I love our Chairman

[StockSpur]

on a positive note, arsenal havent strengthened and they re-signed walcott lol and liverpool shipped out carrol on loan and jay spearings gone to bolton for 6 mths.

there is still a 3rd or 4th place to play for this season.

 

[Legend10]

Best new training ground in Europe.
New shiny stadium on the way.
Does business by the book.
We are financially strong.

We are lucky, very lucky. I'm not overly excited by all of our signings, but it's a solid window. Anyone who can sign Lloris for 8 mil is just incredible considering how tough Aulas is.

Support the manager now please.

Agree 110% except for the last line which I would change to:

Support the club now please, that includes the manager and players!

 

[StockSpur]

try and put it into perspective, how many luka modric types are there to replace him with that dont cost 30 million plus and want 120k a week basic? moutinho isnt worth that kind of money is he?

i just see vdvd as another robbie keane but more injury prone and more inclined to sulk if thats possible, politically he had to go.

 

[shelfmonkey]

For God's sake. What's the point?

How dispiriting. How soul-sapping.

How sad.

In a nutshell, after another over hyped transfer window!!

 

[TheGreenLily]

Some of the posting on here tonight has been nothing short of embarrassing tbh. I cannot believe how short sighted a lot of spurs fans are, like spoilt children who didn't get what they demanded for Xmas.

Short sighted, I think you miss the point of what most are complaining about.

It is not the fact that we are complaining like spoilt little children, it's the fact that once again we have enter a defining season with a new manager who is developing a new system and new methods... and in order to maintain a challenge to keep us "fickle spoiled children" happy need to purchase key players in key positions, some of which have simply not been addressed.

We have an unbalanced team, with no real depth, we are going to be very very lucky if we challenge for anything this season. The longer we go without players in key positions the more expensive and hard it will be to fill those positions as teams will just simply hold us to random.

I for one wont be calling for AVB's head come the end of the season, I already know when the damage was done.

How stupid can one person be, leaving players in key positions right till the very end. Even if it costs us a an extra mill or two.

I totally agree with OP, we have to e thankful for having a chairman who contrary to belief quite clearly lives and breathes spurs and is trying to create a truly top club. It's just a shame he doesn't get the recognition he deserves for the amazing job he does with such a small budget compared to others.

He has done wonders for the club, and I share his vision, but what I don't share is the numerous numbers of fuck ups in the transfer window that constantly leave the balance and depth all over the place.


I think what some people forget is that the money earnt from the deals such as carrick, Berbs, Modric and VDV are all down to levy and his astute eye in the market. And the fact that we have a team competing the way it is is because he has been able to sell and make enormous profit on these players even when they are on strike therefore making your hand weaker!

The money earnt has not gone anywhere, Where is Berbatov's replacement 4-5 years on?

Where is VDV replacement?

Where is modric's replacement?

Where is the competition for the wingers?

We have had some great signings this season and done some great business, but it has all been undone to address problems in key areas

Thanks DL for what you are doing, I for one fully appreciate the mammoth task you have.

Everyone appreciates the hard work he has done, but he has to stop shooting himself foot every bloody transfer window as it will ultimately cluster fuck all that hard work

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[shelfmonkey]

try and put it into perspective, how many luka modric types are there to replace him with that dont cost 30 million plus and want 120k a week basic? moutinho isnt worth that kind of money is he?

i just see vdvd as another robbie keane but more injury prone and more inclined to sulk if thats possible, politically he had to go.

They are out there at a fraction of the cost, we are just unable, not good enough (in terms of our scouting) at finding them. Other clubs find them, why don't we?

 

[StockSpur]

I know I know, its bleacher, but give it a read;

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-major-winners-of-the-summer-transfer-window

 

[danielneeds]

Look, Levy has put the club on a strong financial footing, as always, and moving into the new training centre next week is massive, probably as important as any signing could have been. If he does find funding for the stadium in the next year or so, then he will have accomplished something monumental.

I just feel that AVB hasn't been given the tools to put his stamp on the squad. The balance in the midfield looks wrong to me, and we didn't bring in forward players vital to make his preferred 433 work. We all shudder to think what will happen if Ade goes down with a serious injury too.

That said, I think Lloris and Vertonghen will be great signings, and we look strong in defence.

 

[bobby_stills]

Perversely, like many others, despite what is likely to prove a good transfer window, I can’t help but feel deflated. Yet another window of big names and ITK that doesn’t come to fruition.

Nevertheless, the reality is it is incredible that we have been in contention for top for with our wage structure and net expenditure. In fact, with all the outgoings we have probably made a profit this window.

Yes we again have not signed a world class player but I remember the 90’s years of literally less than mid table mediocrity. If we continue develop and build our infrastructure – new world class training facility, state of the art 58,000 stadium (with atmosphere) and continue to sign good moderately priced* players like we have this window, then we should be happy and Levy should be lauded for this.

*relatively

 

[sim0n]

There's probably a lot of drunk people on here tonight hence the tantrums. I'm pissed off about VdV, although if he wanted to go we can't really balme anybody except his missus byt the sounds of it. I mean was he really pushed?

I do feel optimistic overall:

1- don't care about a new stadium, love the old, ratty WHL - has history and character - 4 realz
2- Spurs don't have an oil oligarch running the team, so I think that's where the "running the team (business stability) by the book" comes from - we are not concerned that Spurs will do a "Leeds"
3- training ground is top class so as to not scare top players away - good enough
4- I did not add up the transfers, but I think more transfer money came in than went out (good business - the chairman is a businessman)

Okay, not over the moon with VDV out, but that was AVB - writing was on the wall the day he arrived. So, the overall creativity of the squad went down but that's not a direct indication that the team will not be as or more successful. Just some of my perspective here, but I felt that the transfer fee requested for Moutinho was way too high (as did many others), so not signing him is fine with me. This is not my position but for ll of you who love Scottie Parker, where was he gonna play when Moutinho arrived? Pretty congested CM area. Someone mentioned no cover for the wings and LD. But it's there - Naughton plays LD, Dempsey can play on both wings, Dembele can play on the right - so can Siggi, and it looks like Townsend did not get loaned out. Striker is a bit of the same, Ade is the only traditional target man, but there's Defoe (would need to adjust the formation as we all know when he plays), Dempsey, and Dembele who can play up front. Nothing is perfect, but things are not gloom and doom.

Now, the 4 keepers comment is interesting. Clearly AVB wanted Lloris right out of the gate when he arrived. Okay, can't shift #1 Friedel, no one wants Cudicini, and Gomes is still recovering from a long term injury. So, do you not go get Lloris just because you'll nd up with 4 keepers? C'mon now, that's a bit of a silly point.

There is a lot more flexibility with the players in the squad now which is a positive change. I loved VDV, but with his hamstrings it looks like 90 minutes was just not gonna happen frequently.

Overall, looks like there will be plenty of money during the winter transfer window to sort anything out - whether AVB is the manager there or not at that stage remains to be seen. Money available for new players is always a big draw for top managers,... or a Genius asst manager to step up and use

Either way, Levy has done his job, so now it's time for AVB and the players to theirs -- COYS!!!!!

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

All perspective.

Our Stadium is just a patch of waste land.
He has now been accused of lying and renegging on deals multiple times.
We're £40million in debt.

 

[punky]

I love our chairman, and always supported him vocally.

However, he's fucked up here tonight. I don't blame him for not tying up Leandro and Willian but to wait a few hours before the window closes to tie up our most crucial signing only to find the personal terms are unrealistic and it is complicated by third party ownership, and now find out we missed out by 4 minutes, is a fuck up.

I don't want him out or anything stupid like that but I can't lie, he has fucked up here.

 

[sim0n]

I love our chairman, and always supported him vocally.

However, he's fucked up here tonight. I don't blame him for not tying up Leandro and Willian but to wait a few hours before the window closes to tie up our most crucial signing only to find the personal terms are unrealistic and it is complicated by third party ownership, and now find out we missed out by 4 minutes, is a fuck up.

I don't want him out or anything stupid like that but I can't lie, he has fucked up here.

I am not over the moon with Moutinho to begin with and 22 mil is stupid money for him IMHO -- in my perspective this might be ridiculous transfer avoided,.... it's a crowded CM at Spurs right now and there's always the winter window for a fresh bid...

 

[lillywhites61]

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I've not said everyone is behaving like spoilt children but some people and their post have been embarrassing. I also said a few times I am as frustrated as others that we couldn't strengthen in some of the key areas that would have certainly been beneficial.

But like I also said in different threads we are a business like it or not, this is how football is run these days, it's hard to accept for lots of reasons, but we are where we are due to the way we are run, by buying with total disregard as we did in the past it nearly cost us the club. I remember those times vividly and personally I would rather we try and build slowly and in a way that we won't be in that situations again.

The side looks unbalanced, I think we could have done with some players in certain positions that will certainly have helped this but I also think we bought some very versatile players that will be able to play in different positions and imo it won't be as imbalanced as it first appears.

I hope that we have a good season as everyone else does, for all we know both shaktar and Porto made the deals impossible and had upped the prices to an unrealistic point. We don't know either way. We have quite clearly tried hard to make some of the deals happen but to no avail. We were gazumped by Chelsea for both Hazard and Oscar, and when they came in with their insane wages there was only going to be one winner.

My only main issue over the past few windows has been the striker position, but I do think we have tried, our issue is we have got ourselves into a position now as a club whereby we need a top calibre of player, but to get them you need the means to pay them. We can't quite do it without risking a lot.

So I wasn't slagging a lot of people off as I understand the frustration however some have behaved that way in my eyes.

 

[rez9000]

Are you suggesting that Levy sold Modric and VdV for the purpose of making a profit? I remembered the club sold them as Modric wanted to leave to join Real and VdV left for family reasons.
We are building for long term and we still have a strong squad. Lloris and Vertonghen are world class siginngs. Ade is also a very good catch. Finally Dempsey will be our backup striker and he has shown the last two seasons that he is capable of doing a decent job. He is an upgrade to Defoe.

What's the matter with you Eric? Of course they were sold for profit and not the rational, logical, factual reasons you've laid out.

Don't you know how hard it is to pursue an agenda or grind an axe if you allow facts to enter your argument.

Jeez Louise, man!

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Rez, do you not appreciate why some people aren't so happy with the way this window has been dealt with?

We've left the window having made a profit but also having lost our creative lynchpin and best player. The new manager that Levy himself hand picked to bring in identified his perfect replacement who wanted to come and we didn't buy him. But we have made a profit. This is not how you back a new manager.

Surely you can see why some people are upset?

 

[wizgell]

I don't get peoples issues with strength in depth.
GK: Four goalkeepers, 3 of which are internationals, one has won major honours
RB: Englands RB & Kyle Naughton who has shown he can be a decent back up
CB: Kaboul, Vertonghen, Caulker, Dawson and Gallas
LB: BAE, with cover if necessary from Bale, Vertonghen, Townsend...
Midfield: Sandro, Dembele, Sigurdsson, Huddlestone, Parker, Livermore, Lennon, Bale etc
Strikers: Ade, JD and Dempsey (which isn't too disimilar to what we had last year) #

Ok so we probaly could've done with one more striker but then in 3/4 months time we would have the issue of an established striker wanting out due to a lack of game time.

 

[bungle]

All perspective.

Our Stadium is just a patch of waste land.
He has now been accused of lying and renegging on deals multiple times.
We're £40million in debt.

Be interested to know how you arrive at that figure.

We appear to have made money from most of the past half dozen windows or so, so even allowing for increased wages (offset to some degree by squad reduction) and CL bonuses, we are unlikely to be that far into the red if at all.

 

[rez9000]

Rez, do you not appreciate why some people aren't so happy with the way this window has been dealt with?

We've left the window having made a profit but also having lost our creative lynchpin and best player. The new manager that Levy himself hand picked to bring in identified his perfect replacement who wanted to come and we didn't buy him. But we have made a profit. This is not how you back a new manager.

Surely you can see why some people are upset?

Rout-Ledge, I most certainly can understand some people being upset. As I said earlier, I can understand pessimism and even welcome it.

What we've seen in response to this transfer window, though, is an almost overriding wave of utter negativity. And it seems to be the same few people who are always grinding their particular axe, i.e. the Daniel Levy is the pantomime villain lot.

Add to that the thing that seems to get lost in translation - that this is an arena to debate, not rant.

The occasional rant is not a problem - it can spark debate. But all I've seen from 11:00 last night is screed after screed after screed.

I've not seen any threads that start with something like, "I think this transfer window has been less than successful and these are the reasons why I think that:"

No, it's all been "Daniel Levy out!", "Levy has fucked our club", "Levy has torn our team to pieces", "Levy was responsible for 9/11".

Maybe not that last one, but the proportionality has been almost as bad.

If one is disappointed, I don't have the right to tell them not to be disappointed. I have a duty to try and make them feel better, because they're Spurs fans like me. I also have the right to tell them that they are damaging the club with their constant attacks against the chairman. No matter what mistakes he has made (and I've thrown in my own humble criticism when I believe he has) it can't be denied that since he took over this club, we have become better.

But some people refuse to acknowledge that. They will only see the mistakes, or rather what they think are mistakes. In their mind, only Levy is responsible for things. No one else.

Player A didn't sign for us? Levy's fault, even though the player wanted to be paid three times more than our highest earner.

Player B left? Levy's fault, even though the player's family all hate London and he was miserable here.

Player C bought by another club? Levy' fault, even though the player had been agitating for a move for three years.

Player D wasn't bought? Levy's fault, even though the selling club changed the asking price four times and then refused to negotiate.

But then the triumphs are swept under the carpet.

Who got VDV in in the first place? Who bent Man U, Real Madrid and Liverpool (when they were still one of the Top 4) over a barrel and extracted the maximum money out of them when they stole our players? Who told Chelsea to fuck off back to Stamford Bridge when they cam in for Modric last year?

Levy is a wise man. He knows that in these days of player power, if a club like Man U or Real come in for a player, there's little one can do, so he screws them for the money, so at least Spurs get something out of the deal. But no, that makes him a money-grubber. Never mind that the money goes back into the club.

Never mind that he's done everything to get us a new stadium. People think that he should have gone to Stadiums R Us in Brent Cross, because that's where stadia come from, right? Never mind that Haringey Council have been dangling us on a string for God knows how many years and it wasn't until he started talking about the Olympic stadium that they finally cottoned on that this man is serious and started talking about the infrastructure problems and the planning permission needed.

And they speak with such certainty. It's not "I think that maybe Levy is trying to steal or our money and this is why". It's "LEVY'S A THIEF! FACT!" as if putting the word "FACT" at the end of one's preposterous statement lends it some credibility.

Levy has done so much for this club. He deserves recognition and praise. We may have hit a few bumps along the way, but he's steered us well. Where were we without him? Languishing in mid-table with Sugar pulling the strings. The same Sugar who thought that Dennis Bergkamp wasn't worth buying. The same Sugar who hired Christian Gross but wouldn't back him. The same Sugar who couldn't turn his partnership with Sky into an advantage for Spurs.

I bet that Levy would have.

 

[rez9000]

By the way, before someone jumps in and points out the irony of me criticising Sugar while lambasting those who criticise Levy:

I'm aware of what Sugar did for us. Saved us from bankruptcy. However, our performance on the pitch was woeful. Levy has not only managed to make us successful on the pitch, he's also managed to make us secure financially.

I know which one I prefer.