Mateo Musacchio

[Hoddle&Waddle]

It's average per 90 minutes. So it doesn't matter how many games each of them played, or if the played less minutes in a game.

It does matter over which period the stats start and finish. If they are referencing both players entire careers, then fair enough.

 

[King of Otters]

if Vlad leaves, I will be pissed off.
I don't see what Musachhio does better than Vlad.

I'd like to see Vlad loaned to a Prem club if we sign Moustachio. He's still a little green but has the potential to be top class imo.

 

[GutBucket]

Even if he is better than Vlad (not saying he is) I don't think he would be ideal partner for Vertonghen at CB position. Think we should look for someone who is better in the air.

 

[Tyler24durden]

I agree, I think Vlad will be a very talented and classy cb.

Let Poch do his magic with him.

Jan, Kaboul (injuries may reoccur) Chiriches, Dier and another experienced cb will give us good options and allow chiriches and Dier to develop.

 

[Ossie85]

It does matter over which period the stats start and finish. If they are referencing both players entire careers, then fair enough.

I guess they are from last season

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Even if he is better than Vlad (not saying he is) I don't think he would be ideal partner for Vertonghen at CB position. Think we should look for someone who is better in the air.

Looking around at potential targets my mind keeps coming back to Winston Reid, ticks many boxes as a partner for Vertonghen IMO. That being said I'm not against signing this guy as I really haven't seen anything of the guy to judge either way(I probably have seen him one or twice but nothing was noted in my brain).

 

[Ossie85]

Even if he is better than Vlad (not saying he is) I don't think he would be ideal partner for Vertonghen at CB position. Think we should look for someone who is better in the air.

Why?
Jan is our best header according to stats. Better than Daws, Kaboul, etc.

You don't need both to be tall and good in the air.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

I guess they are from last season

Ok, I'm not sure that's a really fair comparison then.

 

[GutBucket]

Why?
Jan is our best header according to stats. Better than Daws, Kaboul, etc.

You don't need both to be tall and good in the air.

Yeah stats are cute.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's average per 90 minutes. So it doesn't matter how many games each of them played, or if the played less minutes in a game.

Eh? How do you come to that conclusion, Ossie? Of course the amount of games matters, no matter whether a player or manager. Anyone who has only had a brief time at their position/post, is absolutely going to have incomparable stats to someone who has been there for a length of time.

According to the stats, Sherwood is our most successful manager in the history of top-flight football. However, according to the blatantly bloody obvious, he most certainly wasn't. It's no different with a player.

Any player could have 90 minutes, make 100 successful challenges, from 100 attempts to tackle, and then be lauded as somebody who has 100% tackle success rate. Then the next game could come along, he has a mare & misses 100 of the 100 attempted tackles, how's that previous stat look then?

Sorry Ossie but you're wrong, on this occasion. The amount of games played absolutely matters.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Heading ability is irrelevant. The way Pochettino is gonna get us playing we'll never be in our own half all game

 

[Mouse!]

I'd like to see Vlad loaned to a Prem club if we sign Moustachio. He's still a little green but has the potential to be top class imo.

Sorry KoO, but I don't really understand this logic.

Bring in a 23 year old who has never before played in the League, so that we can loan out a 24 year old who has a year's experience in the League, because he's a little green?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Sorry KoO, but I don't really understand this logic.

Bring in a 23 year old who has never before played in the League, so that we can loan out a 24 year old who has a year's experience in the League, because he's a little green?

Had exactly the same thought, noticed who posted it, couldn't be arsed to deal with the ensuing headache

 

[Spurrific]

Had exactly the same thought, noticed who posted it, couldn't be arsed to deal with the ensuing headache

Sorry, but KoO is suarve, enigmatic, charming, and kinda handsome - reading your posts give me more headaches then necking Cornettos at an accelerated rate.

 

[Mouse!]

Had exactly the same thought, noticed who posted it, couldn't be arsed to deal with the ensuing headache

It's OK. Me and @King of Otters are super friends, so I'm allowed to call him out.

 

[Ossie85]

Eh? How do you come to that conclusion, Ossie? Of course the amount of games matters, no matter whether a player or manager. Anyone who has only had a brief time at their position/post, is absolutely going to have incomparable stats to someone who has been there for a length of time.

According to the stats, Sherwood is our most successful manager in the history of top-flight football. However, according to the blatantly bloody obvious, he most certainly wasn't. It's no different with a player.

Any player could have 90 minutes, make 100 successful challenges, from 100 attempts to tackle, and then be lauded as somebody who has 100% tackle success rate. Then the next game could come along, he has a mare & misses 100 of the 100 attempted tackles, how's that previous stat look then?

Sorry Ossie but you're wrong, on this occasion. The amount of games played absolutely matters.

Well, yes. But it's not like is 1 game against 30. They all have between 20 and 30 games. The average per 90 minutes is the fairest way to compare stats.
How important you consider stats is another different issue.
If you are going to consider every single condition of a player in a season, you can never ever make a comparison.

 

[Mouse!]

Sorry, but KoO is suarve, enigmatic, charming, and kinda handsome - reading your posts give me more headaches then necking Cornettos at an accelerated rate.

You are one of the worst posters on this site and your mum uploads rap videos to channel AKA. IMO.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Well, yes. But it's not like is 1 game against 30. They all have between 20 and 30 games. The average per 90 minutes is the fairest way to compare stats.
How important you consider stats is another different issue.
If you are going to consider every single condition of a player in a season, you can never ever make a comparison.

Which is why, in my opinion, stats count for the square route of fuck all. I mean no malice whatsoever, Ossie. What I'm saying, or attempting to say, is that 'stats' would probably (definitely?) point towards Soldado being absolutely sheit. However, there would, I'm guessing, also be stats that state he has a 100% success rate from the penalty spot, and has been on the winning team (even scored the winning goal) in the majority of games that he scored in.

Does that make sense? Basically stats can be countered as quickly as they can be amassed.

 

[gazzeh]

Mussachio was one of the best CBS form wise in the world last season. Good ball playing cb. But also not shy of a big clearance. Good in the air too. Timing seems to be heis fortay

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Sorry, but KoO is suarve, enigmatic, charming, and kinda handsome - reading your posts give me more headaches then necking Cornettos at an accelerated rate.

Yeah, apologies for speaking from a personal perspective.