Christian Eriksen

[robertgoulet]

Good post.
Just to clarify that in the UK, if you’ve survived a cardiac arrest without an obvious reversible cause (e.g. a heart attack from a blocked coronary artery or a very abnormal salt in your blood - usually potassium and a variety of other common causes), you get an ICD.

Given his happened out of the blue and we are not privvy to his medical history, he will most likely have an ICD for life.

There is a risk of his ICD firing but this is unpredictable and dependent on what may have contributed to his cardiac arrest in the first instance.

Some professional athletes are advised they simply have to stop playing by elite sports as it is cardiac stress that contributes to the risk of further cardiac arrest, but that seems unlikely as he’s been given the all clear to pursue a career. Daley Blind has an ICD inserted for a diagnosis of myocarditis and so shows you can still play at the highest level with a defibrillator and I hope Eriksen can do the same whether that’s with us or elsewhere.

Finally, being shocked by an ICD is no small thing. It can be extremely painful and can occasionally still lead to a loss of consciousness albeit transiently. The ICD will however try other things before defaulting to an actual shock to try and restore the heart’s normal rhythm if possible.

If Conte wants him and our medical team are satisfied, I would love to see him back although I am dubious as to whether he could reach his former heights again.

If I’m not mistaken, Blind’s ICD actually triggered during a match a year or two ago.

 

[$hoguN]

If we were to sign him, I guess we would want to agree a contract that can be terminated if he is unable to play without a significant financial penalty and is performance based.

All of that is background stuff though. If he is medically fit enough to resume a career and Conte believes he can add to the squad I don’t see why we wouldn’t.

The stuff about him being poor for 18 months is revisionism, he still made a significant contribution. Health concerns are there for medical experts to deal with.

 

[spurs mental]

We're massively short of creativity. Massively. We're creating more chances recently but we've played against some poor teams. I think he'd be a great addition even in the short term.

But to be honest I'd be happy to see him just play football again really, be it for us or someone else.

 

[McArchibald]

If I’m not mistaken, Blind’s ICD actually triggered during a match a year or two ago.

True, he was subbed off as a precaution and underwent another period of testing afterwards.
That resulted in an "all clear", and he has played many more matches since.

 

[Steffen]

I amazed people without medical degrees argue if it would be safe or not.
He has been cleared by doctors! Do you really think he would play if there was a big chance he would die?

Is there a risk? Of course, but as we have seen the last couple of years, all elite sports are a risk to the heart - no matter previous medical history.

 

[El Cakey]

Can’t we just wheel him out like an NFL kicker for set pieces?

 

[Russ1201]

Can’t we just wheel him out like an NFL kicker for set pieces?

Not corners tho?

 

[Metalhead]

As the ITK thread is the place to discuss Christian Eriksen, is this the right thread to discuss ITK?

 

[sausage]

Conte can’t have disliked him that much, as he started 26 Serie A matches in the 20/21 season they won the league. Started 4 of 6 in the Champions league that season. Stastically speaking that would seem to imply that Conte believed in his ability to ‘fight’ and ‘sacrifice’, otherwise why did he play him?

Fact check - no he didn't.

He started 17 matches that season (out of 38), and played 90 mins only 15 times (averaging 53 mins per app).

Spent most of his time at Inter rather irritated about the subject

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Antonio Conte insists Christian Eriksen has already had "many opportunities" to cement himself in the Inter side and will not consider a switch in position.

www.goal.com

Surely you can remember that we were linked to him the following season (Jan 2021 window) as he was basically dropped and told he could leave:

Christian Eriksen: Inter MIlan chief confirms ex-Tottenham midfielder is on the market in January

Inter Milan chief executive Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed Eriksen is on the market having struggled to break into Antonio Contes team. Sky Sports News expects him to leave on loan due to his high wages and having more than three years left on his contract

www.skysports.com

 

[18Klinsmann]

Fact check - no he didn't.

He started 17 matches that season (out of 38), and played 90 mins only 15 times (averaging 53 mins per app).

Spent most of his time at Inter rather irritated about the subject

No more Christian Eriksen talk, says exasperated Antonio Conte - TNT Sports

Inter Milan coach Antonio Conte is tired of talking about midfielder Christian Eriksen, he said on Saturday after the Dane gave another indifferent performance.

www.eurosport.co.uk

Christian Eriksen warns Inter coach Conte: 'I don't want to sit on the bench'

Christian Eriksen says he expects to get sufficient playing time at Inter Milan this season. Apparently, Spurs are watching...

www.football365.com

'Eriksen has had many opportunities' - Italian struggles not behind ex-Spurs star's Inter woes, says Conte | Goal.com

Antonio Conte insists Christian Eriksen has already had "many opportunities" to cement himself in the Inter side and will not consider a switch in position.

www.goal.com

Surely you can remember that we were linked to him the following season (Jan 2021 window) as he was basically dropped and told he could leave:

Christian Eriksen: Inter MIlan chief confirms ex-Tottenham midfielder is on the market in January

Inter Milan chief executive Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed Eriksen is on the market having struggled to break into Antonio Contes team. Sky Sports News expects him to leave on loan due to his high wages and having more than three years left on his contract

www.skysports.com

Yes. We were seemingly close to bringing him back when this happened
He was a much bigger part of the team after that derby day winner.

 

[mil1lion]

These arrests are often sudden. There are no warnings for half the cases, and outside of hospital you have a 8% chance of survival. He has been very lucky.
If you have one arrest, then you are more likely to have another...should you survive.

There doesn't seem to be a plan to remove the icd, so the medical opinion seems to be he needs it. And with it, contact sports are not advised. That is the bottom line really.

Someone raised the interesting question of other people accidentally getting shocked with an icd. And the internet says the icd would be harmless to them, as it gives an internal shock at much lower voltages than the external ones.
In fact, it is essential to carry on giving them cpr and apply an external aed if available, as it will not trigger if the internal one has done its job. The icd will not explode or anything if the aed decides it needs to shock. That's from the bhf.

Hopefully the icd interferes with the signal to the var room

 

[dtxspurs]

• If he comes it would be because Conte approved it
• He wouldn't cost a transfer fee
• He wouldn't cost much in wages
• He wouldn't play if he sucked in training/wasn't in shape
• There isn't another playmaker of his potential quality available in January
• He knows Conte & knows the premier league

There is zero downside.

 

[dtxspurs]

Not sure how you can watch today and not think Eriksen would be more likely to create a goal than Ndombele, Lo Celso, Dele, Gil, etc.

 

[chas vs dave]

Not sure how you can watch today and not think Eriksen would be more likely to create a goal than Ndombele, Lo Celso, Dele, Gil, etc.

I'd rather have Chris back. At least he will play for the shirt.

 

[rawhide]

• If he comes it would be because Conte approved it
• He wouldn't cost a transfer fee
• He wouldn't cost much in wages
• He wouldn't play if he sucked in training/wasn't in shape
• There isn't another playmaker of his potential quality available in January
• He knows Conte & knows the premier league

There is zero downside.

He might die…

 

[fortworthspur]

I amazed people without medical degrees argue if it would be safe or not.
He has been cleared by doctors! Do you really think he would play if there was a big chance he would die?

Is there a risk? Of course, but as we have seen the last couple of years, all elite sports are a risk to the heart - no matter previous medical history.

he's at higher risk, dont kid yourself. as to whether its safe, its unclear. I posted a link to a manuscript a ways back.

 

[TropicalYid]

Eriksen is undoubtedly one of our best players in the last years.
I Conte wants him sign him. If not then I cant see anyone forcing eriksen in.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Fact check - no he didn't.

He started 17 matches that season (out of 38), and played 90 mins only 15 times (averaging 53 mins per app).

Spent most of his time at Inter rather irritated about the subject

No more Christian Eriksen talk, says exasperated Antonio Conte - TNT Sports

Inter Milan coach Antonio Conte is tired of talking about midfielder Christian Eriksen, he said on Saturday after the Dane gave another indifferent performance.

www.eurosport.co.uk

Christian Eriksen warns Inter coach Conte: 'I don't want to sit on the bench'

Christian Eriksen says he expects to get sufficient playing time at Inter Milan this season. Apparently, Spurs are watching...

www.football365.com

'Eriksen has had many opportunities' - Italian struggles not behind ex-Spurs star's Inter woes, says Conte | Goal.com

Antonio Conte insists Christian Eriksen has already had "many opportunities" to cement himself in the Inter side and will not consider a switch in position.

www.goal.com

Surely you can remember that we were linked to him the following season (Jan 2021 window) as he was basically dropped and told he could leave:

Christian Eriksen: Inter MIlan chief confirms ex-Tottenham midfielder is on the market in January

Inter Milan chief executive Giuseppe Marotta has confirmed Eriksen is on the market having struggled to break into Antonio Contes team. Sky Sports News expects him to leave on loan due to his high wages and having more than three years left on his contract

www.skysports.com

???
It is hilarious how hard you have worked to prove me wrong. Is it a personal thing? I commend the effort.

I was going by transfrmrkt stats. Obviously misinterpreted. So, thank you for the thorough clarification. And my most sincere apologies for the egregious error. Dyslexia rears its ylgu head again!

So, I stand corrected. Clearly, Conte didn’t like him all that much. Or, liked him 50% of the time!

 

[sausage]

???
It is hilarious how hard you have worked to prove me wrong. Is it a personal thing? I commend the effort.

I was going by transfrmrkt stats. Obviously misinterpreted. So, thank you for the thorough clarification. And my most sincere apologies for the egregious error. Dyslexia rears its ylgu head again!

So, I stand corrected. Clearly, Conte didn’t like him all that much. Or, liked him 50% of the time!

It wasn't much effort at all, I just bothered to check something before typing it ?‍

 

[whitesocks]

True, he was subbed off as a precaution and underwent another period of testing afterwards.
That resulted in an "all clear", and he has played many more matches since.

An icd can also be implanted to correct arrhythmias. No-one has ever revealed blind has had a cardiac arrest at any point. Or is at high risk of one. The doctors know exactly why he is having these problems and his risk is being managed.

Worse case if the device was damaged during a game, then blind's life would probably not be at immediate risk if he also then had another arrhythmia event.

I think it reasonable to think that these cases are significantly different and therefore are not necessarily a good guide for what Eriksen should/could do.