Why Harry Redknapp is no longer the manager to take Spurs Forward

[Donki]

One of the three fit CMs, obviously.

I just love it when armchair managers bang on about 'what I would have done'. The reality is, they know fuck all. You've seen Kaboul play DM, have you? I have, for Pompey, and it wasn't pretty. If his concentration can let him down at CB (and it certainly did on Sunday), it's going to be an even bigger problem at CM.

This, this and more of this. I love it when people say oh stick Kaboul in at DM, stick Bale in as a striker and we all know "some people" asking for Lennon to lead the line. Kaboul had a fucking shocker on Sunday playing in his established position in defence, why would any one think he would have played out of his skin in midfield is beyond me, it absolutely ludicrous!

 

[StartingPrice]

This, this and more of this. I love it when people say oh stick Kaboul in at DM, stick Bale in as a striker and we all know "some people" asking for Lennon to lead the line. Kaboul had a fucking shocker on Sunday playing in his established position in defence, why would any one think he would have played out of his skin in midfield is beyond me, it absolutely ludicrous!

I suggested we might have been better putting Kaboul in CM...but only out of sheer desperation because any fool could see a mile off that Krankjar and Modric in the middle was going to be asking for serial violation.
Wouldn't have suggested any of the other stuff...and don't normally go in for the ChampMan approach, either - but,man, that was facking desperate.
I would also have considered Livermore over Krankjar...what on Earth posessed wobbly chops?

 

[SpurSince57]

I suggested we might have been better putting Kaboul in CM...but only out of sheer desperation because any fool could see a mile off that Krankjar and Modric in the middle was going to be asking for serial violation.
Wouldn't have suggested any of the other stuff...and don't normally go in for the ChampMan approach, either - but,man, that was facking desperate.
I would also have considered Livermore over Krankjar...what on Earth posessed wobbly chops?

I would guess that he didn't want to run Livermore into the ground. He'd had three starts in a week.

Sure, we could have tried Kaboul at CM, or started Huddlestone (but judging by his performance when he did come on, it wouldn't have done us much good). The bottom line is, whatever we tried would probably have been no better.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Are Palacios and Jenas genuinely injured or are they just not part of Harry's plans?

 

[fortworthspur]

I think you guys are letting Levy off too lightly. Harry aint the greatest manager ever, but he does okay with what he has. When I look at our transfer dealings I wonder what the heck is going on, both with who we buy and who we wont sell.

 

[SpurSince57]

Are Palacios and Jenas genuinely injured or are they just not part of Harry's plans?

Genuinely (although Jenas does have a certain hypochondriac reputation). I'm sure they're now surplus to requirements, but I'm equally sure that had they been fit one or both would have started at CM on Sunday.

 

[DFF]

Did he really say this...
Spurs “won’t have a better season [than last year] for the next 20 years.”

Absolutely shocking, if true.

 

[mpickard2087]

I think you guys are letting Levy off too lightly. Harry aint the greatest manager ever, but he does okay with what he has. When I look at our transfer dealings I wonder what the heck is going on, both with who we buy and who we wont sell.

Levy may have his faults when it comes to transfers, but I can understand if he is reluctant to back Harry., when we see players he wanted bought for circa £10m each only for him to decide a year or two later he doesnt want them anymore (Keane, Palacios, maybe Crouch, Bassong and even Defoe) and needs replacements at roughly the same cost. We cant keep spunking money out left right and centre on four or five new players every year, and I'm glad Levy is not just giving these players away, some who cost a small fortune a relativaly short while ago.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I think you guys are letting Levy off too lightly. Harry aint the greatest manager ever, but he does okay with what he has. When I look at our transfer dealings I wonder what the heck is going on, both with who we buy and who we wont sell.

He should do OK with what he has, he spent 100m on it.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Levy may have his faults when it comes to transfers, but I can understand if he is reluctant to back Harry., when we see players he wanted bought for circa £10m each only for him to decide a year or two later he doesnt want them anymore (Keane, Palacios, maybe Crouch, Bassong and even Defoe) and needs replacements at roughly the same cost. We cant keep spunking money out left right and centre on four or five new players every year, and I'm glad Levy is not just giving these players away, some who cost a small fortune a relativaly short while ago.

Levy needs to get real. For example, he slapped a price tag of £11m on Kranjcar's head. That's insanity.

 

[deselina]

I don't see why Redknapp can't just sell Modric, buy some decent defenders in return, have VDV in CM next to Sandro and play 442 like Spurs should always play.

 

[stemark44]

Levy needs to get real. For example, he slapped a price tag of £11m on Kranjcar's head. That's insanity.

Levy needs to balance the books though and there would probably be a few clubs interested in Niko.............would help counter balance the huge loss in selling someone like Bentley for £5M.

 

[mpickard2087]

Levy needs to get real. For example, he slapped a price tag of £11m on Kranjcar's head. That's insanity.

We dont know he would have sold at that price. IMO we could easily get £8m for Kranjcar in todays market, so £11m doesnt sound a bad price to start negotiations at.

Others I agree, the likes of Bentley, Dos Santos and Hutton who clearly have no future should have gone by now even if we had to take a real hit. Its Redknapp buying players and then deciding he doesnt want them which is where I take issue and can sympathise with Levy's stance.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Levy needs to balance the books though and there would probably be a few clubs interested in Niko.............would help counter balance the huge loss in selling someone like Bentley for £5M.

As I said earlier, I've always been pro-Levy but asking £11m for a guy who started about two games last season is taking the piss. And guess what? It scared everyone off.

 

[mpickard2087]

I don't see why Redknapp can't just sell Modric, buy some decent defenders in return, have VDV in CM next to Sandro and play 442 like Spurs should always play.

Deselina out of interest has VdV always been made of glass? Or is another stick with which we can beat the medical/fitness staff?

 

[jonathanhotspur]

We dont know he would have sold at that price. IMO we could easily get £8m for Kranjcar in todays market, so £11m doesnt sound a bad price to start negotiations at.

Others I agree, the likes of Bentley, Dos Santos and Hutton who clearly have no future should have gone by now even if we had to take a real hit. Its Redknapp buying players and then deciding he doesnt want them which is where I take issue and can sympathise with Levy's stance.

I don't know what we'd have settled for but here's Kranjcar's take on it...

"I'm shocked about the transfer fee set for me,' Kranjcar said. 'It's a price that cools down everybody who is interested. It doesn't matter if the price is in pounds or euros. A fee between 10m and 15m euros is just too much for everybody.
'If Tottenham would be happy with £6m, we could all be happy. But if they keep asking for so much money no one will buy me. I know that Dynamo Kiev were interested in buying me, but when they were told about my asking price talks just stopped.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...price-Niko-Kranjcar-claims.html#ixzz1WT4JoVTt

 

[mpickard2087]

I don't know what we'd have settled for but here's Kranjcar's take on it...

"I'm shocked about the transfer fee set for me,' Kranjcar said. 'It's a price that cools down everybody who is interested. It doesn't matter if the price is in pounds or euros. A fee between 10m and 15m euros is just too much for everybody.
'If Tottenham would be happy with £6m, we could all be happy. But if they keep asking for so much money no one will buy me. I know that Dynamo Kiev were interested in buying me, but when they were told about my asking price talks just stopped.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...price-Niko-Kranjcar-claims.html#ixzz1WT4JoVTt

Read that before. Like I said we dont know what price Levy would have negotiated at, and neither does Kranjcar or his agent.

Maybe Levy, like me, thinks Kranjcar is an asset to our squad (despite the first two league games) and shouldnt be sold? And so would only accept silly money for him.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Read that before. Like I said we dont know what price Levy would have negotiated at, and neither does Kranjcar or his agent.

Maybe Levy, like me, thinks Kranjcar is an asset to our squad (despite the first two league games) and shouldnt be sold? And so would only accept silly money for him.

So Levy wanted to keep a player who wasn't part of the manager's plans? That doesn't make any sense to me.

We are stuck with all this deadwood because we are insisting on getting top dollar for it, mpickard2087. Let's call a spade a spade here.

 

[fortworthspur]

He should do OK with what he has, he spent 100m on it.

16 or 17 million of that was Bentley, the biggest whiff in our history, and not Harry's. Anyway, how does that compare to the other top 6 teams? Obviously far less than Pool, City, UTD and Chelsea. Dont know about Arsenal.

 

[batigol]

I would guess that he didn't want to run Livermore into the ground. He'd had three starts in a week.

Sure, we could have tried Kaboul at CM, or started Huddlestone (but judging by his performance when he did come on, it wouldn't have done us much good). The bottom line is, whatever we tried would probably have been no better.

Your last sentence is interesting and if we truly thought that then Swansea, Norwich, and QPR or other perceived relegation contenders should pack their bags and head straight back to Championship.

SS57, by writing that last sentence, you are obviously doing your best to give excuses for what is clearly a poor performance from our team. You are obviously suffering from the same armchair manager mentality that you were so vocally arguing against earlier because there is no way you could have known if having Livermore or THUDD play from the start will have caused a different result because it did not happen. All we have to judge with is what we saw, an inept performance from majority players who seem to play with a lack of direction and leadership, and have no stomach for a fight when the chips are down.

We have 3 international midfielders to choose from; Huddlestone, Krancjar, and Modric. We have 1 very promising 21 year old midfielder who has shown that he can at least hold his own in the league. We were playing at home. What gets me and probably most of other fans worked up is the lack of fight and spirit shown by these players bar Livermore during the game. Were we so truly out of options or are our options in midfield so poor that we should just give up the match since no matter what we did will not make a difference? If we truly start thinking this way, as you seem to think, then we are well and truly in trouble.

Harry has to take some responsibility for this result, and I hope that you can at least understand why there is some anger and frustration from some fans after this result. Sure, it may seem kneejerk in nature but the fact was that we are clearly seeing a team that is playing with a lack in spirit, organization, leadership, confidence, and if we continue in this manner, then I believe that regardless the opposition (Manc or Norwich), we will continue to struggle against them.

Harry is not solely responsible for all this but he definitely needs to shoulder most of it. Failure to prepare a team properly for a game, failure to motivate a team when the chips are down, failure to act on galvanising a team that is obviously lacking in confidence is not the job of a chairman or fans (we can assist but that is about it) but these are largely under his scope of duty. We all believe that he is a good man-manager and that seems to be his main attribute so why do we see such a lack of fighting spirit from most of the players even in the 2nd half? I do not care who we play but at the minimum, there should be fight and commitment from them.

If Harry is no longer able to motivate our players and provide them with confidence to play then it may indeed be time for a change. 2 games may or may not be too early to judge but when you start hearing him pushing the blame onto a poor pre-season and the modric situation then you know that this is unlikely to improve unless Levy waves a magic wand and bring in some players of real quality....which should not be the sole thing any manager depends on to make his team perform. Look at how Moyes continue working on his team in dignity. He has much less resources and his Chairman has even publicly stated that there are no funds but do you see him throwing in the fight before it even begins? What worries me is that at present, there are too many reasons given for failure and not enough given for success when it is clear that we have a good squad of players. All too often Harry has given off-field reasons for on-field failures that serves to distract people away from the issues we see in each game.

We all know that Harry has done well previously and achieved good results for us but we are living in the present and what I and I believe many other fans fear is that, given the lack of the solutions presented by Harry, this present will become our future. We live in the here and now for the future, and the main worry I have is that Harry does not seem to be a person who can learn from past failures and make our present and future a success.