add to what other people have said, he is still at the club and working mainly with the younger players. He doesn't just teach step-overs and drag-back but more general skills like improving you're first touch.

I see you made the point I was trying to make already :clap:

 

[Kendall]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/ladsjustmissoutingermany.html

Here are the tricks, holding our own against some of the best adacemy players in the world.

 

[llamafarmer]

Some great posts here - Moniz's influence will not really show for a few years yet, when we start producing a different class of youth product. Hopefully, numerous decent players like O'Hara will be coming out of our academy every season and the real gems - the Ledley Kings, will start to appear more than just once in a blue moon.