Where is Gomes?

[trefarr]

what about his contract is nearly over and he did nt want to sign a new one...

Just mentioning a possibility. We all know these things happen

 

[thfc1989]

I predict he will be sold in January

 

[Mr Pink]

Gomes' problem is that he tends to drop his clangers all in a row which makes him look like a clown in the media whereas if you do space it out (like Reina used to) then the media don't get on your back.

Most importantly though I think Gomes lost the trust of his defence. After playing with him for two years they simply didn't know what he was going to do and although Friedel may not be the better keeper when they are both at their best, he is definitely the most consistent and I think that will help the defenders.

I'd love Gomes to get back to his best but the fact is he was costing us more than he was gaining us last season and he had to be dropped. Friedel gives him competition and hopefully an impetus to improve his concentration.

In the meantime I hope we're looking for a long term solution.

This is key. What the defence need is a steady Eddie behind them so there is an understanding across our back line.

I'm well happy with Friedel so far.

 

[mpickard2087]

Well we have a line-stopper now rather than a shot stopper

This is a problem with Friedel, that freekick yesterday they somehow didnt bundle into the net being an obvious example.

 

[RussellYid]

I am assuming he is refusing to sit on the bench if he is not first choice

Was sat on the bench against City... Next to JJ. Neither were in the squad.

 

[StartingPrice]

:shrug:
Maybe they've sent him to some kina sort yo shi'ite out, man psycho-babble farm over in Kali-fornica, or summit Eek

 

[Spurs1960]

Nice Europa league game coming up for him or will Cudicini play? Then where does that leave him?

 

[KILLA_SIN]

This is a problem with Friedel, that freekick yesterday they somehow didnt bundle into the net being an obvious example.

He is a capable but average keeper. and that all he has ever been

 

[brett.spurs]

This is a problem with Friedel, that freekick yesterday they somehow didnt bundle into the net being an obvious example.

Indeed. We end up with a dozen players inside the 6 yard box when our keeper sticks to his line religiously.

 

[Boots]

He's probably injured or dropped for this game with him being one of the senior players to take part in the POAK match. Friedel has usurped him as he stated he would when he came in. Sad though as Friedel hasn't done that much better than him in the games so far.

-Ran

 

[Bill_Oddie]

This is key. What the defense need is a steady Eddie behind them so there is an understanding across our back line.

I'm well happy with Friedel so far.

I can see the logic in this. The only real complaint anyone can have over Friedel ability/style-wise is his reticence to leave his line. However, if he always commits to, err, not commiting, then that is easier for the defence to deal with. The problem becomes when they drop and go deeper than usual (City game was the deepest I have seen us defend at WHL for more than a decade) to cover for him staying on his line. We'll get ripped apart if it continues, hence he'll have to make more saves. I hope we find a way of countering this and it'll be interesting to watch how many shots we allow as the season progresses. I seem to think we actually allowed quite a lot even with Gomes playing, so let's hope it doesn't get worse.

 

[Pringle]

He's probably injured or dropped for this game with him being one of the senior players to take part in the POAK match. Friedel has usurped him as he stated he would when he came in. Sad though as Friedel hasn't done that much better than him in the games so far.

-Ran

I think Friedel has come in and done very well. Made a fantastic save yesterday and i cant think of any of the goals he has conceded that were his fault tbh

 

[Boots]

I think Friedel has come in and done very well. Made a fantastic save yesterday and i cant think of any of the goals he has conceded that were his fault tbh

That's my point exactly, he's not a stellar upgrade to Gomes. He just has a better level of focus and experience in dealing with cross. Other than that can you say he's a better shot stopper, has better reflex saves and so on.

 

[Pringle]

possible not - but he is an excellent shot stopper. He is clearly a stop gap and i imagine we ll look again next summer for a longer term keeper

 

[Boots]

By no means am I saying he's a bad keeper it's just I don't think most of the goals we leak will be fixed with a goalkeeper change.

 

[walworthyid]

Gomes is an excellent keeper but just doesn't have the mental strength to cope with pressure. Friedel is a very steady keeper who won't make many mistakes.

I hope we don't sell Gomes but his contract is running out, he is now second choice and not happy about it and Friedel hasn't missed a prem game for 7 years!

Its got January sale written all over it.

 

[SpurSince57]

I can see the logic in this. The only real complaint anyone can have over Friedel ability/style-wise is his reticence to leave his line. However, if he always commits to, err, not commiting, then that is easier for the defence to deal with. The problem becomes when they drop and go deeper than usual (City game was the deepest I have seen us defend at WHL for more than a decade) to cover for him staying on his line. We'll get ripped apart if it continues, hence he'll have to make more saves. I hope we find a way of countering this and it'll be interesting to watch how many shots we allow as the season progresses. I seem to think we actually allowed quite a lot even with Gomes playing, so let's hope it doesn't get worse.

Robinson's problem was that he tended to dither; not only was he unsure of what he was going to do half the time, the rest of the defence seemed to have no idea either. Friedel doesn't have that problem. I've seen Casillas accused of being rooted to his line, anyway.

Gomes had to make 115 saves last season, almost four a game, against three a game in 09-10. As far as I recall, his save-to-shot ratio was around 70% (the other day I forgot to factor in the games Cudicini played and put it a bit higher). If some way short of the best, that's not bad.

However, if it's as TSH suggests and Gomes has lost the confidence of the defenders, that's a problem the management can't ignore.

 

[Spurrific]

Gomes Twittered/Tweeted this 9 days ago.

@GOMESNUMBER1 HEURELHO GOMES
hello I'm fine thanks, I will stay I love this FC club and I love l all the fans as well. Take care all the best.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Friedel is just a better version of Robinson, and those saying he doesn't make mistakes are ...erm....mistaken. If you watch any keeper they will make big mistakes. VDS, Cech, all of them.

And those saying he hasn't made a mistake yet could also be wrong. Gomes always came for crosses. We've conceded 5 goals from crosses already, who's to say that Gomes wouldn't have dealt proactively with a few of those.

I have always liked Friedel, he's a very safe pair of hands but the fact that we went from a team with one of the worst set piece defending records to one of the best is almost entirely down to Gomes's pro-activity in this department and I have more confidence in what he does at set pieces than most of our defenders.

And the rest of the time Gomes was excellent. The best shot stopping keeper I have seen in a spurs shirt.

What I don't get is why Redknapp was so patient and supportive of David James - a very similar keeper to Gomes - when at Pompey but would sacrifice Gomes for a keeper with no long term future at our club.

I thought it really noticeable that yesterday Redknapp singled out Friedel for praise for one save he made, but I can't really remember his ever doing the same for Gomes unless it was an exceptional moment like Arse two years ago and then he was prompted by the interviewer.

Justifying his boy ?

 

[yido_number1]

Friedel is just a better version of Robinson, and those saying he doesn't make mistakes are ...erm....mistaken. If you watch any keeper they will make big mistakes. VDS, Cech, all of them.

And those saying he hasn't made a mistake yet could also be wrong. Gomes always came for crosses. We've conceded 5 goals from crosses already, who's to say that Gomes wouldn't have dealt proactively with a few of those.

I have always liked Friedel, he's a very safe pair of hands but the fact that we went from a team with one of the worst set piece defending records to one of the best is almost entirely down to Gomes's pro-activity in this department and I have more confidence in what he does at set pieces than most of our defenders.

And the rest of the time Gomes was excellent. The best shot stopping keeper I have seen in a spurs shirt.

What I don't get is why Redknapp was so patient and supportive of David James - a very similar keeper to Gomes - when at Pompey but would sacrifice Gomes for a keeper with no long term future at our club.

I thought it really noticeable that yesterday Redknapp singled out Friedel for praise for one save he made, but I can't really remember his ever doing the same for Gomes unless it was an exceptional moment like Arse two years ago and then he was prompted by the interviewer.

Justifying his boy ?

There are some great Gomes videos on youtube when you show them to anyone ridiculing him it makes them think twice...

Its such a shame he makes some really stupid mistakes in high profile games... Man utd, chelsea x2 etc...