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Which player has improved the most under Pochettino?

Who has improved the most since Pochettino became manager?

  • Walker

    Votes: 8 1.8%
  • Rose

    Votes: 49 11.1%
  • Vertonghen

    Votes: 7 1.6%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 210 47.5%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 84 19.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Kane

    Votes: 63 14.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 20 4.5%

  • Total voters
    442

lillywhites61

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Reading through the above shows what a remarkable job Poch and his team are doing with the whole squad, they are all coming on leaps and bounds! Walker was very prone to errors and looked like he had lost his confidence after his injury layoff and looks fantastic again, Dembele is quite a transformation, players like Davies who wasn't really getting a look in is now looking sharp and solid and capable in any match. Overall great work being done, very clear to see some actual coaching work being done
 
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Is people really voting Dembele? Stop.
Dembele was good before, we saw at Fulham how good he can be when played right. And now he is just showing that, someone just needed to tell him how good he is.

It has to be Kane without a doubt. He was a complete nobody and 3/4th striker before Poch - now he is like arguably worth £50m and one of the best strikers in the League.
 

Borks

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Is people really voting Dembele? Stop.
Dembele was good before, we saw at Fulham how good he can be when played right. And now he is just showing that, someone just needed to tell him how good he is.

It has to be Kane without a doubt. He was a complete nobody and 3/4th striker before Poch - now he is like arguably worth £50m and one of the best strikers in the League.

You have the audacity to question people voting Dembele and you follow it up by naming a player that would've progressed massively regardless of manager? I'm not saying Poch hasn't done great with Kane but you're making out as if he would've been sold off to a championship side were we not to have Poch. Didn't Kane start playing and scoring in the league before Poch arrived?
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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There's a good spread of players being mentioned, and good arguments for most. Which really tells you something about the job MoPo has done.
 
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You have the audacity to question people voting Dembele and you follow it up by naming a player that would've progressed massively regardless of manager? I'm not saying Poch hasn't done great with Kane but you're making out as if he would've been sold off to a championship side were we not to have Poch. Didn't Kane start playing and scoring in the league before Poch arrived?

Kane was never a HUGE talent. He hasn't shown much since he started banging goals in the Europa League.
 

BringBack_leGin

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You have the audacity to question people voting Dembele and you follow it up by naming a player that would've progressed massively regardless of manager? I'm not saying Poch hasn't done great with Kane but you're making out as if he would've been sold off to a championship side were we not to have Poch. Didn't Kane start playing and scoring in the league before Poch arrived?
That's my feeling with Kane. He's obviously made huge strides, beyond what any of us could've foreseen, but he was clearly an intelligent and talented young player before Pochettino and was beginning to show it under Sherwood. There's an argument for him being the most improved but for me only a bad manager would've failed to get some form of quality out of him.
 

jurgen

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Jul 5, 2008
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The above posts demonstrate why I'm not sure I can pick... Kane did score some goals before Poch arrived, and as a young player you would expect him to develop and get better with experience, but he has definitely benefitted from Poch's philosophy and approach to raise his game to a level I doubt he would have made under Sherwood for instance. Likewise, Dembele always had talent, but showed it sporadically and sometimes seemed half arsed, then Poch has got hold of a 27-28 year old who seemed set in his ways and turned him into a monster who beasts it pretty much every week (may be that he is now truly fit any carrying no injuries of course). Same with Verts who was treading water coming up to his prime years and now looks a different beast.

If pushed, I dunno, I'd probably go with Dier because although he came in and straight away looked a really good footballer at CB and RB, to get him to be so consistently good in his first season at DM in the most frenetic league out there is quite something, and he is now incredibly important to our side.
 

Jody

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Sep 11, 2004
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I'd go Lamela. Love the fact he has most fouls! Followed by Dembele. Walker still flatters to deceive in my opinion. Great pace but takes far too long after his first touch and as a result invariably holds play up or loses it. Rarely see him put a quick cross in like Trippier does.
 

nightgoat

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I was going to say Dembele, but then he'd put in similar displays for Fulham to those he's putting in for us now, and he was also excellent in his first season for us.

Whilst Kane had certainly shown glimpses of his talent and that he could become an intelligent footballer going back to his debut against Hearts, the level he has reached since the start of last season is incredible. Kane is now genuinely one of the best strikers in Europe and there's no guarantee that any other manager would have facilitated that rise in such a short space of time. The only other Spurs player we've seen have a similar rise in such a short duration was Bale's last season.

Having said that, I don't think there is a single player in our squad who hasn't improved since Pochettino became our manager.
 

onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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You have the audacity to question people voting Dembele and you follow it up by naming a player that would've progressed massively regardless of manager? I'm not saying Poch hasn't done great with Kane but you're making out as if he would've been sold off to a championship side were we not to have Poch. Didn't Kane start playing and scoring in the league before Poch arrived?
Surely the best way to view it is net increase in transfer value since Poch came? Id have thought on that basis it has to be Kane.
 

nightgoat

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Surely the best way to view it is net increase in transfer value since Poch came? Id have thought on that basis it has to be Kane.

That would be skewed in favour of younger players rather than someone like Dembele whose value will naturally plateau/decline due to age. And forwards who cost more than defensive players.
 

Gassin's finest

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Lamela for me... gone from ineffective, overrated lightweight in his first season, to arguably the most important attacking player on the pitch today. And most of that transformation has been this season alone.
 

Jamturk

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Daniel Levy.

The key to everything was to wrestle the football side of the club away from the chairman gaining full control of the players.
 

Styopa

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The most improved player since Pochettino has been manager is surely Kane?

To go from:

2013/14: 19 appearances: 4 goals
2012-13: 21 appearances: 2 goals
To:
2014/15: 51 appearances: 31 goals
2015/16: 35 appearances: 19 goals and counting..

Is a staggering improvement. And the goals and number of appearances only tell half the story. He has improved beyond recognition from at best squad player to one the best, most prolific and most influential strikers in Europe. He is in many ways our talisman and most important player and very few if any saw that coming at the beginning of the 2014/15 season.

How much of this improvement is due to Pochettino is debatable and one would expect such a young player to improve naturally with age (although that is not always the case) but I think we can safely assume that Pochettino and his coaching team have at the very least created the right conditions and environment for Kane to develop and flourish over the past two seasons.

Of course, practically every player involved in the first team squad right now is playing at an improved level compared to when Pochettino took over. It really does show what a fantastic job he is doing.
 
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