Missing midfield conductor?

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

Who the frak are ET and SR?

Based on what he said I'm assuming Capoue (Etienne) and Sandro?

 

[Messy11]

Does anyone think that with the pressure for the nubmer 10 position (Eriksen/ Lamela/ Holtby) all supremely talented and with all the potential in the world, that one of them could drop back into a deeplying playmaker role?

I am particularly thinking Holtby is probably more suited than the other 2 to this 'trequartista' role.

If he dropped back and partnered and rotated with Sandro, Capoue and Paulinho he could, IMO, become a great deeplying playmaker

Where does that leave Dembele? i am not sure. But Dembele in that role has not set the world alight

Yes, definitely. Holtby has the right energy and most importantly the right vision and passing range to provide the link up play. He isn't there yet in terms of maturity, but definitely has the skills.

 

[Khilari]

Who the frak are ET and SR?

sorry. kids, sleep deprived and typing on my phone on walking from one building to another
meant EC (etienne capoue) and SR (sandro raniere). i need some sleep.

I've edited my original post thing

 

[Syn_13]

We're missing a Modric.

Someone who patrols around the centre circle and conducts the play. Players makes the runs around him and he plays to serve the.

I've found all season that our cm's are too impatient and don't seem to know their roles.

They get forward too often and it disrupts the shape and intercepts the runs and positions of those who SHOULD be getting forward.

I know I keep harping on about modders, but I watch him carefully for Real and remember his time with his. A true puppeteer pulling all the strings.

We need that!

As much as Modric is indeed a class act, what you'll notice between us and Madrid is that they have much better movement than us and don't play so far up the pitch. Modric plays in the middle third of the pitch, orchestrating the game similar to a Pirlo or a Xavi. As much as we don't have that kind of player, I don't think we're missing one either. Not every team needs, or is set up to need, that kind of player.

Our failure is in the final third. It's the movement of the front 4 or 5 players that is lacking. We could shove Modric back into the team and let him orchestrate, but if he's got fuck all in front of him to work with then it'd be a waste. If you play with a high line then you will naturally find yourself camped in the opposition half. This means you've got no choice but to move the ball around quickly between your front players, passing it back and forth and switching play quickly in order to drag the entrenched defenders out of their positions. The movement on and off the ball needs to be quick and the passing needs to be incredibly accurate. Basically, you need to be Barcelona. We're not.

 

[SlickMongoose]

sorry. kids, sleep deprived and typing on my phone on walking from one building to another
meant EC (etienne capoue) and SR (sandro raniere). i need some sleep.

I've edited my original post thing

I thought Ozil was ET.

 

[Khilari]

I thought Ozil was ET.

I am now going to bed. It took me 45 sec to get that. Then I lol'd like benny. Cheers for that!

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Off topic I know but we cannot score the necessary goals with this inverted wingers nonsense .. Boring too.

 

[Spurs1960]

Indeed. If you have a system that has attacking full backs, you need at least one of the players on each wing to have covering pace. If Jan is at LB, Lennon provides the pace. If it's Rose, you can have Sig.

True but I was thinking more of attacking. Sigurdsson cuts into taking the inside forward channel leaving Rose to overlap. Lennon stays wide, stretching the defence and creating a big channel for a midfield runner or Vertonghen to get into the box. With Sigurdsson and Vertonghen you get very little overlapping and no channel created for midfield runners as he is taking it himself.

WE have had a couple of games where Vertonghen has played behind Siggy and we produced nothing from that side, hardly any overlapping and little attacking from Jan, yet with Lennon creating the space we were a threat with Vertonghen attacking the box.

 

[CJMurray]

Off topic I know but we cannot score the necessary goals with this inverted wingers nonsense .. Boring too.

Of course you can, you just need the right players i.e. Lamela.

 

[NEVILLEB]

We've not been the same since Modric left. He really did make everything work. Especially in the final third.

We could have kept that group of players if we'd invested properly.

 

[dontcallme]

I was thinking a midfield 3 of Sandro, Modric and Paulinho with Paulinho in the most advanced role would be immense. Sandro destroying, Modric pulling the strings and Paulinho being the box-to-box player I believe he can be.

Modric though, was a special player and the type that only comes once in a while.

There are other midfield formulas that could work.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Off topic I know but we cannot score the necessary goals with this inverted wingers nonsense .. Boring too.

Bayern Munich use this system Hotspur! Them seem to do ok...

 

[SFCS]

Bayern Munich use this system Hotspur! Them seem to do ok...

Bayern are probably the best side in the World at the moment, we're nowhere near that. It's an extreme example but if Palace started trying to play like Barcelona you wouldn't expect that to work either. Besides Bayern play with plenty of quick passing and pace, which is what we need to see.

The system definitely needs a lot of work if we're going to start creating and scoring more. The obvious change seems to be having at least one winger on his natural side and heading down the byline.

 

[mil1lion]

Eriksen is capable of running the show for us but he needs to take games by the scruff of the neck. Several times so far against stubborn teams he has gone missing. He does need time of course but I really want him to go looking for the ball more.

In the second half against Sheriff he started to do exactly that and it made a world of difference. It all started when he got on the ball and took a long shot at goal. After that he got in the mood and started to get on the ball more and look for more through balls.

I admire what Modric gave us but I think we're controlling that area of the pitch just fine. I actually think we need miss VDV more than Modric. I'm not saying he is a better player but I just think we're struggling more in the final third than we are from deep. Everything is perfectly good up until we get to the penalty area. That's where we need some influence to pick out the final ball and take shots at goal.

 

[mil1lion]

Off topic I know but we cannot score the necessary goals with this inverted wingers nonsense .. Boring too.

Yeah it has never worked for boring Barca either.

 

[Spurs1960]

Bayern Munich use this system Hotspur! Them seem to do ok...

That's because they use the wingers in the right way, we don't. Their inverted wingers go outside the man and put the ball across as well as attacking themselves, ours don't.

Sort the wingers out and we'll start creating, then we are a different side.

 

[mill]

I don't care which foot the wingers play off surely as a premier league team we're capable of adjusting our tactics to suit any permutation be it traditional wingers, inverted wingers or one of each, they're professionals paid millions of pounds a year ffs not some pub team

 

[double0]

Most of the best teams in world football play inverted wingers and wingbacks bombing on thats the blue print we should follow. It will take time but I believe we're on the right track.

 

[Yid-ol]

We have the players to do what we need, we just need them to settle and gel as a team. For some players this may be a few games, others it may be a season....

 

[jezz]

play the right players it works, we have the right players.
Play the wrong players, it does not work, we play the wrong players its that simple.
if modric was here, he aint he left,get over it, we play a different system now.
Concentrate on the fantastic players we signed. they will come good if they play