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Missing midfield conductor?

dynamoSpurs

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We're missing a Modric.

Someone who patrols around the centre circle and conducts the play. Players makes the runs around him and he plays to serve the.

I've found all season that our cm's are too impatient and don't seem to know their roles.

They get forward too often and it disrupts the shape and intercepts the runs and positions of those who SHOULD be getting forward.

I know I keep harping on about modders, but I watch him carefully for Real and remember his time with his. A true puppeteer pulling all the strings.

We need that!
 

Mr Pink

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We'll be absolutely fine with Capoue back...and when Eriksen fully adjusts and Lamela is picked on a regular basis for the League.
 

CowInAComa

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No more fucking signings.

Coach the players we have to play like a football team, almost all of whom are exceptional.
 

Kiedis

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I keep forcing myself to not thinking about Moutinho in a Spurs shirt. Threads like this makes it hard. Thinking about Moutinho, that is, not my wiener.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Does anyone think that with the pressure for the nubmer 10 position (Eriksen/ Lamela/ Holtby) all supremely talented and with all the potential in the world, that one of them could drop back into a deeplying playmaker role?

I am particularly thinking Holtby is probably more suited than the other 2 to this 'trequartista' role.

If he dropped back and partnered and rotated with Sandro, Capoue and Paulinho he could, IMO, become a great deeplying playmaker

Where does that leave Dembele? i am not sure. But Dembele in that role has not set the world alight
 

sweyid

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Yes, we miss Luka, but I reckon that Eriksen will fill his boots more than well.
 

CowInAComa

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Does anyone think that with the pressure for the nubmer 10 position (Eriksen/ Lamela/ Holtby) all supremely talented and with all the potential in the world, that one of them could drop back into a deeplying playmaker role?

I am particularly thinking Holtby is probably more suited than the other 2 to this 'trequartista' role.

If he dropped back and partnered and rotated with Sandro, Capoue and Paulinho he could, IMO, become a great deeplying playmaker

Where does that leave Dembele? i am not sure. But Dembele in that role has not set the world alight

You mean like Modric did?

Yes I do.
 

Kendall

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I really don't think so. Dembele and Paulinho are capable of coming forward and picking a pass, as are the 3 players in front of them. The problem is the team's movement as a whole. There were still games when people parked the bus and Modric struggled. Modric is outrageously gifted and that's why he's playing for the biggest team in the world so any team would miss him. but I don't think we're necessarily missing a player that can knit things. We have enough quality in the squad to be able to do it, it's just the implementation, not the lack of an individual player. Bar a striker of course, we're certainly missing a certain type of striker.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Does anyone think that with the pressure for the nubmer 10 position (Eriksen/ Lamela/ Holtby) all supremely talented and with all the potential in the world, that one of them could drop back into a deeplying playmaker role?

I am particularly thinking Holtby is probably more suited than the other 2 to this 'trequartista' role.

If he dropped back and partnered and rotated with Sandro, Capoue and Paulinho he could, IMO, become a great deeplying playmaker

Where does that leave Dembele? i am not sure. But Dembele in that role has not set the world alight

I'm not sure Holtby has the athleticism or the positional discipline that allows Modric to play in a deeper role. His passing range is also not as good.

I like Holtby but his strengths are more suited to the number 10 role. His vision and one touch passing is better than almost everyone in the squad. I think he needs to work on his movement - this is something Eriksen is much better than him at - but hopefully it will come in time.
 

CowInAComa

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I really don't think so. Dembele and Paulinho are capable of coming forward and picking a pass, as are the 3 players in front of them. The problem is the team's movement as a whole. There were still games when people parked the bus and Modric struggled. Modric is outrageously gifted and that's why he's playing for the biggest team in the world so any team would miss him. but I don't think we're necessarily missing a player that can knit things. We have enough quality in the squad to be able to do it, it's just the implementation, not the lack of an individual player. Bar a striker of course, we're certainly missing a certain type of striker.

Its the implementation not the personnel.

This is exactly 100% it. Nothing more needs to be said about what player we are missing, we are just being greedy now.
 

dynamoSpurs

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Its the implementation not the personnel.

This is exactly 100% it. Nothing more needs to be said about what player we are missing, we are just being greedy now.
Agreed.

I wasn't trying to suggest a new signing, but some tactical discipline and decisiveness.

Our midfield needs to know its role. At the moment, it seems to be all over the place!

Tell Eriksen to sit deeper and conduct play! Let the wingers (if we persist with them) and the striker(s), and/or no. 10 make the runs.
 

southlondonyiddo

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I personally don't think any of the current 'playmakers' we have are as good as Carrick or Modric were

None of them show for the ball as much as those 2 did and none of them read the game as well either
 

Kendall

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I personally don't think any of the current 'playmakers' we have are as good as Carrick or Modric were

None of them show for the ball as much as those 2 did and none of them read the game as well either

No great surprise there. Carrick has won 5 league titles and a champions league as a lynchpin of the side, Modric plays for Madrid.

These are top players of that ilk. Of course what we have isn't quite up to that level, but we should still be able to control games, play killer balls and drag opposition players over the pitch with the 100m+ worth of talent we have accumulated in the last year.
 

Holtby City

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Agree with Mr Pink. Integrating Eriksen and Lamela in time will solve this.

I think using Siggy again in place of Lennon on the left would improve things too.
 

DEFchenkOE

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No great surprise there. Carrick has won 5 league titles and a champions league as a lynchpin of the side, Modric plays for Madrid.

These are top players of that ilk. Of course what we have isn't quite up to that level, but we should still be able to control games, play killer balls and drag opposition players over the pitch with the 100m+ worth of talent we have accumulated in the last year.

Also, it took both Modric and Carrick some time before they fully owned that deep playmaking role imo, I think given time Eriksen or Holtby could play deeper if needed but considering we have Sandro/Capoue/Dembele/Paulinho it will be a while before AVB decides to not use one of those in the "2".
 

southlondonyiddo

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No great surprise there. Carrick has won 5 league titles and a champions league as a lynchpin of the side, Modric plays for Madrid.

These are top players of that ilk. Of course what we have isn't quite up to that level, but we should still be able to control games, play killer balls and drag opposition players over the pitch with the 100m+ worth of talent we have accumulated in the last year.

Not necessarily. Sure you can control games but killer balls and the ability to open up the opposition is something else

You can buy 500m worth of players but if none are top top quality then you still won't be able to unlock doors

It's very very very early days but maybe Lamela will become the player we need. Townsend too maybe. But these guys are probably more match winners than playmakers which you also need

It's no coincidence that our football is probably not at sexy to watch now without a top class conductor as in firstly MC and then LM
 
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