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MassadaTom

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Here’s hoping Uefa dont hit us with a transfer ban for the esl involvement otherwise we're totally fucked.
Remeber that if it will hit us it will hit rest of sinister 12 as well. Could be blessing in disguise.
There is a talk Mbappe Liverpool.
 

olliec

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Jun 20, 2012
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This is the most detached I’ve ever felt from Spurs. Owners try to sell out their fans and piss off the rest of the football nation by doing so. No manager, our one manager we wanted is going Bayern. We have a world class player in Kane who hasn’t won any silverware. Even under the dark Days of lord sugar we won more. I just feel so emotionally drained supporting this club at the moment.
 

lol

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Mourinho was always a big risk and Levy showed balls by hiring him. It did not work out. I don't think we can blame Levy for that, he rolled the dice but his numbers didn't come up. I just think Mourinho was a bit rubbish, he thought he could turn up and win things. With us, you need more than that.

And yes, there is no accountability. That's not something specific to Levy, Enic or Joe Lewis. It's because football clubs are not democracies, they are owned. Until the ownership model changes, which it won't, then we have to lump it. If we were taken over it would be the same, perhaps worse. Look at the Glazers - there's even less accountability there. They have absolutely no relationship with the fans, good, bad or otherwise.

if i jump off a cliff i showed my balls as well. Doesnt mean its the right decision and makes me smart
 

Serpico

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Where we go now is to the next game Try to win that and then onto the next remaining games - this season is not over. and all to play for. I can’t be doing with all this doom and gloom leave that to Jose and his team performances. It will be nice to have a new coach in place start of the summer get players they want and so on and let’s see where we are.
 

Joshua shepherd

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Jan 31, 2013
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We could sell all the players we don't need for what, £60m? £75m? The only way we progress is if we sell Kane and Son to recoup around 200m, then do what Liverpool did when they sold Coutinho and invest it well. Not stupid big money players like N'Dombele and GLC, but astute purchases who will fit in with the manager's vision.

Honestly, we know we need money to climb up the table but standard amounts aren't going to cut it, so we make the hard decisions and start the rebuilding process. Next year is gonna be heart wrenching, especially if Harry ends up with the lotto winners but it will be easier if we see signs of growth under a new coach who we will all need to unite behind.

That will be the real test.

You say copy Liverpool and then you say don’t make big money purchases... that’s exactly what Liverpool did.
 

HodisGawd

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if i jump off a cliff i showed my balls as well. Doesnt mean its the right decision and makes me smart
No-one said jumping off a cliff would show balls or be smart. And that has no relevance to this discussion.
 
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Sorry but I couldn’t get past ‘Kane was overplayed’.

Can you think why that might have happened?

I'm not buying that it was simply because the alternatives weren't good enough. We coped fine with Kane out, and it beggars belief why we didn't ever have a 2-up-top formation when Kane clearly prefers the drop back.

Even now, Vinicius has shown he can score and help out, but he's not been involved as much as he should have been to take the heat off Harry.
 

panoma

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Jan 16, 2012
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I can't add anything to the previous posts in respect of the club. For me I'm falling out of love with football in general. A long list of factors:
  • exorbitant ticket prices, both home and away, to watch poor quality performances
  • difficulty in getting those tickets in the first place
  • constant emails from the Spurs shop pushing their latest money spinning merchandise
  • the domination of Sky and BT with their biased rota of pundits/commentators spewing the same rhetoric about their favourite teams
  • the constant changing of rules and inconsistent application by poor officials
  • the joke that is VAR sucking all the joy from scoring goals
I grew up 200 yards from the old WHL and did not miss many games. In school holidays gathered at the ground to collect players autographs. Yes you could approach players and have some connection with your heroes. Not like that now, only those players that have come up through the academy have any connection with the fans.

The only saving grace has been seeing Spurs with a degree of style and entertainment. That has been eroded in the past 2 years

Similar to Keith Burkinshaw's quote (There used to be a football club over there), there used to be a competitive sport called football. Now its just a business to milk the 'legacy fans' of their hard earned cash.

Nail on the head and you describe exactly what I feel. I used to watch a ton of games but now I only watch Spurs and I'm not even enjoying that.

The money, the prices of everything, the moneybag teams, the pundits, VAR and the constant new rules etch just makes it hard to follow it all. Including Spurs.

Hopefully I fall back in love with it all, but maybe I'm just getting old and the game evolves into something else for the newer FIFA generations.

Let's see how it goes.
 

pedrodelawasp

Morton season ticket holder, Spurs fan from afar
Jan 14, 2019
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Full disclosure, I actively support Morton because my family is from Greenock and, for better or worse (rarely better, tbh) it’s what we do.
I guess you’d say I like and follow Spurs. For no good reason, really, I just have for a long while.*

This latest episode with the Super League has left a pretty bitter taste, though. I think the only real palette cleanser could be bringing in a manager with some positive personality, and some players that match that. Not superstars, per se, but players who’ll be brave and forward thinking more often than not and who put a good honest shift in to boot.

*[I also really quite liked Keegan’s Newcastle in season 95/96 as a 12/13 yo because of their gung-ho style, Ginola and their incredible set of kits that season].
 

ardiles

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Did Liverpool suffer when they sold Coutinho? Or Suarez? Or Torres? Sometimes you need to sell your stars at their peak value and reinvest properly. They've done it exceptionally well the past few years. This is assuming one of the two want to leave, I am definitely not pushing them out the door I just doubt that both will want to stay around for another rebuild.

I’m not sure of Liverpool’s squad when those players left but I wonder whether they still had top players left in the squad at the time when those three players left the club. Unfortunately if Kane or Son, or worse still if both leave, we would be left with an average squad. We can’t guarantee that Levy would spend big on quality replacements

Kane, Son & Lloris (when all are in form) are, arguably, our three best players in the current squad. There’s already been reports that Lloris has declined a new contract offer by the club and may leave this summer. I personally think that he still has a few years left at the top level and I hope that he signs on, if he receives another offer from the club. As for Kane & Son, I’ve not heard of any concrete reports that either of them want to leave the club this summer. In fact, there’s ITK that Son may sign an extension with us.

Anyway, looks like we both agree that we should keep Kane & Son. ?
 
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fish5871

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It’s the recruitment which is bothering me the most. The money spent on underachievers compared to say Leicester who bought tielemans, ndii for example.
 

Dean

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It’s the recruitment which is bothering me the most. The money spent on underachievers compared to say Leicester who bought tielemans, ndii for example.
A lot of whom seemed do be linked with us? But nope, the powers that be decided not. Even Toby years ago, linked with us when leaving Ajax, but ended up at Southampton...so we then buy him a few years down the line. Haven't understood our transfer dealing for some time.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Jun 26, 2012
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Everyone is worrying about a UEFA fine and transfer ban, forgetting that we have an ESL abandonment fine on the way from Perez as well. :cautious::LOL:
 

PLTuck

Eternal Optimist
Aug 22, 2006
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Everyone is worrying about a UEFA fine and transfer ban, forgetting that we have an ESL abandonment fine on the way from Perez as well. :cautious::LOL:

Can't remember the poster but a lawyer on here said that contract penalty clauses are generally unenforcable in the UK.

Personally think it'll end up at CAS if it's within their remit.
 

wadewill

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It’s the recruitment which is bothering me the most. The money spent on underachievers compared to say Leicester who bought tielemans, ndii for example.

Million percent this.

We have had multiple chances to win things over the last 10 years, we had a bloody good side for 3 or 4 years. It's not down to Levy that we havent won anything, normally you would expect odds of averages for us to have won one of those big semis or finals. Guess we did the Ajax one, which we didnt deserve.

Levy is clearly a wonderful business man, the major, major issue we have is Levy's dealings on the footballing side and the only person between him and that side of things is Steve fucking Hitchen. He might have contacts but he has a fucking awful player judgement, we get this so so so wrong. Do your due diligence, NDombele, lets face it was a poor signing for the money. Little bit of looking into his background would have shown he is lazy, we didnt need that.

We need a DOF or a football man on the board, who Levy trusts and who can actually tell the little bald fecker where he is going wrong on that side of things.

I really hope that ENIC arent that thick, that if the footballing side of their "business" keeps on this trajectory their investment is sliding with it
 

dickieven

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Mar 31, 2006
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We need a complete reset. This group of players have had numerous chances to win trophies and take it to the next level. They have proved again they are just not good enough.

We need a new manager who is happy to and capable of starting a building project. I would let any player go that wants to go (even Kane and Son) and force those our that we don't want to keep. Then we build again with hungry young players with some sensible buys of players that will make us winners. Easier said than done I know but this bunch of losers will not take us any further whoever the new manager is.
 
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