Would you be happy if...

[talkshowhost86]

...we won the league playing the style of football that we currently play?

I think we can all agree that we're not the most scintillating team to watch at the moment, but at the same time I don't think our high win percentage under AVB is a coincidence. I think the amount of possession we have means that we're always more likely to win than lose and if we carry on playing this way I can see a lot of 1-0 wins during the season.

But if it was enough to take us to the title, would we as Spurs fans be happy?

Is a title win the most important thing?

Is playing 'the Tottenham way' more important even if it means less success?

I'm not asking for a debate on whether we are likely to win the league playing this way, but more whether this current attack on our style of football from some areas would stop if we started to look like title contenders.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Where have you been? This is SC. The moaning will NEVER stop.

But to answer your question, I would take a title win under any circumstances, playing any sort of football.

 

[felmani26]

Absolutely yes!

 

[Dr Know]

The way I see it, if we keep picking up points then the confidence will come and the play will improve. Last night showed the strength we have in depth through the squad and as many has already mentioned, once this bunch gel we will be a great team.

I would rather we go under the radar than being called title contenders in the press week in week out

 

[CowInAComa]

No. If you mean that literally every game carried the thrill of the Hull league game? What would be the point.
Thats for people who care about boasting to rival fans more than watching their club play football.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Where have you been? This is SC. The moaning will NEVER stop.

But to answer your question, I would take a title win under any circumstances, playing any sort of football.

I agree on the title front. I think maybe once you've won a number of titles you can start talking about wanting to win them 'playing well' but until that time, a title win is an incredible achievement however it comes about.

I just don't quite understand the scale of the negativity around at the moment considering how well we're actually doing results wise.

 

[joelstinton14]

I was thinking about this, and i think it be a devloping story through out the season. Do we want success or good football?

I would say yes, but at the same time we have the squad to do both.

Obivously i think AVB as set ways to play against certain teams, because against norwich i thought we were superb, playing some of the best football we seen us play under avb, and for the last few months under harrys reign. So.. we can do it!

Anyway COYS!

 

[teok]

To me these sorts of loaded questions are silly. People are worried that the style we play won't get results against the better teams. That's it. It will improve with time but it still feels nervy right now.

 

[Spurs1960]

Didn't bother reading beyond the first line being as it's a daft question. If someone doesn't want to win the league they are not a fan.

 

[talkshowhost86]

No. If you mean that literally every game carried the thrill of the Hull league game? What would be the point.
Thats for people who care about boasting to rival fans more than watching their club play football.

I can certainly see this argument to a certain extent, and in a way I admire it as it's quite a purist view.

But when it comes down to it, don't most of us actually want to boast about winning? Nobody is going to win a football argument by saying "Yes you won the title, but we played the better football".

You just have to look down the road at Arsenal and ask their fans if they've been happy for the last 9 years. Lots of very lovely football but no titles to show for it. I suspect they'd give up every bit of media post-match wanking over their good play for a league title.

In the same vein, how many teams that have won the league in recent years have really played 'good' football? I don't really remember any of the recent title winning teams being particularly easy on the eye, so I wonder if it's something we're getting too het up about?

 

[talkshowhost86]

To me these sorts of loaded questions are silly. People are worried that the style we play won't get results against the better teams. That's it. It will improve with time but it still feels nervy right now.

Why is it silly? The debate over whether it's likely to win us the title or not is a separate one.

I wanted to know whether people would accept this style if it brought success. Pretty simple really.

 

[teok]

It's not an "either or" question though. There is no guarantee that playing this way will bring success.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

...we won the league playing the style of football that we currently play?

I think we can all agree that we're not the most scintillating team to watch at the moment, but at the same time I don't think our high win percentage under AVB is a coincidence. I think the amount of possession we have means that we're always more likely to win than lose and if we carry on playing this way I can see a lot of 1-0 wins during the season.

But if it was enough to take us to the title, would we as Spurs fans be happy?

Is a title win the most important thing?

Is playing 'the Tottenham way' more important even if it means less success?

I'm not asking for a debate on whether we are likely to win the league playing this way, but more whether this current attack on our style of football from some areas would stop if we started to look like title contenders.

I would be delighted, in as much as it would give us the platform to start playing better football.

No one is happy with the stuff we're dishing out at the moment, there's no doubt about that. But I'm sort of OK with it as long as the results still come. We're a very young team, trying to integrate a bunch of a new players. It's not a surprise that it's still looking a bit drab. We are, to a degree, a team in transition and the players need our patience and support.

My concern is that it won't keep getting results. We need to figure out our attacking midfield and we need to sort it pretty soon IMO. The league could well look distinctly less appealing after Everton and the two Manc games unless we buck up our ideas

 

[talkshowhost86]

It's not an "either or" question though. There is no guarantee that playing this way will bring success.

Which is why I've used that very critical word 'if'

Sheesh

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians, dam right id take it, you think the chavs complained the 1st time they won it playing the Jose borefest way

 

[CowInAComa]

I can certainly see this argument to a certain extent, and in a way I admire it as it's quite a purist view.

But when it comes down to it, don't most of us actually want to boast about winning? Nobody is going to win a football argument by saying "Yes you won the title, but we played the better football".

You just have to look down the road at Arsenal and ask their fans if they've been happy for the last 9 years. Lots of very lovely football but no titles to show for it. I suspect they'd give up every bit of media post-match wanking over their good play for a league title.

In the same vein, how many teams that have won the league in recent years have really played 'good' football? I don't really remember any of the recent title winning teams being particularly easy on the eye, so I wonder if it's something we're getting too het up about?

Seriously and honestly no. I made the choice long ago with one half of my family gooners and one half chavski, and my friends all Liverpool. And I chose to support Spurs for a reason, and the reason is the style. I figured anyone can pick a winning club, but I picked a club that tried to do it the way I admired, even though they mostly failed. I guess for people who fell into Spurs, for geographical or family reasons may feel a little aggrieved about the lack of trophies but it was a choice I made. So these options you provide arent a hard choice for me.

The option to support a cynical joyless successful club is always there. Ill just buy a different coloured top.

Im pretty certain that for all their clubs success Chelsea fans dont live a happier or more rewarding life than I do. And they have to support Chelsea.

As a side note: Thats not to say I dont appreciate that there are always games that are a grind and that sometime glory requires a more pragmatiic approach to be applied. But I would insist upon maintaining a base footballing philosophy true to our roots

 

[teok]

Which is why I've used that very critical word 'if'

Sheesh

But it implies it. We aren't far enough into the season to know if these results mean any thing. We need to play far more teams.

 

[CowInAComa]

But it implies it. We aren't far enough into the season to know if these results mean any thing. We need to play far more teams.

its just hypothetical.

 

[Montasura]

Firstly, to answer the question, yes I would take a title win under any circumstances.

Secondly, one will lead to the other anyway. A title win means more money and champions league football, both of which lead to more money, which leads to better players, which leads to (in theory) better football.

 

[C-oops]

WE have too much talent in our squad for everything not to eventually all click into place. It's definitely taking some doing at the moment but we'll get there. Im sure of it. When we do, some poor bastards are going to be on the end of some serious thumpings.
The main point is that we are in contention and not playing well. At least we havent been losing and given ourselves too much of a gap to close.