Your £40mill war-chest?!

[Lanh]

Incoming

LM/AMC Daniel Carvalho 5m (Superb player, quick, eye for goal, excellent set-pieces)
LM/CM Yuri Zhirkov 5m (Superb worker, nothing flash, very quick, good dribble, hard shot)
RM/AMC Andres D'Alessandro 8m (Tricky little winger Lennon needs good competition)
LB Christian Pander 6m (Lee will most likely be moved on unfortunately, Lahm is an excellent replacement but Pander is cheaper.)
GK Cerny 1m(Loan made perm)

Total:- 25m

Outgoing

Chimbonda 6m (worst of our 4 RB's in my opinion)
Stalteri FREE (Needs to play and won't under Ramos)
Gardner FREE (Loyal servant, deserves to be allowed to move to a team he'll play for)
Boateng LOAN (Needs more experience, looks extremely raw, send to Champ side)
Lee 2m (Sadly it is clear he'll be leaving. Hope his next clubs supporters appreciate him more than some on here)

Total:- 8m

This would leave 33m for an audacious bid or two and the ones I would make would be:-

Pablo Aimar 12m (Superb player - Contract is up in 2010 so they might want to sell)
Diego 17m (Haven't seen too much of him but what the hell I have money to spare)

Also, as realistically Cerny's contract is not going to be renewed, the only keeper I have seen who excites me is German Lux, spunk any spare cash on signing him and let's make Robbo sweat! :lol:

 

[Michey]

Yep, shite - Englands number one for, sorry, how many games? Played in goal, at the top level for us for, sorry, how many games? He's, sorry, how old?

Says nothing about his ability more about Englands lack of topclass goalkeepers. Has been known for quite a long time.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Says nothing about his ability more about Englands lack of topclass goalkeepers. Has been known for quite a long time.

yeah, obviously :|

When there was Green, James, Carson and Kirkland all also doing well and pushing him for his shirt. We might not have had a Petr Cech to put there but you're honestly telling me that England have only used Robbo in goal because he's the best of a bad bunch?

You say "It's been known for quite a long time" - i must apologise and, i hope they don't mind, but i feel i need to apologise for several people i know. You might know a few of them too, actually -

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"Guys! Guys! Shhhh!! He's not good! We're all wrong, it's just cos everyone else is shit!" :shrug:


:lol:

alright...

 

[Michey]

When there was Green, James, Carson and Kirkland all also doing well and pushing him for his shirt.

Not topclass....not even close. Sorry.

Buffon, Coupet, Casillas, Toldo, Hildebrand etc. There's some class :up:

"Guys! Guys! Shhhh!! He's not good! We're all wrong, it's just cos everyone else is shit!" :shrug:


:lol:

Something like that....and why you're laughing i don't know since this is serious shit. :???:

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Well, i can handle someone having an opinion that i don't agree with, i can also deal with people who are wrong and just don't know any better.

Michey, i'm not going to bother with trying to explain why you're wrong again, it's obvious it's hitting something dense in between your ears and your "goods in" department, and you'll only kick back with some pointless non-fact that you just decided was true, so i'll not waste my breath anymore. I'll simply say, stay off of the crack and if you're as fickle in your everyday life as you are with the players you are meant to SUPPORT, then you must have a really shitty time keeping friends :|

It's not serious shit, it's you thinking the grass is greener - i learned a long time ago to appreciate the things i have.

Paul Robinson is a hugely talented keeper - you can knock him all you like because i, along with the thousands that chant his name, are SUPPORTERS of our club and players, not people who like to pose and piss and whine about them with no substance bar their own short term memory.

 

[Flatters]

I'd wait until the season's over to decide. :up:

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

Not topclass....not even close. Sorry.

Buffon, Coupet, Casillas, Toldo, Hildebrand etc. There's some class :up:

Is Hildebrand Valencia's no.1 now Canizares is gone?

What about H-J Butt? He's 2nd choice keeper at Benfica now, behind Quim.

*did he just say Quim?* *sniggers*

 

[worcestersauce]

Chimbonda can go, accept £5m for him. Gardner to go, another £1.5m. Bent, if we can get £8m, i'd take it. Aside from that, i see a role for pretty much everyone else, but we are a bit light on right wingers, with only Lennon and JJ really suited to play there, JJ nearly always playing centrally. I also think that someone pushing Lennon for his spot will make him improve even more - He's begun to make progress again, i don't want that to stop so, with that in mind, and our increased budget from sales:

£40m+£8m+£5m+£1.5m = £54.5m

Leo Messi £35m
Philip Lahm £7m
Giles Barnes £6m

spend the rest on youngsters whose names i don't know.

I suspect the £40m is already based on incoming fees for outgoing players. :-|

Nobody will pay £7m for Dawson

How can you say such a thing when there is an Aston Villa in the world?

 

[Michey]

Well, i can handle someone having an opinion that i don't agree with, i can also deal with people who are wrong and just don't know any better.

Michey, i'm not going to bother with trying to explain why you're wrong again, it's obvious it's hitting something dense in between your ears and your "goods in" department, and you'll only kick back with some pointless non-fact that you just decided was true, so i'll not waste my breath anymore. I'll simply say, stay off of the crack and if you're as fickle in your everyday life as you are with the players you are meant to SUPPORT, then you must have a really shitty time keeping friends :|

It's not serious shit, it's you thinking the grass is greener - i learned a long time ago to appreciate the things i have.

Paul Robinson is a hugely talented keeper - you can knock him all you like because i, along with the thousands that chant his name, are SUPPORTERS of our club and players, not people who like to pose and piss and whine about them with no substance bar their own short term memory.

You can't seriously say to be a good supporter you have to shut up like a mute idiot and just accept what you see and never ever criticise bad players or wierd decisions. This is a supporters-forum where people discuss and posts their view of what happens with Spurs and the players.
Why do you even bother to post if everything are so great or of it's not even worth to discuss?

I just don't get why you want to compare giving criticism to Robinson and keeping friends. And this over and over again... Would have been more interesting to know why you say that keepers like Kirkland, Green, Carson are topclass.

I guess this means you've never thought that Tottenham has had a bad player that you've criticised...because if you do you're not a supporter?? That kind of people could easily be mistaken for "useful idiots"

Well well, you'll see in the summer how much Ramos thinks of Robinson.....but perhaps he's fickle and a crackcase to?

 

[Michey]

Is Hildebrand Valencia's no.1 now Canizares is gone?

Yes, he's their first choice now.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

It's an interesting situation, Rockster. I think Robbo is a good keeper. Perhaps a very good goalkeeper. Certainly he was hugely responsible for our league positions in his first season or 2 with us. As such he deserved to retain his spot after a handful of errors.

Unfortunately the second he admitted that his confidence was shaken by the balls at the last World Cup he stopped performing at this level. McClaren fucked him around too. Jol supported him but Hans Segers showed little signs of being able to give the poor bloke what he would have needed (advice and the right approach) to get him back performing to this level.

It's possible that Ramos will do this, and he has 11-16 games to give it his best try, which I'm sure he will.

But ultimately, I would be amazed if at the end of this stretch Ramos did decide that Paul Robinson was the man to be his number one in his pursuit of the Barclays Premier League. This is, after all, his aim. There can be no escaping it. If he has 40m to spend, then it would be nuts to stick with an out of form keeper when someone 'better' - or at least an equivalent of a Berbatov/Jenas/King/Woodgate in goal - was available for a few million.


Which brings us nicely back to the thread (God, I really should apply for the role of 'Speaker of the House of Commons'). I have probably seen less European footy than most in the past couple of years, but I'd probably go for:

OUT:
1. Cerny (not extend loan)
2. All the current loanees 5-6m
3. Thats it

IN:
1. Diego Capel 8m
2. Mathieu Flamini FREE (had the same thought earlier today, Christ :up: )
3. Charles N'Zogbia 8m (To challenge Steve Mallbrank or work with Steve on the right - may be cheaper once the bar-codes are relegated)
4. That Italian Number 2 keeper we apparently almost bought, whose name I've temporarily forgotten (and who, as you can tell, I've seen literally thousands of times) 5m?
5. Dave Kitson 3m
6. if Villa don't make Europe, maybe a cheeky bid for Gareth Barry might be in order.

 

[Michey]

Which brings us nicely back to the thread (God, I really should apply for the role of 'Speaker of the House of Commons').

Good idea

Here's a little peace-offering. We can't all agree on things and that's why thsi forum is a interesting place to visit

http://www.misternicehands.com/

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Without going back to insulting our current players, does anyone else wonder why we've got a kitty of £40m? Levy has to make up his mind - he either wants a classy team that performs as a team, or he wants to be Chelsea, in slow motion. Unless we've got specific targets already highlighted, with backups in place and strict spending limits, it dissapoints me that despite the great work our team's been putting in over the last few weeks (in the face of unappreciative fans, in some cases) and now Levy feels the need to chuck £40m at the side - I get the impression we'll lose a few players we don't want to lose this window, unless Ramos and DC are very smart with who they buy and for what position.

£40m :duh:

 

[yanno]

An observation. In the past, we've been the butt of a lot of jokes when we've linked with the likes of Rivaldo, Eto'o, even Ronaldinho. And yes, I still won't take any rumours linking us with Ronaldinho seriously.

But..... It's not just the Spurs players who've been impressed with Ramos. I'm pretty certain that a lot of top players are now thinking, "Wow, this coach knows how to win things". Woodgate certainly did. And we're now guaranteed European football next season.

If Ramos really does have a £40 million warchest, I expect him to try to sign 2-3 TOP CLASS PLAYERS WITH THEIR BEST YEARS STILL AHEAD OF THEM. For me, these are the likes of Lucho Gonzalez, Villa, Garay, Capel. And I think we have the best chance in a long time of persuading top players to sign for us.

I sincerely hope the horror days of our being linked with Peter Crouch and Marlon Harewood, and other EPL journeymen, are long long gone.

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

2. Mathieu Flamini FREE (had the same thought earlier today, Christ :up: )

Bill knows

5. Dave Kitson 3m

Funnily enough, when I realised how much I still had to spend, I did have a look for a another striker, and I was sooooooo close to adding Davey boy to the list. Thought I'd be roundly shouted down, so decided against it :-(

Bill knows, again

 

[Bill_Oddie]

:grin:

Although is that not the phrase Gooners use about Arsene? :| Ah well, I suppose they mean it in an idolising way, so I'll assume I'm carry on in the knowledge that I am some kind of messiah.

Other names I considered that might be available/interesting, depending on their situation were: Steven Taylor, Artur Boruk, David Bentley, John O'Shea, Saloman Kalou.

Although, I did wonder about Tawe Taiwo, Yapi-Yapo, and the Traore triplets. :wink:



yanno, I totally agree. I would actually go further - and I think this may answer Rocky's very fair question - and say that this 40m is not just for transfer fees. It would also cover wages. E.g. If we sign a top, top player, we CAN afford to pay top, top wages. Or at least the 60-80k a weeks that we will need to.

That would tie in with the stories of Berba being offered a new big, fat contract. And I would imagine that Keane and Jenas would be in line for a new deal, too.

 

[yanno]

yanno, I totally agree. I would actually go further - and I think this may answer Rocky's very fair question - and say that this 40m is not just for transfer fees. It would also cover wages. E.g. If we sign a top, top player, we CAN afford to pay top, top wages. Or at least the 60-80k a weeks that we will need to.

That would tie in with the stories of Berba being offered a new big, fat contract. And I would imagine that Keane and Jenas would be in line for a new deal, too.

We will inevitably have some wage inflation as we win (and hopefully continue to win) trophies. And that'll be a challenge for Levy and Comolli.

But if the press are to believed, the Woodgate deal was heavily incentivized to prevent him breaking our wages structure. If true, it's no wonder Woody went absolutely mental when he scored - it wasn't the glory, it was the extra million he'd just made.... Only kidding. :wink:

So, yes, I'm sure wages are part of it. But we can also raise a lot of cash through selling players. And in response to the earlier query about £7 million for Dawson. I may have been optimistic there, but I wouldn't be surprized if the likes of Newcastle, Pompey, Villa would pay in that region for Dawson. How much will Villa eventually pay for Curtis Davies? How much did the Spammers pay for Upton?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Bill, that would make far more sense than the stories claiming that Levy is going to just hand over that kind of amount to spend, unless it was earmarked for specific targets. That's the kind of money you're talking for a world class player. That said, this is the premier league so, say another 5 years, players like Nugent and Taylor will be changing hands for upwards of £15m anyway, so maybe we're not so far off the mark and want to get used to the outlay before we're forced into it...

i dunno, i'm still hugely dissapointed in the number of people on here who have lost faith in some of our team in such a short space of time in one breath and praising slackers like Chimbonda in the next. :shrug:

I'm pretty resigned to the fact that Pascal will be out of here come the summer and it doesn't bother me much, but i still think it'd be worth a cheeky bid for Lahm and Barnes to give us some real bite down the right hand side...

Is it only me who, the hard working Hutton/Lennon pairing aside, thinks we're a bit light weight down the right and it's been ignored for a while now, overshadowed by our problems in other areas of the pitch? We're lucky Lennon didn't pick up a knock recently - actually, his fitness and strength has shot up, he really is starting to look, again, like a real promising talent but i still think he needs some motivation and Barnes could be that.

 

[Legend10]

Bill, that would make far more sense than the stories claiming that Levy is going to just hand over that kind of amount to spend, unless it was earmarked for specific targets. That's the kind of money you're talking for a world class player. That said, this is the premier league so, say another 5 years, players like Nugent and Taylor will be changing hands for upwards of £15m anyway, so maybe we're not so far off the mark and want to get used to the outlay before we're forced into it...

i dunno, i'm still hugely dissapointed in the number of people on here who have lost faith in some of our team in such a short space of time in one breath and praising slackers like Chimbonda in the next. :shrug:

I'm pretty resigned to the fact that Pascal will be out of here come the summer and it doesn't bother me much, but i still think it'd be worth a cheeky bid for Lahm and Barnes to give us some real bite down the right hand side...

Is it only me who, the hard working Hutton/Lennon pairing aside, thinks we're a bit light weight down the right and it's been ignored for a while now, overshadowed by our problems in other areas of the pitch? We're lucky Lennon didn't pick up a knock recently - actually, his fitness and strength has shot up, he really is starting to look, again, like a real promising talent but i still think he needs some motivation and Barnes could be that.

Interesting points re the right hand side but I personally now see Steed as the cover for Lennon on that side. This is because we now have a host of players who can play left side...

Gilberto
O'Hara
Bale (next season)

If we were also to sign Capel we would be well covered in wide positions especially as Capel and lennon are out and out wingers.

RB-Hutton, Chimbo
LB-Bale, Gilberto
RM-Lennon, Steed
LM-Capel, O'hara, Bale, Gilberto

Although I do expect Chimbo to leave in the summer and maybe Gunter was bought with this in mind to be cover for Hutton if Chimbo goes.

personally I think the wide positions are strong for us and Bale will be almost like having a new £10 million signing anyway. if capel arrives as well then we truly have strength in depth out wide.

I think the main focus will be a CM and a Keeper, I'm not anti Robbo but I believe that Ramos wants a new keeper.

 

[yanno]

Interesting points re the right hand side but I personally now see Steed as the cover for Lennon on that side. This is because we now have a host of players who can play left side...

Gilberto
O'Hara
Bale (next season)

If we were also to sign Capel we would be well covered in wide positions especially as Capel and lennon are out and out wingers.

RB-Hutton, Chimbo
LB-Bale, Gilberto
RM-Lennon, Steed
LM-Capel, O'hara, Bale, Gilberto

Although I do expect Chimbo to leave in the summer and maybe Gunter was bought with this in mind to be cover for Hutton if Chimbo goes.

personally I think the wide positions are strong for us and Bale will be almost like having a new £10 million signing anyway. if capel arrives as well then we truly have strength in depth out wide.

Totally agree about Steed - he will be a squad midfielder next season, particularly for the flank positions. And I'm pretty sure Ramos will try to sign another genuine left-footed LMer in the mould of Capel.

I also think Ramos will try to get at least one top class player in for each "spine" position. A top CB, because we know Ledley and Woodgate will not manage to play every game. A top CM, because we need one. And, for me, another top striker, with Bent possibly being sold - so we'd still have three strikers, but they'd all be outstanding.