Next Manager Watch

[carlosspurs]

Enrique isn’t a moaner like Jose or Conte. If he doesn’t feel club is suiting him he would rather finish the job for season and walk away on his own than moan about it all day .

Our views & preferences in this 1400+ is changing week to week . We have discussed lot of names …

Enrique will be experiment that may or may not work but we will know only after a season. But I would rather do that experiment with Enrique than risk it with Potter or Ange or that fraud Rodgers.

Having said if we bring Enrique we better commit to him properly. Enrique has successfully used 3-4-3 & 4-3-3 in & out of possession- so there are certain aspects of squad that will fit his way. We will need though proper CB CM GK signing . But doable

He actually barring Barcelona has done nothing as far as I’m away. I’d take Potter in a heartbeat. Enrique plays slow pedestrian football also.

 

[jpascavitz]

If you’ve got a spare bit of time and want to get a better understanding of Ange, I’d recommend this;



- how he relishes a “project” as it gives him an opportunity to bring in his own players and way of operating
-arrived at Celtic just “wanting the job” and not “asking for anything”
- the value he puts on personality above all other qualities in a player and how a bad attitude can be poisonous in the dressing room
- his managerial influences and emphasis on an attacking playing style
- the importance of just being a decent human being

If nothing else, it at least sounds like we’d be a likeable, coherent, motivated team who the fans could get behind and identify with. I’d take that right now.

Once again, why I think he'd be good for the current state at the club. Pull/clear out the bad weeds and I think at his worse gives us a foundation to build off of.

 

[danielneeds]

Something to consider with both Enrique and Potter.

Both of them were working with teams (Spain, Brighton, Chelsea) WITHOUT a striker in the calibre as Kane.

Pretty soon both would be without Kane anyway, so it’s not that great a point.

 

[Flobadob]

If highly technical players is what you want...

Gil Kane Kulusevski
Bentancur Bissouma Lo Celso
Udogie Lenglet Romero Porro
Lloris replacement

...then we have accumulated enough of them for any tiki-taka (adjacent) manager to get started with

100%. The idea we don’t have enough technical players is bullshit, we just haven’t had a coach to make the most of them for about 4 years

 

[king_yid]

We shouldn’t be appointing a manager who has most recently managed a team who was in a downward spiral. That should rule out both Rodgers and Potter.

The added concern about Potter is he had Brighton playing nice football but they couldn’t score for toffee… de Zerbi has rectified that. Potter then went to Chelsea and had exactly the same problem, they couldn’t score! Yes they don’t have an out and out striker but neither did City prior to signing Haaland and they still scored goals for fun. Potter used the most players/different combinations in the EPL this season… and still couldn’t get a tune out of them. He’s also seriously lacking in the personality department. He looked out of his depth, if he couldn’t cope at Chelsea then he’s most certainly not going to cope at Spurs.

Potters Brighton team were scoring loads beginning of this season, why is this always swept under the carpet?

 

[Drink!Drink!]

I’ve reached the point where I’d be okay with Mason, he inherited an absolute mess and seems to have galvanised and brought people together for the last few games.

Maybe my expectations have just been significantly lowered by recent seasons, but I just want to enjoy supporting Spurs again, even if it means we don’t compete in the short term. Also quite like the prospect of moving into next season with a manager who really wants to be here and is looking to the future by continuing to promote some of our exciting youth players.

I dunno, did Everton fans look like they were enjoying their season....

No way around it Mason would be a huge white flag. Levy giving up any pretence at seeking sporting success. Appointing someone with ZERO managerial experience. We are only a couple more mis-steps away from potentially dropping into the bottom half of the table, and Mason would be one of those mis-steps. I know there's a culture of low expectations - even amongst our supporters, I mean, let's not forget how many on here thought Sherwood was a good idea - so no surprise some are getting psychologically prepared to accept Mason as somehow being ok.

A bit like Trix, my preference is actually walk the walk of being a super club and hiring a top manager OR go for someone young and upcoming (based on actually managing some teams and getting results, so definitely NOT Mason). Don't want the soggy middle option of some journeymen mediocre name, or someone on their way down like Rogers .

 

[mr ashley]

100%. The idea we don’t have enough technical players is bullshit, we just haven’t had a coach to make the most of them for about 4 years

Yes that eleven looks fine but don’t look at the bench!

 

[djhotspur]

Potters Brighton team were scoring loads beginning of this season, why is this always swept under the carpet?

Didn’t he have them 4th?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

we're in a bit of a realignment, arent we? Mason keeps saying "we need to choose who we are" and establish what a Tottenham team looks like and what a Tottenham player looks like..hiring a coach with an established style and creating synergies throughout the club is step 1 in that process. We need to start somewhere.

Exactly mate

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Whilst he isn’t my top choice I have to disagree with your last two points here.

As a personality he is actually pretty down to Earth and likeable. He’s not an egomaniac like Conte and Jose. When he was at Celta he was far from demanding and actually changed the ethos of the club. Talk to any fan of Celta at the time and they will wax lyrical about him. Just because he managed Barca doesn’t make him a glamour manager. Remember Ernesto Valverde or Tata Martino?

As for his style of play, it isn’t slow. It’s actually very direct. From his time at Barca B, where he actually did better than Pep, he streamlined the Barca tiki taka slow possession. His time with Barca and Celta he valued getting the ball up to the top of the pitch as swiftly as possible in order to catch the opposition off guard. Fast passing patterns and FB’s that sat high up the pitch, more like wingers. Yes he does use elements of that Barca passing style and he presses high and likes to retain possession but his football is not as suffocating as Pep or Kompany. And as I mentioned this isn’t a style that only worked with Barca’s crazy team, he got Celta doing the same.

I really feel there is the preconception amongst Spurs fans about Enrique that is completely unfounded in certain respects. I don’t know where it stems from. His Barca and Celta team were a joy to watch. What happened with Spain at the World Cup was very much down to Morata not being fully fit. He had to play false 9 and his tactics, unlike Pep, needs a technical striker. His only other real option was Morano who is more a target man and not great technically. Kane would be perfect for his system.

Some of what you say is true and I share some concerns, can he work outside of Spain is a big one for me. But I feel that some people are a little miss informed when it comes to certain elements of him as a coach. Is he my top choice, absolutely not but he’s certainly one of the best options out of those currently linked.

Completely agree mate, I think he'd be a decent option of the options remaining for the points you've said the only thing is surely if we wanted him we could've/would've got this sorted ages ago...

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Can we really take very much from his Celta job that was almost 10 years ago at this point? And he was only there for 1 season.

He finished 9th (their second season in La Liga) but the next manager came in and finished higher than that the next 2 seasons.

When Ernique was at Celta he brought in a number of young players. He completely changed the style and ethos of the team, making them a lot more technical and aggressive then they were under Abel Resino. When he left, Celta brought in Bielsa ex assistant from his time as Chilli manager, Eduardo Berizzo, in an attempt to continue the work Enrique had started. Berizzo was very much from the Bielsa high press attacking school. Essentially Enrique laid the foundations for the Celta to build upon both tactically and with the players that he had brought in. Enrique's influence lasted a lot longer then his time in charge.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If highly technical players is what you want...

Gil Kane Kulusevski
Bentancur Bissouma Lo Celso
Udogie Lenglet Romero Porro
Lloris replacement

...then we have accumulated enough of them for any tiki-taka (adjacent) manager to get started with

Spot on mate then also Richarlison off the bench and Reguillon spain international and a few youngsters and that is without any signings who also fit this mould.

We might not have ALL technical players and sure some like Skipp,Dier,PEH,Sanchez etc might not be ideal but the list you'e mentioned is a fantastic starting point for any coach who wants to play a more possession based technical style its just that our last 3 Managers have all been the complete opposite of this in terms of their coaching philosophies.

I think Big Ange or L.Enrique could both be decent options at this point as long as we get a DofF to match the same vision and re-shape the squad accordingly.

 

[KingNick]

Whilst he isn’t my top choice I have to disagree with your last two points here.

As a personality he is actually pretty down to Earth and likeable. He’s not an egomaniac like Conte and Jose. When he was at Celta he was far from demanding and actually changed the ethos of the club. Talk to any fan of Celta at the time and they will wax lyrical about him. Just because he managed Barca doesn’t make him a glamour manager. Remember Ernesto Valverde or Tata Martino?

As for his style of play, it isn’t slow. It’s actually very direct. From his time at Barca B, where he actually did better than Pep, he streamlined the Barca tiki taka slow possession. His time with Barca and Celta he valued getting the ball up to the top of the pitch as swiftly as possible in order to catch the opposition off guard. Fast passing patterns and FB’s that sat high up the pitch, more like wingers. Yes he does use elements of that Barca passing style and he presses high and likes to retain possession but his football is not as suffocating as Pep or Kompany. And as I mentioned this isn’t a style that only worked with Barca’s crazy team, he got Celta doing the same.

I really feel there is the preconception amongst Spurs fans about Enrique that is completely unfounded in certain respects. I don’t know where it stems from. His Barca and Celta team were a joy to watch. What happened with Spain at the World Cup was very much down to Morata not being fully fit. He had to play false 9 and his tactics, unlike Pep, needs a technical striker. His only other real option was Morano who is more a target man and not great technically. Kane would be perfect for his system.

Some of what you say is true and I share some concerns, can he work outside of Spain is a big one for me. But I feel that some people are a little miss informed when it comes to certain elements of him as a coach. Is he my top choice, absolutely not but he’s certainly one of the best options out of those currently linked.

I’m now curious who your first choice would be…

 

[mr ashley]

I wonder if part of the indecision is between munn influencing DL pushing for postecoglu based on the city group experience, and paratici still having DL’s ear and pushing for Enrique to build based on the academy (and the players he signed)

 

[easley91]

Didn’t he have them 4th?

Yep. Scored 14 in 7 league games. So averaging 2 a game. Not bad for a side who couldn't score for toffee.. In his final game they scored FIVE.

Chelsea couldn't score under Lampard either, so I wouldn't hold his Chelsea spell against him.

 

[HedgieSpur]

He actually barring Barcelona has done nothing as far as I’m away. I’d take Potter in a heartbeat. Enrique plays slow pedestrian football also.

Tell me you havent watched Enrique's teams much without telling me you havent watched his teams much

 

[arunspurs]

He actually barring Barcelona has done nothing as far as I’m away. I’d take Potter in a heartbeat. Enrique plays slow pedestrian football also.

And what’s Potter done ?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Completely agree mate, I think he'd be a decent option of the options remaining for the points you've said the only thing is surely if we wanted him we could've/would've got this sorted ages ago...

Yeah, its funny I feel like I have spent a lot of time defending him when I too have a lot of question about how good a fit he would be. But exactly like you say at this point, and considering the other options we have publicly been linked to at least (as who know who else we are talking to), he is certainly one of my preferred options. Doesn't mean I want him, its just context really. He wouldn't be anywhere near Nagelsmann or Gallardo for me but one has to be realistic at this point I feel.

I also agree tho, If we where going to get him it probably would have happened by now. I fully expect him to go to Napoli regardless what De Laurentiis said.

 

[Flobadob]

Yes that eleven looks fine but don’t look at the bench!

Bench would be something like Son, Richarlison, Hojbjerg, Sarr, Dier, Sanchez, Emerson, Sessegnon.. that’s not exactly bad in my opinion. If you’re talking technical ability only Sarr and Emerson are really decent on the ball from that group though I guess.

I’d argue you’d need to upgrade on Lenglet and Gil on top of a Lloris replacement but the issue with Lenglet and Gil wouldn’t be technical ability, it’s a lack of pace and physicality.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I’m now curious who your first choice would be…

Gallardo (hence the profile pic) and Nagelsmann. But it's pointless as neither are coming.