World Cup Match Thread DAY 3

[beats1]

Disagree. Think Uruguay are better, the costa rica result was a bit freaky like Spain.

They'll up their game big time and England will have to perform much better defensively to win. 3-1 Uruguay I predict. England looked like tim sherwoods tottenham. Lots of appealing running and hoff and puff but tactically a shambles

The thing is Uruguay have been poor for a while. They have had a shocking campaign and made it to the world cup by beating Jordan

I didnt think Costa Rica would beat them but thats more down to me not knowing anything about Uruguay. Cavani doesn't look the same player for Uruguay tbh

 

[jondesouza]

From a passing pov i thought he was our worst player. TBF he looked decent there for United in the big matches like when he marked out Ronaldo

Do you mean Gerrard as worst passer?

 

[thinktank]

Ok, I'm ready for some yaya.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Ok, I'm ready for some yaya.

Japan are technically excellent. Be interesting to see how the counter the pure power of ivory's attack

 

[beats1]

Do you mean Gerrard as worst passer?

Yep he was too slow for me and the ball quality was rubbish

I then meant Jones doing well at DM for united against Shaktar, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as Ronaldo last year

Also Barkley played deeper for Everton youth team and first team at times as well as doing well for the wednesday there

 

[Syn_13]

Japan are technically excellent. Be interesting to see how the counter the pure power of ivory's attack

They work bloody hard too. I'm taping the game as I'm too tired to watch it now.

 

[beats1]

I'd definitely stick jones at RB, we can't have johnson abandoning his position for 70% of the game.

henderson barkley

sterling sturridge lallana

lambert​

for me next game.

sturridge and sterling could swap at will.

TBF to Johnson he wasn't one of the worst players today and didnt do too much wrong other than when he went forward

 

[thinktank]

zokopops looking as fresh as ever.

 

[jondesouza]

Yep he was too slow for me and the ball quality was rubbish

I then meant Jones doing well at DM for united against Shaktar, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as Ronaldo last year

Also Barkley played deeper for Everton youth team and first team at times as well as doing well for the wednesday there

Disagree on Gerrard. His passing accuracy was very good. Agree with you about the pace at which he got the ball forward, but I think that was a tactical decision rather than a failing on Gerrard's part.

 

[kaz Hirai]

zokopops looking as fresh as ever.

The maestro, how he ever earned that I don't know.

Must've been one shit symphony

 

[beats1]

Disagree on Gerrard. His passing accuracy was very good. Agree with you about the pace at which he got the ball forward, but I think that was a tactical decision rather than a failing on Gerrard's part.

His passing accuracy was decent but he kept giving it to the player 2 feet high, too hard and etc.

Whereas the italians not just pirlo passed it sweetly and it took minimum effort for the receiver to control

Also O/T the Italians were dirty after the ball had gone, it was like NFL and they were roughing the passer after the pass

 

[LSUY]

Technically isn't Rooney the inform striker? He's scored way more goals this year than the rest of the strikers apart from Sturridge

The inform striker (Sturridge) started as striker. Sterling was put in the number 10 role probably because Roy wanted a Liverpool partnership in the middle what which Gerrard and Henderson playing. So instead of playing Lallana or Ox we shoehorn Rooney onto the flank where he rarely plays and according to the Premier League website only 2% of his goals this season came there.

How many times does Rooney have to fail to produce in a World Cup match before he becomes droppable?

 

[LSUY]

Do, do, do, Didier Zokora! Wish he scored at least one for us.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Can we put in a bid for bony please before arsenal come to their senses

 

[kaz Hirai]

The inform striker (Sturridge) started as striker. Sterling was put in the number 10 role probably because Roy wanted a Liverpool partnership in the middle what which Gerrard and Henderson playing. So instead of playing Lallana or Ox we shoehorn Rooney onto the flank where he rarely plays and according to the Premier League website only 2% of his goals this season came there.

How many times does Rooney have to fail to produce in a World Cup match before he becomes droppable?

Personally I couldn't care less but i can see why Roy chooses him as technically speaking he does score the most goals both domestic for united and international with England...just not in tournaments it seems. So he finds it hard putting him on the bench when on paper he should get you a goal

 

[mpickard2087]

Just got in, haven't read this thread so don't know what others make of it but I thought we were largely awful for long spells of that game. BBC seemed to be blinded by us looking dangerous on about 4 or 5 occasions and then Italy just dropping off and seeing out their lead, but lets talk about...

- Closing down the opposition. This was absolute dog shit from us. I don't care what the conditions were like, you cannot just give a team that much time and space to stroll up the pitch and decide what they want to do with it. Sterling, for all he has been raved about tonight it seems, led the way in this total lack of getting in and about their deep midfielders. Rooney and Sturridge were also pretty abysmal in their efforts. Welbeck hit and miss, but tried a bit more to put some pressure on. You cannot let them stroll up the pitch at walking space, leaving 4 men ahead of the ball, and drag our centre mids out repeatedly because it leaves space in front of the defence. I don't think Henderson and Gerrard had good games, but they didn't get much help from those in front of them. Likewise with Baines. Was far, far too easy to play through us.

- 1st goal. How fucking basic was that? Didn't even get enough markers out to the Italian players hovering on the edge of the box. At what age do you get taught to pick up every man at corners... 6 years old? We deserved to concede for such amateurish stupidity. Another case where I have to ask what exactly we are doing during the week and on the training pitch and tactical team meetings.

- Tactically schooled. Outnumbered in the centre of the pitch yet Italy still found ways to target us down one flank through clever positioning and movement. We never looked like getting to grips with it. Combine this with piss poor pressing and it really was too easy.

- Fitness. I only saw one team with people getting cramp...

This wasn't a good performance. We had a few lively moments, mostly down to individual skill. As a team we were all over the place and sorely lacking in most departments, especially when we didn't have the ball.

 

[thinktank]

holy shit

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Cracking Strike!

 

[kaz Hirai]

Just got in, haven't read this thread so don't know what others make of it but I thought we were largely awful for long spells of that game. BBC seemed to be blinded by us looking dangerous on about 4 or 5 occasions and then Italy just dropping off and seeing out their lead, but lets talk about...

- Closing down the opposition. This was absolute dog shit from us. I don't care what the conditions were like, you cannot just give a team that much time and space to stroll up the pitch and decide what they want to do with it. Sterling, for all he has been raved about tonight it seems, led the way in this total lack of getting in and about their deep midfielders. Rooney and Sturridge were also pretty abysmal in their efforts. Welbeck hit and miss, but tried a bit more to put some pressure on. You cannot let them stroll up the pitch at walking space, leaving 4 men ahead of the ball, and drag our centre mids out repeatedly because it leaves space in front of the defence. I don't think Henderson and Gerrard had good games, but they didn't get much help from those in front of them. Likewise with Baines. Was far, far too easy to play through us.

- 1st goal. How fucking basic was that? Didn't even get enough markers out to the Italian players hovering on the edge of the box. At what age do you get taught to pick up every man at corners... 6 years old? We deserved to concede for such amateurish stupidity. Another case where I have to ask what exactly we are doing during the week and on the training pitch and tactical team meetings.

- Tactically schooled. Outnumbered in the centre of the pitch yet Italy still found ways to target us down one flank through clever positioning and movement. We never looked like getting to grips with it. Combine this with piss poor pressing and it really was too easy.

- Fitness. I only saw one team with people getting cramp...

This wasn't a good performance. We had a few lively moments, mostly down to individual skill. As a team we were all over the place and sorely lacking in most departments, especially when we didn't have the ball.

Pretty much how I saw it, i posted earlier comparing it to tim sherwoods tottenham. Tactically inept off and on the ball

Man love me some Honda! But don't know where he'd fit in at current spurs

 

[mpickard2087]

Wow Honda.