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Why do Sky hate us - my theory

Dougal

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Sky only care about viewing figures, they don't care about of those other aspects, why would they? If Hull were playing the best football in the league they wouldn't suddenly take preference over us with Sky, the same applies with those clubs above us. There really isn't the need for sensitivity, the whole discussion with regards to our players may not what our supporters want to her but it is absolutely a relevant dicussion point.
And yet when Leicester came out of nowhere, not really playing great football but winning consistently nonetheless, Sky couldn't get enough. And the whipping boys on that occasion? The team that finished third.
 

SpartanSpur

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Personally I took the post game stuff on Sunday as more of a challenge to Levy and Co to really push on from here. Now maybe it's a thinly veiled jab knowing that we would struggle to pay these wages and fees, but it seemed more like how can Spurs build on this? rather than when will the wheels fall off?

All perspective innit?

For example we aren't the only team for which the media links key player departures:-

Chelsea - Potential double winners: Hazard, Costa linked away all season, Courtois and Kante also mentioned in passing and Conte to Inter.

Arsenal - Sanchez and Ozil all season (although only genuine interest in one!), Oxlade-Chamberlain to Liverpool, Giroud to Marseille. Sanchez is like their Bale currently too.

Liverpool - Coutinho to Barca keeps coming up. Sturridge situation comes up a lot too.

Utd - Martial linked away, De Gea rumours occasionally pop up.

City: Plenty of Aguero talk, the Hart circus (and subsequent bashing of the other City GKs) and their dad's army.

I think there's something in it about Sky, they don't want to go overboard backing an outsider, but I don't think it's as bad as we like to make out as a fan base.
 

TheHood

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And yet when Leicester came out of nowhere, not really playing great football but winning consistently nonetheless, Sky couldn't get enough. And the whipping boys on that occasion? The team that finished third.

Because that is a story that will generate mass interest, it was a seismic moment in the modern game. They are a media outlet, they will focus on what will generate the most views. And besides it is not as if they are consistently abusing us, the actual opposite is true I hear nothing but praise from them.
 

shelfmonkey

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This was what formed the basis of my article tbh. He rightly points out that ten minutes after the game the questions related to the present and the future. But the motivation for this wasn't hatred of spurs but necessity. How long can Jamie Redknapp, Souness and Henry talk about spurs' history? Do they know much of it? I don't think so. So the questions David Jones put forward was something they could answer. Fill the time after the pitch invasion delayed the start of the ceremony.

It's also telling that the writer could not put forward any plausible pundits that sky could have had that day. I am not sure what's happened to jenas in regards to sky but generally most of the credible ex players we have were on duty at WHL that day.

Jonas was too nice about us?!!!
 

shelfmonkey

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Breaking news: Poch has put to bed any chance of him leaving this summer. That'll be a burning cigar butt in the eye of the SKY Spurs doom mongers!!
 

Dougal

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Because that is a story that will generate mass interest. They are a media outlet, they will focus on what will generate the most views. And besides it is not as if they are consistently abusing us, the opposite is true I hear nothing but praise from them.
So we're all agreed then. There is a bias because we are not deemed interesting enough. Despite the fact that we have been central to 2 title races in a row now. And we play great football, with promising young English players blended with exciting young foreign talent. All of whom bought for boring fees in comparison with the exciting clubs. And a well liked manager who is pretty useless at giving the media headlines as he shows no weaknesses who has just said there's no chance he's leaving, the dull fecker. And the big future we are building.

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Gassin's finest

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The media exist for one thing... profit. They are literally selling something with every breath, word and broadcast. No one should take anything seriously from what are essentially salesmen.
 

SpartanSpur

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I do think the Leicester fairy-tale has skewed this also. Their insane (but understandable) love in has seemingly detracted from what is a similarly surprising achievement based on the way modern football was prior to that, which is Spurs being genuine title contenders. Not only do we get little praise for upsetting the financial superpowers as a result (and giving Sky a title race two years in a row), we seem to get simultaneously disregarded as a legit force, but are also held to the same performance standards of the elite and hammered as soon as we fall below that (see FNF bottle-job-gate). So I can see why it all grates on many.

Personally I'm more in line with the Dier way of thinking, yes I don't always like the things I hear, but I'd rather us use that to prove them wrong, and this team is more than capable of doing so (with a good summer window).
 

TheHood

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So we're all agreed then. There is a bias because we are not deemed interesting enough. Despite the fact that we have been central to 2 title races in a row now. And we play great football, with promising young English players blended with exciting young foreign talent. All of whom bought for boring fees in comparison with the exciting clubs. And a well liked manager who is pretty useless at giving the media headlines as he shows no weaknesses who has just said there's no chance he's leaving, the dull fecker. And the big future we are building.

Yes there is a bias on the viewership and we will have a favourable bias over the majority of PL clubs. What is often being suggested is that there is an agenda/malicious intent on their part which is a complete nonsense.
 

WorcesterTHFC

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Fact is we are a 'complication'. Top 4 used to be a comfortable club of Woolwich, Man Utd, Chelsea and Pool, and they could base their coverage around that.
Along came another petro club in City to complicate things and then we suddenly started breaking our glass ceiling. Before we used to get sneered at for wanting to reach that top table and invariably failing. Now it looks like there could be some longevity in this upsurge (hence the hostility from the other top 6 clubs, who finally see us as a threat).

Sky are hedging their bets as to whether it will last, so the usual stuff about Poch leaving, Kane & Alli need to leave to reach their full potential etc. I get it from Woolwich fans all the time, and there is more than a hint of wishful thinking in it. Sky just go with the flow.
Or do they direct the flow to a certain extent?
 

Dougal

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Yes there is a bias on the viewership and we will have a favourable bias over the majority of PL clubs. What is often being suggested is that there is an agenda/malicious intent on their part which is a complete nonsense.
So they're biased against us in a nice way? Seems reasonable. But then I watch Soccer Saturday. Fergie called it years ago. 'Lads, it's Tottenham!'. Hahaha. Well it's still us but we just beat his club the other day. Because we've moved on, he's moved on. Sky need to move on.
 

Japhet

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Ferguson and Mourinho used the 'siege mentality' approach to galvanise their teams (ignoring the fact that Sky were licking their arses the entire time). We could use some of the same. It would be nice to occasionally have a proper Spurs presence for some of our matches though. A lot of the TV pundits (Redknapp, Souness, Le Tissier etc.) have a 'secondry' affiliation to us, but historically, our top players have moved to bigger clubs and achieved more. I do think that we've silenced a lot of criticism this year though. When Ian Wright, Alan Smith, Souness, Neville, Carragher etc. start being complimentary you know it's because they would look utter dicks if they were not.
 

Trix

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Doesn't make them all wrong.
Doesn't make any of them right either. Like it or not you are looking at it with a weighted view as far as Spurs are concerned. You'd struggle to find many neutrals that would agree with you..
 

shelfmonkey

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I'd never noticed that before. Probably because I don't really listen to them. Probably because I was celebrating wildly at the time of the coverage. That's shocking and I'm not sure how the context led to it?

https://twitter.com/thfcnostalgia/status/650347986145398785

That's is truly disgraceful!!
Anyone else notice how SKY's commentators never get overly excited when we score, however they can barely contain themselves when the cabal teams score, the gushing descriptions are cringe worthy and if one of the 'lesser' teams happens to bang one against us, well.......
 

Dougal

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Doesn't make any of them right either. Like it or not you are looking at it with a weighted view as far as Spurs are concerned. You'd struggle to find many neutrals that would agree with you..
'Doesn't make any of them right?' would suggest you think Sky treats all teams equally? That's just a big bag of hairy balls and you'd have been better off replying using 'Takes one to know one' from a list of meaningless answers.
 

The Apprentice

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Mar 10, 2005
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I genuinely don't notice us getting any worse treatment than any other club. We're too sensitive.

Adrian Durham actually had it spot on yesterday on twitter (quelle surprise) when he said Talksport and Sky are not Tottenham Radio/Tv.

Sky's pundits bar Carra and Neville are desperately poor (Redknapp and Henry are awful), but their treatment is fairly level handed.
 

Disconosebleed

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They don't hate us, they love us. Just as they love all of the big teams. If you think they hate us, what do they feel about the likes of West Brom and Burnley?
 
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