Next Manager Watch

[KirstyG]

One wonders how the optics around the club currently look to potential new "head coaches".

It looks a shambles because it is!

 

[jpascavitz]

Complete absence of shite techno music, I'll be honest - I didn't know that was possible with one of these!

hahaha totally agreed. Just to pile it on if anyone is bored, some more videos I stumbled upon:



- short video just to show his philosophy, belief in that anyone can score a goal in the side, and that his English is spot on LOL



- some drills/training set ups he's done with his Feyenoord side.



- example of his AZ side breaking down a medium block

Just for anyone interested!

 

[YB123]

Or get him now, look at the shit show of squad and make plans for the summer?

Yh he will sack off his team somehow 6 points in front at the top of the table and a Europa Qtr final for 10 matches left with no defence....

 

[blodge99]

Despite Spurs being my true love (sorry to the mrs) I follow Celtic also (due to family and my Irish roots etc).

This is the type of bloke I want in charge of my club....as well as being a good coach and playing good football, he's a decent guy.



After the last few years I really think he could be the type to galvanise the club/fan base and be a success.
(Although Nagelsmann would be my 1st choice).


EDIT - just read the comments on that YouTube video to see the impact he's had on the club.

 

[jpascavitz]

Despite Spurs being my true love (sorry to the mrs) I follow Celtic also (due to family and my Irish roots etc).

This is the type of bloke I want in charge of my club....as well as being a good coach and playing good football, he's a decent guy.



After the last few years I really think he could be the type to galvanise the club/fan base and be a success.
(Although Nagelsmann would be my 1st choice).

Great share, thank you!

I'm at the point where (even though they're not exactly similar) where I'm lumping Ange, Slot, and Gallardo together. I would be happy with any of the three as they all seem to have some pedigree of football we'd like to see but each has a slight risk factor. I would be OK with any of those 3 and to give them 2 years pretty much no matter what. The hope is that we start to see patterns of play and encouraging signs while we continue the rebuild, and try to sort out the Kane situation.

Otherwise I would be in the bracket of going all out for Nagelsmann. If not him, would be OK with Poch and Enrique - although unlikely. They all seem to play somewhat attacking stuff, but may be expected to produce results faster.

 

[carpediem991]

That suggests you wouldn’t give them (women?) respect yourself. Unless you happen to know for a fact the players wouldn’t respect them?

Did the players all immediately respect Jol for everything he’d done in the game? unlikely…or did the players at Reims respect Will Still for being good on FM? No…the players respected these managers because of the way they spoke to them, treated them, engaged them, coached them, made them better. I hear the argument that “a non league manager shouldn’t get the Spurs job”, but i just don’t agree that women’s football is comparable to non league (Emma Hayes has been competing at the highest level of women’s football for years), and I think it could be transformative for a men’s team and culture.

As it goes I don’t want her as manager cos of the Chelsea link, and of course I’m not blind to the fact that perhaps it’s too big a leap, but you can say what you want, the tone of some of the messages was “not a woman”. Until that narrative changes and someone proves it can not only be “possible” but also a bloody good idea to give female managers jobs at mens clubs, football is inherently and institutionally sexist because you are not giving women a level playing field. That is fact, and it’s pretty bloody miserable.

Just one example I know of:

In Germany Imke Wübbenhorst, woman with UEFA pro license, got two jobs at a men team (Sportfreunde Lotte, BV Cloppenburg) in the 4th division.
The outcome was a spectacular failure with 0,6 and 0,7 points per game as an average and she was sacked after not even 20 matches at both clubs.

The theory is nice of giving female managers a job in mens football, but either the society is not there yet or there are other reasons. And our open job is certainly not the level to make these kind of experiments. Leading succesfully 25 footballers all earning millions of Euros isn't a job a lot can do. And even less for people who never played on a similiar level or have enough experience in a similiar dressing room.

 

[sidford]

Hopefully not sounding too melodramatic but if you were advising Nagelsmann and you saw the news in the past week with Conte absolutely slamming the players and club in the press conference, you see what's happening with Paratici, Kane has a year left on deal, Sons form this season , Levy's reputation with managers etc would you really be advising him that this is the place to flourish and shake off the failed at Bayern tag?!?

Just can't see him actually thinking we're a good fit for him.

 

[felmani26]

I still am concerned that Slot as promising as he looks has had very little experience in comparison to others. 4 years total and only a handful of games in European games over two seasons. By the time ETH came to the PL he had significantly more time under his belt, had worked in Germany alongside Pep and had almost taken Ajax to a CL final. Slot hasn't worked outside of Holland ether as a player or a manager. I wouldn't be against him, he does play very exciting football and I can certainly see the appeal but his overall lack of experience does concern me especially considering what a mess of a club we are currently. It's a shame Ajax are a bit of a mess at the moment as it would have been interesting see those two battle it out for the league. And as i've said those I'v talked to who actually live in holland and follow the game think he needs a little more time before moving although it is general conciseness he's very talented. It will be interesting to see how they get on against Rome in the next round. For me he would be on my list but I do feel it would be a little to soon for him, but I wouldn't be unhappy if it happened.

It's why I wanted Feyenoord to be drawn against Utd to see how he fares against top British opposition and equally against ten Hag which will be the main comparison made.

Nevertheless, he's currently on course to lead them to a treble so should he be successful then his stock will rise rapidly.

 

[Yiddo100]

I’m all aboard the Slot train now, just something about it feels like overall he’s the right choice.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Hopefully not sounding too melodramatic but if you were advising Nagelsmann and you saw the news in the past week with Conte absolutely slamming the players and club in the press conference, you see what's happening with Paratici, Kane has a year left on deal, Sons form this season , Levy's reputation with managers etc would you really be advising him that this is the place to flourish and shake off the failed at Bayern tag?!?

Just can't see him actually thinking we're a good fit for him.

100%

 

[PLTuck]

Fuck it, I'd be happy with Ted Lasso right now. He may know fuck all but it'd still be more fun than the last 3.

 

[carpediem991]

Hopefully not sounding too melodramatic but if you were advising Nagelsmann and you saw the news in the past week with Conte absolutely slamming the players and club in the press conference, you see what's happening with Paratici, Kane has a year left on deal, Sons form this season , Levy's reputation with managers etc would you really be advising him that this is the place to flourish and shake off the failed at Bayern tag?!?

Just can't see him actually thinking we're a good fit for him.

Well still someone like Nagelsmann needs to think what his alternatives are.

Don't see him as a good fit for Paris, Madrid or Barcelona to work with big Egos.
Also he knows Tuchel very well, can't be that convinced to look for the Chelsea job. Manchester, Scum and Pool seem occupied, in Germany everything now is a clear step back and Italy would only work with a translator...

Of course football develops quickly and positions will come up, but can't see "the" perfect fit for him. So who knows...

 

[truebluespur]

Despite Spurs being my true love (sorry to the mrs) I follow Celtic also (due to family and my Irish roots etc).

This is the type of bloke I want in charge of my club....as well as being a good coach and playing good football, he's a decent guy.



After the last few years I really think he could be the type to galvanise the club/fan base and be a success.
(Although Nagelsmann would be my 1st choice).


EDIT - just read the comments on that YouTube video to see the impact he's had on the club.

I'd be delighted with Postecoglou

 

[jurgen11]

Clubs in a mess and looking worse publicly every day perisic injured. First team suffering so prob gonna drop down the European places. Which manager is going to commit without knowing what European comp we’re going to be in. If at all

if I was coming Id be happy with no Europe to begin with..

 

[Hawkey77]

Just one example I know of:

In Germany Imke Wübbenhorst, woman with UEFA pro license, got two jobs at a men team (Sportfreunde Lotte, BV Cloppenburg) in the 4th division.
The outcome was a spectacular failure with 0,6 and 0,7 points per game as an average and she was sacked after not even 20 matches at both clubs.

The theory is nice of giving female managers a job in mens football, but either the society is not there yet or there are other reasons. And our open job is certainly not the level to make these kind of experiments. Leading succesfully 25 footballers all earning millions of Euros isn't a job a lot can do. And even less for people who never played on a similiar level or have enough experience in a similiar dressing room.

Your first point: Tim Sherwood was a shit manager so let’s assume if you’re a Premier League winning captain, it’s inevitable that you’ll be a shit manager in the Premier League.

Your second point: Nobody has the experience of leading 25 footballers earning millions of euros until they’re given the opportunity of leading them. What female coaches have is experience of managing a colllectice of elite sports people at the top of their game, inspiring them to be the best they can be, and motivating them to train hard every day etc etc.

Your third point about the dressing room: Now I DO think that a great pathway would be female coaches within a coaching team, no reason that also can’t happen, and could lead to more females being considered as serious contenders for top jobs.

I do know it’ll take time I’m just sick of loving a sport that is sexist at it’s core, and full of fans who are (on this topic, probably not in general).

 

[wrd]

Slot looks like the type of manager I will get ridiculously excited by, then we won't go near him, I'll be furious, he'll go to Everton, struggle because of the structure there and underperform and I'll pretend I never rated him.

 

[ChaoticBeaver]

Fuck it, I'd be happy with Ted Lasso right now. He may know fuck all but it'd still be more fun than the last 3.

Jason is getting paid $1 million per episode for season 3 so potentially a little out of our price range. However, we would probably recoup that in all sorts of after sales and entertainment, imagine Ted Lasso introducing some concerts and go karts.

 

[Cochise]

Those AZ clips are nice to watch. Everything is done at speed, one touch passing and always someone moving into space. Definitely something I've missed from our football this year.

 

[spursfan77]

Despite Spurs being my true love (sorry to the mrs) I follow Celtic also (due to family and my Irish roots etc).

This is the type of bloke I want in charge of my club....as well as being a good coach and playing good football, he's a decent guy.



After the last few years I really think he could be the type to galvanise the club/fan base and be a success.
(Although Nagelsmann would be my 1st choice).


EDIT - just read the comments on that YouTube video to see the impact he's had on the club.

I know nothing about him. But the Aussie attitude to sport can’t be sniffed at and if he’s reached the top of it then what kind of manager he is can’t be ignored. I’d want to know who his coaches are and what level they have worked at though really. Rodgers was the last manager to come to the PL from Celtic and he’s done ok but obviously has that PL experience at a huge club under his belt. My question is, from a Celtic point of view, who would they say is the better manager - this chap or Rodgers?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Well still someone like Nagelsmann needs to think what his alternatives are.

Don't see him as a good fit for Paris, Madrid or Barcelona to work with big Egos.
Also he knows Tuchel very well, can't be that convinced to look for the Chelsea job. Manchester, Scum and Pool seem occupied, in Germany everything now is a clear step back and Italy would only work with a translator...

Of course football develops quickly and positions will come up, but can't see "the" perfect fit for him. So who knows...

The big appeal at Chelsea is that they just hired Vivell as their new DoF who Nagelsmann worked well with at Leipzig. I could certainly see that as a very attractive proposition to both JN and Chelsea.