Chadli - Can he be Kane's back up within the squad ?

[dannythomas]

The system we played at Leicester involved a lot of fluidity between Son and Chadli and while I don't think either one can effectively play up front on their own, that match showed signs that as a partnership they can be an option.

 

[Hotspur33]

I don't want to tempt fate, but we are all freaking out about something that might not happen.
Poch has been relatively sensible with Kane recently. Subbing him when possible. Not starting him against Leicester in the cup.
I don't know weather Son or Chadli will score more goals from a CF or WF position. But if they have to play CF then so be it.
I agree that Chadli is frustrating because he has an impressive physique and all the tools to be better than the performances he churns out. But maybe with the added competition for places or the chance to play up front and be the star for a while will make him pull his finger out.

 

[baldinyid]

Something about the way chadli plays when he has his eye on goal reminds me of Giroud....there I've said it! I'm not taking it back either!
Saying this (look, he's taking it back), it might just be that they are similar in physical attributes....the difference being one is an utter £&@"

 

[yido_number1]

I don't want to tempt fate, but we are all freaking out about something that might not happen.
Poch has been relatively sensible with Kane recently. Subbing him when possible. Not starting him against Leicester in the cup.
I don't know weather Son or Chadli will score more goals from a CF or WF position. But if they have to play CF then so be it.
I agree that Chadli is frustrating because he has an impressive physique and all the tools to be better than the performances he churns out. But maybe with the added competition for places or the chance to play up front and be the star for a while will make him pull his finger out.

His work rate isn't comparable to Lamela or Son but his contribution in goals and assists has out weighed both so far. I wouldn't say he needs to pull his finger out but being slightly more aware of when to close people and use his mass would make him a very good option up front.

 

[pablo73]

I agree with those who say that Chadli has a lot of the attributes required to play up front. However, if Poch has faith in Chadders as a striker why have we not seen him play up front, bar one time recently to the best of my recollection? Surely if he is seen as a viable striker option it would make sense to give him a few games up top, not only to rest Harry but also so he's more accustomed to the position if Kane were to get injured or lose form. I know he was injured for a while but in all the time Poch has been at the club I can only recall him playing Chadli up front once.

 

[dagraham]

Now that we haven't signed anyone Chadli is the best option we have in the lone striker role.

Son is a very good player, but doesn't have the physical attributes required and is wasted there. Everyone highlights the Leciecter cup game, but all Son's good work came in the WF or deep lying SS role.

 

[alex3]

Something about the way chadli plays when he has his eye on goal reminds me of Giroud....there I've said it! I'm not taking it back either!
Saying this (look, he's taking it back), it might just be that they are similar in physical attributes....the difference being one is an utter £&@"

I said that the other day too!

 

[degoose]

I think Chadli and Son can do a good job up top. The thing is we don't play with a target man or at least just one. Kane never stays in one place and floats from left to right pulling defenders out and you often see chadli,son,lamela or Alli fill the gap and moving into the box. So i think it can work just based on our system. If we did play a very stale simple 4231 then we would struggle but luckily we don't.

 

[brendanb50]

I agree with those who say that Chadli has a lot of the attributes required to play up front. However, if Poch has faith in Chadders as a striker why have we not seen him play up front, bar one time recently to the best of my recollection? Surely if he is seen as a viable striker option it would make sense to give him a few games up top, not only to rest Harry but also so he's more accustomed to the position if Kane were to get injured or lose form. I know he was injured for a while but in all the time Poch has been at the club I can only recall him playing Chadli up front once.

You've made some spot on points there; the main reason it boils down to IMO is the fact that he's not a lone striker. He has some useful attributes, but no more than Son to play up top really in terms of being a goal threat for us.

But let's not forget he's been injured (another reason he won't have featured up front or anywhere for a while!) and is now finding some form - so he could provide a great rotation option all the same.

I certainly don't think he'd be any less effective than Dembele if that deal had come off.

 

[dagraham]

I think Chadli and Son can do a good job up top. The thing is we don't play with a target man or at least just one. Kane never stays in one place and floats from left to right pulling defenders out and you often see chadli,son,lamela or Alli fill the gap and moving into the box. So i think it can work just based on our system. If we did play a very stale simple 4231 then we would struggle but luckily we don't.

You still need an out ball when under pressure though and we were forced to put Kane on against Leicester in the cup for this very reason.

 

[diamond lights]

I think we could have done with adding a player with Kane's attributes as an understudy however that player wasn't available.
The choice for Poch is to stick with what we have or add a player that might change the dynamic of the group. At different times this season in attacking periods of play we have had N'jie, Chadli, Kane, Son and Lamela as the furthest player forward. Take a group of eight players for our front 4 - Kane, Eriksen, Chadli, Son, Lamela, Dembele, Carroll and N'jie. We will play in any game 4 of them up top and the best spearhead is clearly Kane but if he is unavailable Poch will play another and expect movement and fluidity. I believe he prefers this option rather than adding a player that is not the right fit for the squad.
This is a positive move forward from the times we would have added bodies for the sake of it.

 

[degoose]

You still need an out ball when under pressure though and we were forced to put Kane on against Leicester in the cup for this very reason.

That's really based around Kane's awesome hold up play which not many players possess other than really world class players. Lets of people wanted Berahino and he certainly can't do what Kane can , he does add pace though but if you want something just like Kane then it's going to be a hard find.

 

[diamond lights]

I think we could have done with adding a player with Kane's attributes as an understudy however that player wasn't available.
The choice for Poch is to stick with what we have or add a player that might change the dynamic of the group. At different times this season in attacking periods of play we have had N'jie, Chadli, Kane, Son and Lamela as the furthest player forward. Take a group of eight players for our front 4 - Kane, Eriksen, Chadli, Son, Lamela, Dembele, Carroll and N'jie. We will play in any game 4 of them up top and the best spearhead is clearly Kane but if he is unavailable Poch will play another and expect movement and fluidity. I believe he prefers this option rather than adding a player that is not the right fit for the squad.
This is a positive move forward from the times we would have added bodies for the sake of it.

I didn't even mention Dele Alli.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

Can I just bump this in honour of Chadders??

For his goal return he really is unsung.

Easy goals or not, the guy is getting some really critical ones in.

Top man!

 

[beats1]

Can I just bump this in honour of Chadders??

For his goal return he really is unsung.

Easy goals or not, the guy is getting some really critical ones in.

Top man!

But can he be kane's back up?

The answer to that is No

Doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means he isn't a striker

 

[jezz]

But can he be kane's back up?

The answer to that is No

Doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means he isn't a striker

Why not?
Have we lost when he's played up front?

 

[Shadydan]

But can he be kane's back up?

The answer to that is No

Doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means he isn't a striker

That's obvious but the point is that he's producing the goods and coming up with vital goals to take the pressure off Kane. Never in a millions years is he going to be as good as Kane is in the striker role but he's scoring important goals and doing a great job.

 

[YiddoJames]

Impressive calm finish by him today

 

[beats1]

Why not?
Have we lost when he's played up front?

Just because we haven't lost doesn't mean we should carry on playing him

Look at united they continued to play memphis upfront and so far moving rashford to the first team has served them better

That's obvious but the point is that he's producing the goods and coming up with vital goals to take the pressure off Kane. Never in a millions years is he going to be as good as Kane is in the striker role but he's scoring important goals and doing a great job.

He is playing well but he is playing well as an AM especially coming off the bench

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

But can he be kane's back up?

The answer to that is No

Doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means he isn't a striker

What do you want from a back up striker? Main criterion? Goals and assists, right? Everything else is secondary - backup strikers must first and foremost score goals and create chances. On those grounds, I'd take Chadli any day over a new player who on paper *should* be a better fit.