Could we have had a stab at the title this year?

[mattyspurs]

Fuck me @Mr Pink I got your point the first time!!! It got very head teacherish after the 3rd lecture!!

 

[Mr Pink]

Fuck me @Mr Pink I got your point the first time!!! It got very head teacherish after the 3rd lecture!!

don't know what happened with my phone there lol

bloody thing!

 

[scat1620]

if Eriksen creates ten gaols next season

Who is he, Jeremy Wright MP?

[/Archer]

 

[mattyspurs]

If only Bale and his agent had held to their alleged initial promises to sign a new contract I believe that this Premier League season would have taken on a very different shape. Not just because we'd still have Bale but because Suarez would be at Real Madrid right now. The only thing that stopped that move from happening was Bale imo.

I actually think that bale would have given us another year, but Madrid called Barnetts bluff with the 'This year or nothing' call, and Barnett wanted his payday

 

[Mr Pink]

To be fair Athetico sold Falcao and Roma sold Lamela and Marquinos for megabucks and both are doing pretty swimmingly this season.

You can sell a star player, if you have a plan, but with hindsight, ours was fundamentally flawed.

Almost no club in the world could turn down £85m.

Oh, for sure. But we always do it, that's the difference.

 

[idontgetit]

If Bale had never been sold maybe Southampton would be winning the Premier League this year

 

[felmani26]

Well we were joint top at one stage this season

.....along with 19 other clubs.

 

[parklane1]

Come on mate, I know you are disillusioned, we all are, but you know full well that John Henry only recieved one bid for Suarez, and that was from a rival. Had he recieved anything like a bid like we did for Bale from a team outside the Prem, he would have sold him.

It's very easy to play up to your fans by saying that Suarez won't be sold when he's not recieving any decent bids for him.

Indeed this old chesnut about Suarez is a load of shit, if L'pool had been offered 85 mill he would be playing elsewhere, i am amazed that some think they would have turned that down.

 

[parklane1]

If Bale had never been sold maybe Southampton would be winning the Premier League this year

Indeed, ifs and buts.

 

[markieboy]

Looking at Liverpool's impressive season so far, I can't help but get frustrated thinking that we should be up there, challenging for the title this season.

If we had have kept our world-class player for one more season, like Liverpool did theirs, brought in Eriksen and (crucially) let AVB buy a couple of his own players, we may have been looking at our first league title in 50-odd years.

What do you guys think?

Sorry but whose players did he buy?
I was under the impression that he agreed to all the signings and that he was happy with all the players we bought in the summer as well as Holtby in January.

 

[idontgetit]

What players did AVB want who we could actually afford and would come to us? Hulk, Moutinho, Falcao lol? Even then if we signed them they'd have to spend a year on the bench getting used to the speed of not playing in the prem

 

[markieboy]

What players did AVB want who we could actually afford and would come to us? Hulk, Moutinho, Falcao lol? Even then if we signed them they'd have to spend a year on the bench getting used to the speed of not playing in the prem

He may as well have asked for Yaya Toure,Steven Gerrard and Robin van Persie.
Lets hope the next manager doesn't think we are Chelsea.

 

[sunnydelight786]

Our highest points total for a 38 game season is 72 (last season). LFC surpassed that with 5 games still to play and EFC are on course to beat that total too. Truth is our bunch of legends don't have it in them to put up any kind of challenge.

It still infuriates me that our side of 2011-12 blew it big time from the new year onwards. We really were in a position to kick on and put in a proper challenge but like usual bottled it. We can't use Europe as a excuse as we were knocked out at Xmas. What a cluster fuck of a season that ended up being.

 

[Spurger King]

Come on mate, I know you are disillusioned, we all are, but you know full well that John Henry only recieved one bid for Suarez, and that was from a rival. Had he recieved anything like a bid like we did for Bale from a team outside the Prem, he would have sold him.

It's very easy to play up to your fans by saying that Suarez won't be sold when he's not recieving any decent bids for him.

I'm not convinced Levy didn't go out of his way to offer Bale to Madrid. I have no confidence in him at all now, and don't see any point in getting attached to players like Eriksen as I'm sure we'll be looking to turn a profit on him a year from now.

 

[mattyspurs]

I'm not convinced Levy didn't go out of his way to offer Bale to Madrid. I have no confidence in him at all now, and don't see any point in getting attached to players like Eriksen as I'm sure we'll be looking to turn a profit on him a year from now.

What about the supposed late bid from Utd though? Had it been all about the money he would have accepted that surely? It was much bigger by all accounts? Madrid and Barnett engineered the move and Bale got his head turned. In my opinion obviously

 

[Hoddtastic72]

Looking at Liverpool's impressive season so far, I can't help but get frustrated thinking that we should be up there, challenging for the title this season.

If we had have kept our world-class player for one more season, like Liverpool did theirs, brought in Eriksen and (crucially) let AVB buy a couple of his own players, we may have been looking at our first league title in 50-odd years.

What do you guys think?

Maybe if Ledley kept playing a bit longer and we kept Bale, Modric and VDV.

 

[parklane1]

What about the supposed late bid from Utd though? Had it been all about the money he would have accepted that surely? It was much bigger by all accounts? Madrid and Barnett engineered the move and Bale got his head turned. In my opinion obviously

This, Utd offered more money but Levy would not sell to any club in the UK, as for Levy offering Bale to Madrid well that is rubbish.

 

[Metalhead]

Liverpool's success has been predominantly down to the lovely blend that have with their front 4 players. They have the exceptional partnership of Suarez and Sturridge. And in Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling a really lovely blend - so much pace, passing ability and movement there. Gerrard holds and keeps it all together.

Suarez has been a better player this season than Bale was last season, and he's more of a team player. What has struck me most about him recently is he is actually incredibly good at holding the ball up and initiating a quick counter with a quick dribble or pass. Plus the refs seem to buy his every dive, whilst Bale would get booked when he is legitimately fouled.

We'd get more injuries than they have had all season (most notably, the same back 4 almost every game)

We'd have a partnership of Bale and himself, and our blend wouldn't be as good as theirs, with only Bale and Eriksen making runs or finding the passes.

So we'd probably make top 4, but the football gods would never let us challenge for the title until we are better than good enough to do so.

Liverpool have really only had the league to concentrate on this season. I'll be interested to see how they do next season.

 

[Shea]

I think we had a squad as good as Liverpool so yes - we perhaps lack the leadership they have in Gerrard and the cutting edge they have in Suarez/Sturridge (though a lot of that is failure of management to get our best players playing to their best imo) but I think the main difference between us and them this year was the management

They had a man who moulded them into a unit better than the sum of their parts and capable of ripping teams apart while we had AVB who completely stifled us and made us reliant on BAle and Lloris and after he was sacked we basically gave up on the season and gave a man with no experience the job instead of doing whatever we needed to do to get someone who could have saved the season in

I can only hope that the reason we went for Sherwood after the whole AVB fuck up is because Levy finally knows what he is doing but was only able to exercute some master plan in the summer - I really hope there is some method to the madness now Baldini is involved and in the summer in terms of our recuirtment both mangerial and playing staff to complete our unit we already know what we are going to do and are not like we have always seemed to be doing under Levy going to wing it at the last min with no real vision of where we are taking the club (other than securing assets to increase in value ahead of assets to complete the team unit)

 

[beats1]

We certainly would have had a better chance of winning it than we did by (yet again) selling our star player. Must be nice being a Liverpool fan and following a club with ambitions of success.

We're just a well oiled player exchange business. A business I'm rapidly losing interest in after 25 years of unwavering support.

Indeed Im sick of swapping our Charizard shiny for a Pikachu, Jigglypuff and a Charmeleon