World Cup Discussion Thread - Day 5 (18 June)

[kaz Hirai]

Think going forward England look as good as any team in the competition.

But at the back it amateur hour. 2 shit centre backs, 1 makeshift centre back and a DMF who isn't really defensive

 

[spurs mental]

This thread is like a Spurs v West Brom match thread. Weird being on the outside but actually quite enjoyable

 

[Phomesy]

Not imo they weren't.

France was wrong because the ref made his original decision and should have stuck with it. It wasn't "clear and obvious" as indicated by the massive debate about the decision.

Edit - having said that the real fault is on the ref for changing his mind. VAR didn't make the decision. They just referred it. Which is their job

 

[SpursD22]

My takes from the first half:
Rose -> Young
Lingard is average and overrated
Kane still doesn’t look 100% fit
Maguire shaky
Trippier has played very well

 

[hughy]

Tunisia's time wasting and England's finishing makes me want to kill someone.

As a whole I think we've played well. But fuck me Tunisia are out to slow the game down and they're doing it well.

 

[spursfan77]

If that's Vardy instead of Lingard it would be about 5-1 to England

I’d get him on for sterling.

 

[Huddlestone22]

I think he's been fine.

He's been ok, I don't think he's been shit or anything like that. There's just very little range on his passing, average at winning the ball back, and scores very little.

 

[ItsBoris]

It’s a bit harsh but it was stupid, and we all know Walker has a locker full of stupid.

England had stopped playing a bit before that goal though.

This is my concern with Linguard and Alli in that CM3. Alli justifies the risk because he produces, but Lingard just isn’t creative/productive enough to justify his deficiencies, It lacks an actual metronome, someone to help Henderson manage the game and it’s tempo.

There are no other players in the squad who can do that though. Lingard is probably the most creative attacking midfield player in the squad.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I also do t understand why Southgate has got Kane constantly dropping deeper and playing behind Sterling.

It should be the other way round, Sterling’s much better on the ball than Kane, and he’s a better worker too and would help that midfield out and link it better.

 

[werty]

Henderson hasn't been bad. If Lingard could finish the game would be almost over.

 

[LSUY]

Can any law grads/coppers on here let me know whether I can get away with arguing that I was provoked into beating my neighbours to death because of their bloody vuvuzelas

 

[Marty]

But the var referees will have seen the incident in real time and could have told the referee about the foul on Kane.

If VAR refs won't give penalties for stuff like that ... I don't know, after a perfectly executed VAR call in Sweden-Korea I had hoped for the same standard in other games.

 

[King of Otters]

Instead of Lingard definitely.

Missing a link between midfield and all those pacey attackers. Henderson just hasn’t got in his game to play with his head up, neither has Dier tbh.

 

[slartibartfast]

France was wrong because the ref made his original decision and should have stuck with it. It wasn't "clear and obvious" as indicated by the massive debate about the decision.

I dont think you understand the point of VAR.

 

[nailsy]

Got to wonder why Henderson is favoured every tournament. I'm not convinced that he offers anything.

I thought he had a good half.

But the var referees will have seen the incident in real time and could have told the referee about the foul on Kane.

I think they missed it. The BBC didn't spot it until after play had resumed either.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Winksy instead of Henderson would make a massive difference to this team.

Winks instead of Linguard.

 

[@WHL]

Henderson brings nothing to the game, bring on Dier

 

[hughy]

And what's with our defence? If we tightened up at the back after the first few times we gave it away they wouldn't have even got in the final third.

 

[wirE]

An exciting first half. England unlucky not leading by four or five goals. Kane should've been awarded a penalty. GG

 

[TheChosenOne]

I keep hearing the Irish commentator saying 'Sterling falls over'