The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE GOODBYEEE EDITION 3rd September 2014

[Japhet]

Lads I have some ITK regarding Townsend (probably not a lot more than we already know) from deadline day. Basically my mate from my football team is Andros' cousin and he was told by Troy (Andros' Dad) that Tottenham had turned down a bid of £9mill and Jay Rodriguez before 9pm. Andros was actually pretty sure he was headed to Southampton earlier in the day.

So that's one of the rare moments I'll get information

If there's anything in that rumour somebody needs to be collecting their P45.

 

[cliff jones]

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Morning all

So, it's all over. You can't imagine my relief. I can now go back to lurking with the occasional burst of anti-Levy posts to keep the fires burning in that thread. I've even got time now to polish the offical SC buttplug and put the finishing touches to my new nuns uniform. It'll be making its debut on the last thursday of the month during the meeting of our local backscuttlers and flangeticklers society in the fruit and veg aisle in Tesco. If any of you are in the area you're welcome to attend. Bring your mums.

Donations: On the last day we raised enough to cover us until the beginning to mid December. We'd like to thank each and every one of you who donated or set up standing orders through the summer, it's definately helped keep the site going and at the very least the ITK threads going. Cheers guys.

Soon, these forums will vanish as I prepare the place for the next one so don't panic, they magically reappear in good time.

We'll be back early December I reckon, for another few weeks of mayhem and madness, so see you then. In parts its been fun and we've had a laugh, a lot more of that in the January window would be great!


They say always leave them with a song. Well "they" can fuck right off……..bye bye my little ITKlings

"Goodbye-ee, goodbye-ee,
Wipe the tear, baby dear, from your eye-ee!
Tho' it's hard to part I know,
I'll be tickled to death to go.
Don't cry-ee, don't sigh-ee,
There's a silver lining in the sky-ee,
Bonsoir, old thing, cheerio, chin, chin,
Nap-poo, too-dle-oo,
Goodbye-ee."

****s

Cheers a and c and all those who give their time to make this place such a complete place to be as a spurs man. This window finally drew me out of long term lurkdom, even if it was initially to predict we wouldn't be signing anyone at over twenty mill. Everything crossed for fazio and benji, and that some one up front will go on a streaky scoring run.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

Thanks

 

[Insomnia]

The BSoDL will all want adopting if that is true about Townsend.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

If there's anything in that rumour somebody needs to be collecting their P45.

Well if it's true I can understand it. Rodriguez' contract is running down now and his value with it. We'll probably pick him up for nuppence in January if we want him. Why take less for a player he obviously has put a decent value on? And especially in exchange for a player just coming back from a serious injury, a player who might not be the same on his return, or might suffer a reoccurence etc etc. It doesn't make sense. Let Rodriguez play games for them before making a move. And then snap him up, like I said, for not much at all.

Just because it's fashionable on SC to rate Townsend as 'shit' or whatever, doesn't mean that in the real footballing world he hasn't got potential and a higher value than was offered. Plus Levy might like to see what Pochettino can get out of him. There are many decent reasons he might have turned this offer down.

We have to remember that Levy etc look at everything with a detachment that us fans can rarely muster.

Except me of course, but thats one of the side effects of having a 12 incher

BSoDL please note: Just because i'm backing Levy on this doesnt mean you've turned me, he's still a **** but i'll give credit where it's due

 

[mark87]

It says we turned down 9m +J-Rod for Andros... surely that can't be right?

If THAT was the case then I am going to white hart lane right now and teabagging Levy.

 

[SamR]

It was probably £9million + No bids entertained on Rodriguez this window/ some timeframe.

I actually think £9 million is a fair fee for his current form and ability. If we can rise his stock to his England debut form again we'll probably get £12-15 so perhaps wise to hold out

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

If THAT was the case then I am going to white hart lane right now and teabagging Levy.

Be careful, he bites.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

The BSoDL will all want adopting if that is true about Townsend.

The BSoDL will NEVER want adopting, it's a self feeding entity. The worse things he does, the more they like it. He could go on a 2 day puppy and kitten killing spree, film himself drinking their blood and take out ads showing it on national TV whilst interfering with old ladies and shouting "how dry's your vadge then grandma" and the BSODL would still say "Ah well, better the devil you know"

Because, as we all know, the next owner WILL ruin us. (another fucking grand myth of theirs)

Phew, turned into a rant that didn't it?

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

The BSoDL will NEVER want adopting, it's a self feeding entity. The worse things he does, the more they like it. He could go on a 2 day puppy and kitten killing spree, film himself drinking their blood and take out ads showing it on national TV whilst interfering with old ladies and shouting "how dry's your vadge then grandma" and the BSODL would still say "Ah well, better the devil you know"

Because, as we all know, the next owner WILL ruin us. (another fucking grand myth of theirs)

Phew, turned into a rant that didn't it?

What are you called if you think that Enic are doing a decent job but Levy isn't the Messiah although a shrewd chairman who has done pretty well for us over his tenure. Basically not disgusted by them.

As well as someone who is very wary of what could happen with new owners and therefore cautious about being led a merry dance as someones plaything.

Is there a name for us like BSDOL? Or are we just called 'sensible'?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Is there a name for us like BSDOL? Or are we just called 'sensible'?

Don't flatter yourself.

Fence sitter.

 

[Disconosebleed]

Well if it's true I can understand it. Rodriguez' contract is running down now and his value with it. We'll probably pick him up for nuppence in January if we want him. Why take less for a player he obviously has put a decent value on? And especially in exchange for a player just coming back from a serious injury, a player who might not be the same on his return, or might suffer a reoccurence etc etc. It doesn't make sense. Let Rodriguez play games for them before making a move. And then snap him up, like I said, for not much at all.

Just because it's fashionable on SC to rate Townsend as 'shit' or whatever, doesn't mean that in the real footballing world he hasn't got potential and a higher value than was offered. Plus Levy might like to see what Pochettino can get out of him. There are many decent reasons he might have turned this offer down.

We have to remember that Levy etc look at everything with a detachment that us fans can rarely muster.

Except me of course, but thats one of the side effects of having a 12 incher

BSoDL please note: Just because i'm backing Levy on this doesnt mean you've turned me, he's still a **** but i'll give credit where it's due

There's no way we were offered Rodriguez and £9m for Townsend. I would imagine either it's a typo or a misunderstanding on the part of the poster, and it was £9m plus Townsend for Rodriguez (or alternatively the whole thing was fiction).

He has two years left on his contract so there's no reason for Southampton to sell him cheap. He cost £7m two years ago and has hugely enhanced his reputation since them - assuming we've been asking a maximum of £15m for Townsend (and I would imagine it's less than that), this would mean Southampton were valuing Rodriguez at £6m, probably lower. It just wouldn't make any sense.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Don't flatter yourself.

Fence sitter.

That's fine, I'll take that as 'non sensationalist'

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

There's no way we were offered Rodriguez and £9m for Townsend. I would imagine either it's a typo or a misunderstanding on the part of the poster, and it was £9m plus Townsend for Rodriguez (or alternatively the whole thing was fiction).

He has two years left on his contract so there's no reason for Southampton to sell him cheap. He cost £7m two years ago and has hugely enhanced his reputation since them - assuming we've been asking a maximum of £15m for Townsend (and I would imagine it's less than that), this would mean Southampton were valuing Rodriguez at £6m, probably lower. It just wouldn't make any sense.

Personally (IF it's true) I think that it was Townsend for Rodriguez and 9m…….. If he's only got two years (and that'll effectively be 18 months by January) then you're entering into squeaky bum time. Do you take the risk of him running his contract down further or do you take what you can get? And the price will almost certainly go down along with the length of his contract.

Assuming he doesn't sign a new deal, It'll be interesting to see how much he goes for when they sell him. That'll give us an idea of which way around it might have been.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

That's fine, I'll take that as 'non sensationalist'

If it makes you feel better, feel free

 

[Disconosebleed]

Personally (IF it's true) I think that it was Townsend for Rodriguez and 9m…….. If he's only got two years (and that'll effectively be 18 months by January) then you're entering into squeaky bum time. Do you take the risk of him running his contract down further or do you take what you can get? And the price will almost certainly go down along with the length of his contract.

Assuming he doesn't sign a new deal, It'll be interesting to see how much he goes for when they sell him. That'll give us an idea of which way around it might have been.

I'm not sure what you're basing this on. He's only halfway through his contract, having massively increased his reputation over the past couple of years. Even if he got down to the last twelve months of his contract they could easily get £10m for him; with two years left, in today's market they could demand anywhere between £15-20m (possibly more if they are desperate to keep him, as shown with the mad overpricing on Schneiderlin), which would put their valuation of Townsend at £25m or more.

It is absolutely mad to suggest that Southampton would offer one of their star players (and a player they know we are desperate to sign) plus a substantial sum for a player they know we are willing to lose.

 

[yido_number1]

I'm not sure what you're basing this on. He's only halfway through his contract, having massively increased his reputation over the past couple of years. Even if he got down to the last twelve months of his contract they could easily get £10m for him; with two years left, in today's market they could demand anywhere between £15-20m (possibly more if they are desperate to keep him, as shown with the mad overpricing on Schneiderlin), which would put their valuation of Townsend at £25m or more.

It is absolutely mad to suggest that Southampton would offer one of their star players (and a player they know we are desperate to sign) plus a substantial sum for a player they know we are willing to lose.

His performances have certainly increased his value but his injury must have some impact on that price. Any player coming back from a serious injury would have doubts as to whether they will return to form. I find that a bit fanciable 9m plus JR but who knows. Townsend is a lot more valued outside the club than in it and with the HG player element I guess he is quite valuable.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I'm not sure what you're basing this on. He's only halfway through his contract, having massively increased his reputation over the past couple of years. Even if he got down to the last twelve months of his contract they could easily get £10m for him; with two years left, in today's market they could demand anywhere between £15-20m (possibly more if they are desperate to keep him, as shown with the mad overpricing on Schneiderlin), which would put their valuation of Townsend at £25m or more.

It is absolutely mad to suggest that Southampton would offer one of their star players (and a player they know we are desperate to sign) plus a substantial sum for a player they know we are willing to lose.

Well, i'm sort of basing it on nothing other than my opinion, same as you.

They won't be selling him with two years left on his contract. By January, he'll have the rest of this season and all of next. Effectively 18 months. And if they don't sell him then, it'll be down to 12 months left. If he don't sign a new deal they will blink first IMO.

I'm by no means certain that i'm right, I leave certainty to others, Me? I'm just a minge with an onion.

As I said, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

 

[Amo]

Well, i'm sort of basing it on nothing other than my opinion, same as you.

They won't be selling him with two years left on his contract. By January, he'll have the rest of this season and all of next. Effectively 18 months. And if they don't sell him then, it'll be down to 12 months left. If he don't sign a new deal they will blink first IMO.

I'm by no means certain that i'm right, I leave certainty to others, Me? I'm just a minge with an onion.

As I said, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Shit, you actually follow football?!?

Would never have guessed

 

[Huddlestone22]

I did actually ask him if he meant we offered 9m and Townsend but he was adamant it was the other way round. I've got a game with him this weekend so I'll see if I can get anything else.