would we have taken League Cup and 11th ?

[ChRiStOpHe]

I just think a more respectable league finish should've happened. Like 6th.

11th and the fizzy pop cola cup do0esn't attract big players.

No, but Juande does :hump:

 

[hellava_tough]

Does anyone else have a bad feeling about next season?

I'm not a doom-monger at all, quite the optimistic opposite in fact. However, I've just got this gut feeling that things are going to go tits-up next year and we'll finish bottom half again (which is crap considering the players and potential investment at our disposal).

I think the main reason is that there's going to be a clear-out in the summer (that's pretty much predicted and to be honest it'll be needed, if we are to believe that quite a number of the players aren't motivated/don't much like Ramos and his regime).

This means we'll need a new flock of players for the squad. And if our recruitment goes wrong this summer, like it did last summer (although not quite a disaster, I'm sure you'll agree), I can see us doing poorly in the league for a second season.

I really hope I'm wrong, because there's nothing like coming into work on a Monday morning and bustin' some chops, because your team won at the weekend.

But as I say, just got a gut feeling. Can someone cheer me up? :-|


PS To be honest, I'm probably just feeling this way because our season petered out after the Uefa Cup knock-out, and I've lost all excitement/waiting for the season to end.

 

[SpurSince57]

Probably not. i was well pumped up for this season. Then Chopra popped up.

Less Chopra popping up than an out-of-position Salty getting done by his man, Big Tone failing to cut out the cross, and Chimbonda apparently having his eye on some piece of totty behind the goal rather than Chopra.

Worse still, Gardner losing out to Lescott (and it's a moot point whether that was his ball or Robbo's), Rocha clattering Robbo into the back of the net, and, the icing on the cake, Zokora passing straight to an Everton player, Stalteri then giving away a silly free kick, and Zokora (again :roll deflecting the ball past Robbo after Johnson did his Clyde act.

Yes, those two games certainly set the tone (no pun intended) for our defending.

I suppose I would have taken 11th and the CC in August, but you might have had to give me a Chinese Burn first. I'd certainly have taken it in October. After we won the CC I was rather hoping for 6th and the UEFA Cup too.

A&C, stop hiding behind that caprine!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

A&C, stop hiding behind that caprine!

:grin:

 

[simyid]

ok to all the people who would have chosen 5th over the league cup i ask 1 question and that is where you more happy on the day we won the league cup or last season when we pinched 5th? i think the answer is pritty conclusive

 

[Yid-ol]

ok to all the people who would have chosen 5th over the league cup i ask 1 question and that is where you more happy on the day we won the league cup or last season when we pinched 5th? i think the answer is pritty conclusive

it will be obvious everyone will say the cup, but after 2 seasons of finnishing 5th, last season having good cup runs and coming close and yet still pushing on and finishing 5th, i cant see how saying winnign a cup and finishing 11th at the start of the season is acceptable, surley we have taken huge steps back with this (even with a cup win).

if we had finished top 7 and won a cup, i would have maybe been able to agree with that, but from 5th to 11th is just laughable, and even though we won the leauge, we wil lstill get laughed at and underminded by where we finished in the league and who finished above us.... and we may not even yet finish 11th! especialy with some of the performances latley!!

 

[Bulletspur]

The only thing better than winning FA, UEFA and Carling cup is winning the actual league. 2nd place in the EPL onwards (CL is no guarantee other than money) means that you are 2nd best and not a winner.

So I would take winning a cup over coming between 2nd and 17th in the league any day (18th, 19th and 20th are relegated).

By the way I should have voted for 11th and 12th but voted the last one in error!

 

[GazzasBelly]

Apart from maybe 5 games, this season has been proper poo. And since the CC win the lads have really disappointed me. At least we seemed to be trying early doors, ok playing shit but trying. Hope Ramos has a busy summer.

 

[hybridsoldier]

winning the cup is a big step forward for us and has broken the big 4 dominance on trophies bar a boro league cup win a few years back.

We've fallen away with the league but the cup was ohh so worth it.....beating the scum and the blue scum on the way too!

 

[Wsussexspur]

Like most people If you said before start of pre season that would I take finishing 11 or 12th and winning Carling cup probley have said no as thought we would have chance this season to finish intop 4! However with the start of season we had any chance we had of a top 4 and probley top 6 finish were over by the time Ramos took over so yes will take 11 or 12th and Carling cup! But taking Carling cup out of it this season has been nothing short of terrable! We have been so inconstitant!

 

[striebs]

Some SCers (EddieBailey?) correctly assessed last Summer's transfer window as being "disastrous" , even before Ramosgate .

The failure to obtain proper cover for Ledley came home to roost in record time when the injury crisis hit .

I voted that I would have taken it at the beginning of the season but if one goes back to the end of last season , then this season must be viewed as a huge missed opportunity .

 

[hughy]

None of the above. I think even 5th place and winning the League Cup would have been aiming low at the start of the season.

 

[sloth]

Do we know for sure that the goat's a dude?

I reckon it's the beard which is the give away :wink:

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

I reckon it's the beard which is the give away :wink:

Dammit :doh:

 

[SpurSince57]

Some SCers (EddieBailey?) correctly assessed last Summer's transfer window as being "disastrous" , even before Ramosgate .

The failure to obtain proper cover for Ledley came home to roost in record time when the injury crisis hit .

I voted that I would have taken it at the beginning of the season but if one goes back to the end of last season , then this season must be viewed as a huge missed opportunity .

That, I suspect, may have been down to duff medical advice, and the buck for that has to stop with DC. Just how the hell could they have got it so wrong?

I think if you could retrieve the SC wish lists from last summer I'm sure you'd find an almost unprecedented, near-100% unanimity as to where we should be spending the money. Which begs the question, if a bunch of armchair managers could see what was needed, why couldn't the professionals?

And now it appears we're setting things to rights a year late.

 

[Tequila]

The goat needs to stop talking in the third person. It makes him sound like a twat.

The Goat says... Know your role and shut your mouth

so funny goat speaking in 3rd person.

 

[Kurtzen]

I could try and retrieve some of the 'joy' i received for suggesting at the start that our midfield was a passport to 'mid table mediocrity'. So no surprise where we are, but the frustration? Revisiting DC's, DL's, and BMJ's assurances we were top 4 contenders.....?

Would I have taken a cup and 12th/13th at the start....probably, but only with irritation at what could have been.

Onward and upward.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

No fucking way

this season has been a disaster

No it hasn't. If we'd played shit all season and flooked a trophy (like pompey will) that still wouldn't be a disaster.

We have actually played well far more consistantly than last year. A combination of poor management, bad individual defending & shit luck has seen us not pick up the points we deserve. But last season it got to the point where I couldn't even watch us away from home we were so insiped. That has rarely happened this year and at home we are the top scorers in the prem.

Couple this to winn9ing a trophy by wooping your biggest rival 5-1 in a semi then outplaying your next biggest rival at wembley you really can't call this season a disaster. Even if you are a hardened realist you have to say to have played the way we have, won a trophy in style, qualified for Europe again , appointed one of europes most saught after managers is a fucking million miles from disaster.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That, I suspect, may have been down to duff medical advice, and the buck for that has to stop with DC. Just how the hell could they have got it so wrong?

I think if you could retrieve the SC wish lists from last summer I'm sure you'd find an almost unprecedented, near-100% unanimity as to where we should be spending the money. Which begs the question, if a bunch of armchair managers could see what was needed, why couldn't the professionals?

And now it appears we're setting things to rights a year late.

But it wasn't just the lack of King. Jol clearly thought very highly of Robinson and Dawson and had no intention of dropping either, let alone replacing them. This was at the heart of our defensive problems. Even the signing of distin would not have solved this failing of Jol. Distin is a LCB. Might have filled in for King but would not have replaced Dawson.

If there is a failing of Comoli it was not forcing Jol to realise the shitness of two players he (Comoli) had fuck all to do with signing. My bet is Jol was such a populist he was scared to even countinance the idea that Robinson & Dawson (his bully beef "english back bone") might be our weakest link.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I'm undecided...yeh theres more buzz associated with the CC win ,

but if we'd finished 5th there would have been a WHOLE LOAD of other buzzes from all those extra league wins we'd have had .

Who knows we might have even beaten Birmingham ..