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Marty

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Need more proof?

I don't know the exact rules for goal kicks I'm afraid, but a throw-in has to touch another player for a goal to be given.
 

we_all_loved_freund

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Deary deary me, it's a usefull tool for stoke, at present. But it won't be "undefendable" for very long. Teams will set their stall out, i know it's difficult to decide where you will concede throw ins but i'm sure teams will look very hard at where they do give them away. It's not a reason to sign someone and if we stoop that low then i feel it's time to give up.

Well from the second game of the season teams have known its coming and still they can't defend it, I can't see that changing? How many goals have now been scored from his throws this season?
 

Damian99

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Yes what you have shown is just a simple "direct free kick" the fact a goal keeper(Robbo) took it and the distance, is irrelevant. But thanks all the same, still nice to watch.
 

we_all_loved_freund

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Robbo's goal against Watford was from a free kick?? And i do not mean a kick from a keepers hands by the way i mean a "goal kick". Now it's my belief a goal kick must go beyond the 18 yard box before any player can touch it, or possibly certainly one of your own team mates. Lets says it's that windy the ball doesn't leave the 18 yard box before it blows back into the net(all hyperthetical and probably impossible) then what?

I am not totally sure any player can score direct from a "Goal kick" itself, unless another player touches it first.

Wonder if anyone can confirm the actual rules on those.

i know you definately can't be offside from a goal kick! :shrug:
 

Damian99

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Well from the second game of the season teams have known its coming and still they can't defend it, I can't see that changing? How many goals have now been scored from his throws this season?

Correct and we are still only 9/10 games in. The fact is stoke offer little of anything else and make no mistake teams will sort it out. As andy gray showed on Sky, it also depends on where he throws them from and as also pointed out on Sky there were certain positions when they were just not that effective. And what if your big strong Center Forward break is leg and his out for the season, then what? Like i said it's a uesful tool(at present) but one Tottenham shouldn't need to be looking at.

So it's still a big NO for me.
 

Marty

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Yes what you have shown is just a simple "direct free kick" the fact a goal keeper(Robbo) took it and the distance, is irrelevant. But thanks all the same, still nice to watch.
I posted it more because you couldn't remember that it was a FK than to actually be part of any discussion :wink:
 

3Dnata

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I'm not really sure how many of his throws Bentley, Zakora, Modric, Lennon & GDS would get on the end of.
 

Damian99

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By the way didn't we manage to defend all of Delaps throws when we lost 2-1 earlier this season? So if we can do it(as bad as we are/were at the back) then it is possible as Tottenham have proved.
 

Sir Henry

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He's at the best club for him, a championship side thats been lucky enough to play in the prem. Good enough for Spurs ? Hell no.
 

hughy

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I'm not really sure how many of his throws Bentley, Zakora, Modric, Lennon & GDS would get on the end of.

When have any of those ever got on to a corner, free-kick, or any other ball in to the penalty area at a height?! Jenas, Pavlyuchenko, Bent, Woodgate, King are all capable of planting a header.
 

Krafty

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His throws ins are as good as a corner, but I think for a team of our quality he is not good enough. How many times have Stoke had a long throw this season? 30? 40? 50? And 7 goals come from it, a lot of them due to shocking defending.

Gomes dealt with their throws, its just a shame we let them score a penalty and in open play.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Delap has been around for ages. How come his throws never got much of a mention before? Surely they are no more difficult to defend than a corner or a cross. It is just that Stoke pile everyone in the box and combined with a loopy floating ball into the air makes it difficult to defend. It isn't very easy to attack either, and I am sure they will score less goals from it in the second half of the season.
 

mil1lion

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Stoke are a team of 6 footers, which is why it works for them, but hasn't for previous clubs that Delap has played for. We're not big enough and powerful enough to take advantage of it.

I think you have to defend it like a corner. Get a player on each post and pick up markers. I think teams over complicate the set piece and worry too much. Its not much different than a corner, just coming in at a different angle. But then, you could play a corner back to a full back quickly and whip a ball in if you wanted.
 

spurdownunder

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I'm not really sure how many of his throws Bentley, Zakora, Modric, Lennon & GDS would get on the end of.

How funny it would be to see Delap throw one of his rokets and hit Zokora's left arse cheek and find the back of the net.

Didier ain't likely to score any other way.

So I'll vote for Zoko....YES.
 

ravo

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No

Although it would be funny to see how many goals Stoke would score without him...
 

Goldman

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I just love the quote from Wenger before the game, something like.. yea im not worried about the throws they only score from them once every two months or so..

Then they get both goals from the throw ins.. hahaha :rofl:

Although thinking about it, Wenger proably didn't see them.


But back to Delap, no thanks.
 

worcestersauce

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Having looked at a few of the goals from the long throw I can't rememeber any unstopable headers it's usually just that they get a head to it before the defenders and it goes in without too much pace.
I wonder if teams just accepted that with enough throws they are going to get to the ball enough times to hit the target and just defended the goal line it may have a beneficial result.
Defenders on the posts like at a corner and three men running back onto the line as he throws the ball and you could crowd them out. Unorthodox I know but isn't the long throw unorthodox?
 
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