Youri Tielemans

[gnuelwerdna]

I think Conte wants someone who can play in the Jorginho role more than someone who can play number 10, especially when Bissouma is not very good at long passing.

 

[werty]

I think we're going to be playing a lot more 352 than people expect.

 

[EQP]

I’ve gotten to the point where if we decide to sign someone it means it is Conte/Paratici endorsed. I clearly back Conte/Paratici’s understanding of what our squad needs more than myself or any fan.

Taking that view it’s quite easy to get behind players linked to us. Tielemans is hardly an average player though, he’s shown a very high level in the PL before dropping off last season along with the whole Leicester team.

Just to add to the last bit of your post, he actually had his best statistical season in the PL so far last season with 6 goals and 4 assist in 33 appearances compared to his 20/21 season where he put the exact same numbers (6 goals and 4 assists) but featured in 38 games.

 

[chrissivad]

I'd say Bissouma was for starter quality depth. Don't forget, that even with Bissouma, we're still only 1 injury away from not being able to rotate our two in midfield. With all the games across 4 comps, we can definitely do with another First 11 quality player in YT -- especially as he gives Conte something different to change up the formation. For not a lot of cash, he buys us a big upgrade on numbers and options. No brainer for me.

Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Skipp and Bissouma
1 player unavailable still gives us an option from the bench and able to rotate players.

It might not be a 2 in 2 out rotation, but you can still manage game time.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

What about Skipp?

This is the problem, 5 into 2 is complete overkill.

Not if we want to seriously challenge in 4 completions + 5 sun rule then it isn’t.

If we have only 4 and get 1 injury then we will have 2-3 guys playing an absolute ton of minutes.

Also with a Tilemans type signing it would give us the flexibility to play 3-5-2 when needed.

Conte had the quality of likes of Eriksen often on the bench at Inter and that was without 5 sub rule or such a competitive league as the PL.

5 CM’s here makes total sense for what Conte wants to achieve given the 5 sub rule

 

[mabolsa_ritchey]

I want this to happen purely for the Gooner meltdown

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Skipp and Bissouma
1 player unavailable still gives us an option from the bench and able to rotate players.

It might not be a 2 in 2 out rotation, but you can still manage game time.

Yea very true mate but across 4 competitions with a tight schedule and 5 sub rule 3 CM’s would be very light/risky and with only 4 we’d be one injury away from that scenario.

If we have the money to sign one and we have covered all the other weak areas of the squad then this would be a cherry on the icing on the cake for me to have absolutely every base covered in terms of injuries and rotation and going deep in all 4 competitions.

 

[EQP]

I dunno. Are some maybe underwhelmed based on his latest season performances??

But...

Bit stat heavy, but I did like this...

Still, Tielemans’ midfield role at Leicester is hardly of the free-scoring Frank Lampard ilk. The best of his attacking output comes in creating openings for others. Since his Premier League debut, only Bruno Fernandes (127), Jack Grealish (166) and Kevin De Bruyne (190) have created more chances from open play than Tielemans (115). It’s a figure that’s helped Leicester to 171 league goals in his time at the club, a tally only bettered by Liverpool (210) and Manchester City (232).

Why Youri Tielemans Is One of the Premier League's Best Midfielders

Leicester City have turned their form around in recent games, but Youri Tielemans has kept his standards remarkably high in 2021-22.

theanalyst.com

" Alongside the improving Boubakary Soumare, Tielemans was the best player on the pitch against Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s Red Devils. He had the most shots (four) and created the most chances (three) of any Leicester player and, level with Soumare, won possession the most for his side (seven times). Meanwhile, his 66 completed passes, 41 of which were in the United half, and 96 touches were the most of anyone in the game "



I keep reading from posters that he's lazy and doesn't chip in with defensive work, yet the stats say differently.

 

[mil1lion]

I've seen him mentioned as an upgrade on Winks but we already have Bissouma for that. Tielemans doesn't sit as deep , more of an 8. I can only really see him work in a midfield 3 which we wont play too often. I would rather a more versatile player who can play in the support forward role. Preferably someone who can play inside right. Richarlison covers inside left and centre forward, Perisic also covers left forward, Son could cover right side but is best on the left. Ideally we would be upgrading on Moura.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Skipp and Bissouma
1 player unavailable still gives us an option from the bench and able to rotate players.

It might not be a 2 in 2 out rotation, but you can still manage game time.

Sure, but it's still cutting it fine. One suspension or further injury and we're barebones again. Conte lamented numerous times about the lack of a bench. And then there's the chance we might play with 3 in the middle at times. We can't do that over a season with just 4 cms, none of which are suited to the more progressive role like YT.

For me, this isn't an expensive transfer and gives us some great depth. I figure if we've got Conte, let's give him a big squad of quality players to attack all comps; it's our best chance of winning something rather than in the past having to put out poor teams just to rest for the EPL/UCL.

 

[Yiddo1982]

This is difficult because he was better but has dropped off last season.

I think we need players that drag their lesser teams up through strong performances (Richarlison and Bissouma)

I’d rather we avoid players that have got dragged down by their teams and haven’t been able to stem the tide despite having ability (Tielemans)

Fabian Ruiz for me, please!

 

[chrissivad]

Yea very true mate but across 4 competitions with a tight schedule and 5 sub rule 3 CM’s would be very light/risky and with only 4 we’d be one injury away from that scenario.

If we have the money to sign one and we have covered all the other weak areas of the squad then this would be a cherry on the icing on the cake for me to have absolutely every base covered in terms of injuries and rotation and going deep in all 4 competitions.

Hopefully he is just one of the options, and Conte can have a look at Sarr to see if he is ready or not as he could provide cover and play a few games .

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

He gives us the option of going into a 3 though without looking very negative. I think 3 of our current 4 options looks too defensive. Also, we are bound to get injuries, probably won’t be that often that all 5 are fit and available.

Personally I would prefer a B.Silva type that could cover/compete with Kulusevski from a creativity perspective in the XI, but also is such a tireless runner they can work in a midfield 3. Those players are rare though so we have Richarlison/Lucas as Kulu cover and Tielemans covers that midfield spot.

I think Tielemans as a player is being seriously underrated by some though. If we are chasing a goal he’s an excellent option to come on in midfield 2 vs what we currently have. He has creative passing and is capable of the spectacular - see FA cup winning screamer and that unreal chip into the top corner vs United.

He was one of the standout players in the Prem before last season over multiple years. Potentially Leicester’s best player as they won the FA cup and came within a whisker of top 4 twice. This is not an average player.

I’m not against a midfield option. I’m against having a player who is similar to other options. It makes more sense to sign a AM/no.10 type who can play as a 10 behind a front 2. That is what gives us ‘options’.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Not if we want to seriously challenge in 4 completions + 5 sun rule then it isn’t.

If we have only 4 and get 1 injury then we will have 2-3 guys playing an absolute ton of minutes.

Also with a Tilemans type signing it would give us the flexibility to play 3-5-2 when needed.

Conte had the quality of likes of Eriksen often on the bench at Inter and that was without 5 sub rule or such a competitive league as the PL.

5 CM’s here makes total sense for what Conte wants to achieve given the 5 sub rule

I’m against having another midfield option. I’m against Tielemans specifically as he is too close in style to our other options. He’s a 6/8. We really should be aiming for an Eriksen 8/10 type to give us more flexibility.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I’m not against a midfield option. I’m against having a player who is similar to other options. It makes more sense to sign a AM/no.10 type who can play as a 10 behind a front 2. That is what gives us ‘options’.

He isn’t alike any of the other 4 imo. He would be closest to Bentancur but is far more progressive with his passing and his ball carrying.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

He isn’t alike any of the other 4 imo. He would be closest to Bentancur but is far more progressive with his passing and his ball carrying.

Yes he’s closest to Bentancour and essentially he wants to play as a 6 or 8. It’s better if we sign a player who is comfortable as an 8 or 10.

 

[Stoof]

Yes he’s closest to Bentancour and essentially he wants to play as a 6 or 8. It’s better if we sign a player who is comfortable as an 8 or 10.

But that’s not what Conte did to Eriksen who was as 10y as they come. So no I don’t agree we need that trad 10.

 

[spursfan77]

Surely Eriksen is a better option than Tielemans?

 

[djhotspur]

But that’s not what Conte did to Eriksen who was as 10y as they come. So no I don’t agree we need that trad 10.

I was coming in to say this. Conte doesn’t play with those classic 10s, they’re more creative 8s

 

[WiganSpur]

What about Skipp?

This is the problem, 5 into 2 is complete overkill.

It depends how much depth we have in the forward line. If it stays as is and we get a couple of injuries up there Conte can just switch it up to a 3-5-2.