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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE GOODBYEEE EDITION 3rd September 2014

jezz

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Right who's slagging Levy off, im not having any of that.:mad:
Anybody slagging Lamela off will get both barrels and then your mum will get the suggested implement, well you can guess.
Please report any infractions to me immediately.
Especially the Lamela ones
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Well, i'm sort of basing it on nothing other than my opinion, same as you. :D

They won't be selling him with two years left on his contract. By January, he'll have the rest of this season and all of next. Effectively 18 months. And if they don't sell him then, it'll be down to 12 months left. If he don't sign a new deal they will blink first IMO.

I'm by no means certain that i'm right, I leave certainty to others, Me? I'm just a minge with an onion.

As I said, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Precisely this.

See us moving for J-Rod and Hector Moreno, both down to 18 months by Jan.

Wickham will be in demand also if down to 6 months.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Divock Origi apparently said in an interview that we were very interested in him but obviously he chose Liverpool. Shows we were looking for a LWF/ST
 

HappySpur

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Jan 7, 2012
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The BSoDL will NEVER want adopting, it's a self feeding entity. The worse things he does, the more they like it. He could go on a 2 day puppy and kitten killing spree, film himself drinking their blood and take out ads showing it on national TV whilst interfering with old ladies and shouting "how dry's your vadge then grandma" and the BSODL would still say "Ah well, better the devil you know"

Because, as we all know, the next owner WILL ruin us. (another fucking grand myth of theirs)

Phew, turned into a rant that didn't it? :nailbiting:


I'm on the fence with Levy, as I both like and hate him and don't know if he should stay or go. But if he drank blood on TV and offended some old ladies, I would definitely want him to stay. That's Putin style shenanigans. So I think you need a better example. ;)
 

Japhet

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Well if it's true I can understand it. Rodriguez' contract is running down now and his value with it. We'll probably pick him up for nuppence in January if we want him. Why take less for a player he obviously has put a decent value on? And especially in exchange for a player just coming back from a serious injury, a player who might not be the same on his return, or might suffer a reoccurence etc etc. It doesn't make sense. Let Rodriguez play games for them before making a move. And then snap him up, like I said, for not much at all.

Just because it's fashionable on SC to rate Townsend as 'shit' or whatever, doesn't mean that in the real footballing world he hasn't got potential and a higher value than was offered. Plus Levy might like to see what Pochettino can get out of him. There are many decent reasons he might have turned this offer down.

We have to remember that Levy etc look at everything with a detachment that us fans can rarely muster.

Except me of course, but thats one of the side effects of having a 12 incher :cool:

BSoDL please note: Just because i'm backing Levy on this doesnt mean you've turned me, he's still a **** but i'll give credit where it's due :D


He's got quite a bit left on his contract from what I've read (2016 I think). Personally I'd rather have somebody that Poch knows he can work with than somebody who might come good at some point in the future.
 

allatsea

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If that was the offer SCBC made for Townsend either they are plain stupid or JRod is a real worry injury wise.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Divock Origi apparently said in an interview that we were very interested in him but obviously he chose Liverpool. Shows we were looking for a LWF/ST
Actually, I think he actually said that we made a concrete offer for him, which he rejected...
 

robbiedee

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Jul 6, 2012
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Actually, I think he actually said that we made a concrete offer for him, which he rejected...

He also said that as soon as he met Rogers and Rogers knew all about him he was convinced. Something about Rogers watching videos of him as a kid :eek:...playing football that is:whistle:

He may have also used the following lines 'liverpool have a fantastic history' 'they were my boyhood club' 'they are a massive club' 'I really bought into the managers vision and philosophy'.

The **** rejected us. shit bastard! :)
 

Spurger King

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I waver between liking and disliking Levy. I'm still convinced that some investment in the squad in Harry's last January window with us, or paying the extra for Moutinho in AVB's first season, would have considerably improved our chances of qualifying for the CL. In turn, we would have recouped a lot of that cash through CL money, would have been in a better position to keep our star players, and would have been a more attractive prospect for new players. It seems that after Bent and Bentley, Levy is no longer a believer in the 'speculate to accumulate' ethos.

Our current squad is good, but it's not 'top four' good, so I hope he's not expecting that from Pochettino. Unfortunately a lot of our fans will not accept watching us slip further away from the CL contenders (which is what I suspect will happen), and it won't surprise me if this leads to an increasingly hostile atmosphere at the Lane (or at least on a par with the last days of the AVB era), a negative mood in the squad, and more than likely, fans directing their frustration at Pochettino. I'll be very impressed if Pochettino does well enough to still have a job this time next year (though obviously I hope he's given time).

On the other hand, Levy has provided us with a top of the range training facility at no small cost, and is well on the way to sorting out the new stadium, whilst overseeing a sustained period of European football and top half finishes.

Things could be a lot worse, but I can't help the feeling that some better investment, and occasionally paying over the odds for the sake of his manager and the squad, would have put us in a much better position, both financially and competitively.
 

dagraham

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I waver between liking and disliking Levy. I'm still convinced that some investment in the squad in Harry's last January window with us, or paying the extra for Moutinho in AVB's first season, would have considerably improved our chances of qualifying for the CL. In turn, we would have recouped a lot of that cash through CL money, would have been in a better position to keep our star players, and would have been a more attractive prospect for new players. It seems that after Bent and Bentley, Levy is no longer a believer in the 'speculate to accumulate' ethos.

Our current squad is good, but it's not 'top four' good, so I hope he's not expecting that from Pochettino. Unfortunately a lot of our fans will not accept watching us slip further away from the CL contenders (which is what I suspect will happen), and it won't surprise me if this leads to an increasingly hostile atmosphere at the Lane (or at least on a par with the last days of the AVB era), a negative mood in the squad, and more than likely, fans directing their frustration at Pochettino. I'll be very impressed if Pochettino does well enough to still have a job this time next year (though obviously I hope he's given time).

On the other hand, Levy has provided us with a top of the range training facility at no small cost, and is well on the way to sorting out the new stadium, whilst overseeing a sustained period of European football and top half finishes.

Things could be a lot worse, but I can't help the feeling that some better investment, and occasionally paying over the odds for the sake of his manager and the squad, would have put us in a much better position, both financially and competitively.

Agree with all of that. My biggest gripe with Levy is that he didn't grasp the opportunity that presented itself when we were blessed with 3 world class players and some of our rivals (particularly Arsenal) were weakened. That is the time to invest, when you are strong, in order to consolidate your position and make it more difficult for your competitors to overtake you.

It didn't need a crazy Chelsea type spend or wild abandonment of our wage structure, just a bit more eye on the short/medium term alongside the ultimate long term aim. After all, when you look at the amount of money we've thrown down the drain paying off sacked managers and their staff and bringing new ones in, we would have been better off just being a bit more flexible and proactive with some of the transfer fees we were willing to pay.

We dropped a big bollock imo because opportunities like we had won't come round again any time soon.
 
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Hoopspur

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I waver between liking and disliking Levy. I'm still convinced that some investment in the squad in Harry's last January window with us, or paying the extra for Moutinho in AVB's first season, would have considerably improved our chances of qualifying for the CL. In turn, we would have recouped a lot of that cash through CL money, would have been in a better position to keep our star players, and would have been a more attractive prospect for new players. It seems that after Bent and Bentley, Levy is no longer a believer in the 'speculate to accumulate' ethos.

Our current squad is good, but it's not 'top four' good, so I hope he's not expecting that from Pochettino. Unfortunately a lot of our fans will not accept watching us slip further away from the CL contenders (which is what I suspect will happen), and it won't surprise me if this leads to an increasingly hostile atmosphere at the Lane (or at least on a par with the last days of the AVB era), a negative mood in the squad, and more than likely, fans directing their frustration at Pochettino. I'll be very impressed if Pochettino does well enough to still have a job this time next year (though obviously I hope he's given time).

On the other hand, Levy has provided us with a top of the range training facility at no small cost, and is well on the way to sorting out the new stadium, whilst overseeing a sustained period of European football and top half finishes.

Things could be a lot worse, but I can't help the feeling that some better investment, and occasionally paying over the odds for the sake of his manager and the squad, would have put us in a much better position, both financially and competitively.

Not really for this discussion thread, but I came across this snippet from elsewhere which has gone into the stadium thread. This kind of gives a little more insight into finances and why money is still a little tight. Worth a read as it kind of applies to the team as much as the stadium.

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/ind...s-and-discussions.38802/page-595#post-4228220

I just do not think we are cash rich and still need to be run well.
 

Vwbottom

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Farewell transfer / formations / levy out / other nonsense thread. Until January
 

HappySpur

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As I said in a post via Spurs Chat.....for all the good things that Levy has done, one of the least talked about issues is that he lacks a commitment to a plan of action. I imagine he must be a nightmare to work for.

He has had 1 less manager than Roman Abrahomvic during that guy's tenure (2 years less that Levy's) and we use them as the poster boy for knee-jerk. He's had a pseudo DoF in Pleaty, a definite DoF in Comolli, he gave up on the idea for Harry, starting working as the DoF when Harry secured us, moved back to a pure DoF with Baldini. And he used to believe in soccernomics and now doesn't. And he used to spend money but now he doesn't.

He's not learning, he's not adapting, and I'm starting to wonder how he ever made it in the business world as he lacks anything except the ability to squeeze blood from a stone. He's basically pavlovian, reacting to whatever sound is going to give him the treat and reduce his chance of a shock.
 
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prawnsandwich

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Lads I have some ITK regarding Townsend (probably not a lot more than we already know) from deadline day. Basically my mate from my football team is Andros' cousin and he was told by Troy (Andros' Dad) that Tottenham had turned down a bid of £9mill and Jay Rodriguez before 9pm. Andros was actually pretty sure he was headed to Southampton earlier in the day.

So that's one of the rare moments I'll get information (y)
It looks like J-Ro is "for sale."
If that ITK is true it shows that the club and a lot of fans think highly of AT.
 
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