Gareth Bale (Rumour to Deal Done)

[tiger666]

True about the contract. When a player signs a 4/5/6 year deal they should know exactly what they are getting themselves into, they should EXPECT to see the contract out. He cannot sulk as he signed the deal with his own hand.

Levy holds every card in this game, he can set what ever price he wishes as it is his asset. And I believe he will only sell of the situation suits us (by the way I'm expecting bale to go, I'm not holding hope!).

And you are spot on about Perez, he may be setting himself up for a fool. If they don't get Bale now what a twat he will look! Perez really has to pay what Levy wants, end of. He will not accept anything lower than what he wants.


Others have mentioned this, but could it be Mourinho is trying to scupper the Bale to Madrid deal? Could he have gone in for Willian knowing that he was one of the Bale replacements? It could be more that than just buying him to piss us off. You never know with Mourinho!!!

Except he wasn't.

 

[sundanceyid10]

To put it lightly, I'm afraid of what happens if we keep Bale on when he wants to leave, simply because we set too high a price for him. What happens if, in a few years, he hasn't signed a contract extension and we end up letting him go for half or less of what he is worth now? There's a correct time for any transfer to get the most value out of it, and as far as I am concerned, that time is now. If Bale still hasn't signed the rumoured contract extension by the summer transfer window, we can pretty much set in stone that he wants to leave. And if that is the case, the longer we try to extort ridiculous prices out of him, the less we will eventually get in the end.

If Levy makes him stay he will play and do his best I believe, he would have too. At the end of the day he is a professional footballer contracted to the club. We have to be 100% hardball on this and I am sure Levy will be, I think he would force Bale to stay if the deal is not completely in our interests. What is the point if we don't stand up for whats best for us, we may as well just give up.

 

[Learn2Eel]

If Levy makes him stay he will play and do his best I believe, he would have too. At the end of the day he is a professional footballer contracted to the club. We have to be 100% hardball on this and I am sure Levy will be, I think he would force Bale to stay if the deal is not completely in our interests. What is the point if we don't stand up for whats best for us, we may as well just give up.

Oh I agree, I think Bale is a class person and will give his all whilst he is here. Still, I just hope that playing hard-ball doesn't end up with us losing out on 10 million plus. Ultimately, I don't really think any player is worth more than 60 million pounds - the fees being paid nowadays are utterly ludicrous.

 

[aldarion]

As I posted the other day, Madrid has two big loan instalments to repay its bankers (Santander and Caja Madrid) in 2014 and 2015 unless they have managed to renegotiate. The problem of staged payments over 4 years is that they could be proposing 1 + 1 + 20 + 64 = 86m. I know I'm exaggerating to make the point. But 86m back-ended is useless to us. But knocking off 16m for cash = 70m is a hell of a discount, especially if a player is thrown in at an expensive valuation.

Some may have missed your long, informative post from thurs morning, as it seemed to get buried amongst the fervour surrounding Willian. Are you still under the impression that RM are struggling for finance? COYS.

 

[CowInAComa]

Except he wasn't.

In your opinion.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Real have given us two options? How generous.

How about we give them two options: pay up, what we want, and in the intallments we want them in, or fuck off.

 

[Learn2Eel]

Except he wasn't.

I'm not so sure about that. Willian, from what I can tell, plays in a free-roaming position between the wings and the centre, very similar to how Gareth plays now. To be fair, if we sold Bale, I would expect both Willian and Lamela to have been our "Bale replacements".

 

[Spurs 1961]

By the way, I prefer we set the prices as well. I'm just saying that I think 70 million pounds up front in a single payment is a more than acceptable deal.

To put it lightly, I'm afraid of what happens if we keep Bale on when he wants to leave, simply because we set too high a price for him. What happens if, in a few years, he hasn't signed a contract extension and we end up letting him go for half or less of what he is worth now? There's a correct time for any transfer to get the most value out of it, and as far as I am concerned, that time is now. If Bale still hasn't signed the rumoured contract extension by the summer transfer window, we can pretty much set in stone that he wants to leave. And if that is the case, the longer we try to extort ridiculous prices out of him, the less we will eventually get in the end.

Just the opinion of a young Spurs fan that wants what is best for the club. Unless Bale progresses even further in the next season, I can't see us getting this high a price for him again, not with the FFP coming into play.

Bale can't afford to sit around and mop for three years. He can't afford to put in poor performances or will go down as a one season wonder. We sell if the price is right and if we get the players we want otherwise he stays and is a squad player. If nothing else Spurs will make money out of sponsors etc attracted by him...this is what RM know they will get over the next few years so why shouldn't we have it to help build our stadium

 

[sundanceyid10]

And you are spot on about Perez, he may be setting himself up for a fool. If they don't get Bale now what a twat he will look! Perez really has to pay what Levy wants, end of. He will not accept anything lower than what he wants.

Thats the thing that keeps being missed in all this, the Real Madrid fans dont care about Levy and Spurs they just want what Perez has promised, they have zero patience Madrid fans, Perez has build a media frenzy in Spain based on Bale coming to Madrid and if he can't deliver it would but a galactic fail on his part. If I was Levy I would shift the goal posts full amount or world class players in return. We dont operate as a Spanish charity organisation.

 

[CowInAComa]

I'm not so sure about that. Willian, from what I can tell, plays in a free-roaming position between the wings and the centre, very similar to how Gareth plays now. To be fair, if we sold Bale, I would expect both Willian and Lamela to have been our "Bale replacements".

Yes. To me, us thinking we were getting Willian and Lamela was the catalyst for potentially accepting a Madrid bid.

Willian not signing and Lamela still not done should prompt a review of the situation and a halt to current talks.

 

[Learn2Eel]

Bale can't afford to sit around and mop for three years. He can't afford to put in poor performances or will go down as a one season wonder. We sell if the price is right and if we get the players we want otherwise he stays and is a squad player. If nothing else Spurs will make money out of sponsors etc attracted by him...this is what RM know they will get over the next few years so why shouldn't we have it to help build our stadium

That's my point though. Everyone knows his talent and if he all of a sudden has a form slip or doesn't play regularly everyone will automatically assume it is because he is trying to force a move to Madrid, true or not. And even if that isn't a factor, his dwindling contract certainly will be if we set our price too high.

 

[Moonie]

Except he wasn't.

Thanks for the constructive answer.

Willian is a winger/attacking midfielder. Bale is a winger/attacking midfielder. They can both play on the wings, they can both operate behind a striker.

We are NEVER going to replace him like for like, every player is different. And I said ONE of the replacements, I.e Willian and Lamela (hopefully) it has been well documented we want replacements in before sanctioning the Bale deal. IF we don't get who we want in time, this could scupper the Bale deal.

So *RASP!*

 

[aldarion]

We arent a fucking charity. If the situation has fluctuated to a degree that selling Bale weakens us and our replacements arent done and dusted, then fuck Madrid off and fuck him off.

We arent here to make Gareth Bale happy or to promote his career.

I dont care whether the monkeyboy stays or goes now, i have no attachment to him. I just care that we get the best of the situation whichever way it falls, at the moment we dont benefit from selling him so i wouldnt. If we make some headway with targets then that will change things - if not then take no risks, we dont need to.

I whole heartedly agree with what you say, but you weaken your point with name-calling. Why spoil an excellent post?

 

[Gedson100]

I agree with much of what you say, but the only issue is he hasn't had to come out and say anything because we were/are quite open to the idea of receiving £100m for him - Daniel Levy has been as quiet as GB...... I am pretty sure he was more vocal that neither Berbatov nor Modric were for sale...........

We weren't initially looking to sell, it's only been since it became apparent that he wanted to go and wasn't going to sign a new contract. Levy would be crazy to just sit on things and not try and work out a deal when his chief asset could be running down his contract & his value depreciating all the time.

I think Levy learnt that with Modric, he could maybe have got £40m in 2011 and settled for a staggered £26.6m in 2012.
He'll not miss out like that again.

 

[$hoguN]

If the Beeb are correct about the two deals on offer we should tell them to get f**ked, neither are great.

 

[Learn2Eel]

Yes. To me, us thinking we were getting Willian and Lamela was the catalyst for potentially accepting a Madrid bid.

Willian not signing and Lamela still not done should prompt a review of the situation and a halt to current talks.

I agree. I still think 70 million is a great offer, but if we don't have the replacements lined up, we shouldn't accept it. With the work Baldini has been doing though, I'd be pretty confident in his ability to sign some great players to fill the gap even in such a short space of time. We will know the outcome pretty soon though; I'm assuming Bale will stay if we don't hear anything in the next two days.

 

[portogirl]

Thats the thing that keeps being missed in all this, the Real Madrid fans dont care about Levy and Spurs they just want what Perez has promised, they have zero patience Madrid fans, Perez has build a media frenzy in Spain based on Bale coming to Madrid and if he can't deliver it would but a galactic fail on his part. If I was Levy I would shift the goal posts full amount or world class players in return. We dont operate as a Spanish charity organisation.

The over exposure/manipulation by Marca has forced Perez into a corner where he is now face to face with his own ego...DL is smiling. Perez may not be able to afford the price but more importantly he cannot afford not to deliver.

 

[CowInAComa]

I whole heartedly agree with what you say, but you weaken your point with name-calling. Why spoil an excellent post?

I have taken to refering to him as the monkeyboy. sometimes the welsh gimp.

i refer to people in a derogative way if i dont hold them in any high respect, im a dick like that, but its my prerogative.

 

[sundanceyid10]

The over exposure/manipulation by Marca has forced Perez into a corner where he is now face to face with his own ego...DL is smiling. Perez may not be able to afford the price but more importantly he cannot afford not to deliver.

100% and I think Perez knows this, they created the Spanish media storm, you reap what you sow... and Levy should harvest!

 

[Indisguise]

Sir Bill on COYS

Listen, I have heard on the grapevine that Madrid will pay a record fee for Bale BUT they will inform the press that the figure will be less than Ronaldo's so that he doesn't get his knickers in a twist.

Seems as though that is the case from the latest reports.