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JCRD

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Can’t help feeling all this, understandable, shouting for Nags (who was my favourite too) or Enrique and dismissal of Ange is reminiscent of when we went for Poch instead of the fan favourite De Boer.

Speaking as someone who is intrigued by Ange, i think Poch and De Boer the difference was that one proved it in the PL and one was in the Eredivisie. Ange is in Scotland and before that didnt really do much of note.

Ange is underwhelming but again he will be like Jol for me - someone likeable will get us to do decent thinng on the pitch but may well struggle (hope he wont and ill be supporting him to get it right)

We are a top six club supposedly though, we should be going for a top 6 manager or akin to that.
 

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Speaking as someone who is intrigued by Ange, i think Poch and De Boer the difference was that one proved it in the PL and one was in the Eredivisie. Ange is in Scotland and before that didnt really do much of note.

Ange is underwhelming but again he will be like Jol for me - someone likeable will get us to do decent thinng on the pitch but may well struggle (hope he wont and ill be supporting him to get it right)

We are a top six club supposedly though, we should be going for a top 6 manager or akin to that.

I think this theory is a little over-blown. Arsenal's manager obviously knew the league, but had never managed in his life before taking a massive job; Newcastle transformed their fortunes with smart recruitment led by a manager most of us (me included) would have turned our noses up a year ago. Brighton got into Europe by taking a bit of a risk in De Zerbi etc.

Obviously there's a lot of nuance in all these arguments, but I don't think we should be worried about being seen to go for a top six manager, whatever that may be.
 

Liamyid28

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Poch and nagelsmann both available and we apparently didn’t want to talk to either but we now want the Celtic manager! Sorry lads but this club is finished. Guess this will be the second year on the trot I don’t give enic a penny of my money so every cloud and all that 👍🏻
 

For the love of Spurs

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Yep, it's all a sham.

We're picking managers for financial reasons first, football second.

we have always been finance first football second. That is ok when the financial situation is dire or your are working towards a goal like the new stadium but post stadium the ENIC model is totally broken, they seem unable to transition to the post stadium built reality of the club.

Levy not paying for Slot, not giving DOF power to try and get Nagelsmann. All of this behaviour is Levy in his comfort zone, controlling and small minded.
 

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Spoken to a Celtic season ticket holder, he is convinced he will stay at Celtic, as he is loved by the fans, said the football is the best he has seen in years
 

Tezza1978

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I just will feel extremely uninspired if Ange is appointed as will the vast majority of Spurs fans. - and very concerned. His style of football /personality may be better than Nuno but I really fear that a poor summer (is he REALLY going to push Levy hard... to not just end up having to work with what he has) and a slow start then he will be out the door by November. Someone like Slot would be given far more time by the fans and I feel Luis Enrique would too.

The promising quality players we are linked to - Raya, Laporte etc I doubt very much they would come. And I don't believe the senior players at Spurs (the good ones, not the ones we want rid of) would be happy at all about this appointment and could easily semi- down tools like Kane did when Nuno was here. You can argue that they should be fucking professionals and knuckle down, but this is OUR players we are talking about who already have a weak, weak mentality.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Reading between the lines I don’t think Ange is categorically our first choice. We kept being told by the media when Slot’s name was being pushed that spurs have said there was no actual front runner out of the shortlist of Slot, Amorim, Enrique, Postecoglou.

Bearing in mind that Celtic play at the weekend - but we’ve also heard Enrique is waiting to hear about a prem job, and Amorim impressed in his interview - I think we’re simply waiting to give Anje his second interview before deciding between the 3 remaining candidates.

The fact WLB had previously said Slot and Amorim were the two leading candidates after the first round of interviews makes me suspicious why Ange would all sudden junmp to the head of the queue, so I don’t believe that is the case.

We’ll obviously learn more by next week but I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if Enrique or Amorim are appointed instead. And tbh I would be comfortable with any of the three. They’ve all got their strengths and weaknesses but the main thing is I think they would all love to represent our club and get us playing spurs DNA football, which after what we’ve had to deal with over the last 3 years will at least make it fun to watch us again.
 

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Ange isn’t young but he’s still up-and-coming in the sense he’s still new to European football and climbing the football ladder.

What’s more important though is he does fit the profile of a manager who likes his teams to play aggressively and dominate the ball which the club seems to want. I feel positive that the philosophy would be the driving force rather than pedigree/big name when deciding the coach. I think the majority of us want some sort of stability and long term plan based around a philosophy that prioritizes attacking football. Maybe this signals a pivot towards that? Even if it doesn’t (I mean we don’t even have a DOF so it probably doesn’t), at least it might show a desire to form some sort of attacking identity? It’s better than our current identity which is pretend to act like a big club with these glamour managers yet proceed to act completely the opposite.

That can be done with a bigger name (I’d prefer Luis Enrique, Nagelsmann obvs). For me it should be profile>pedigree, but it’s just that so many have the profile to go along with experience and success at a much higher level, that he wouldn’t be close to the top of my list. I would say that while the concerns are much greater given he hasn’t proven himself at a high level, he’s positive and unifying and would theoretically bring the type of football many of us want.
 

dtxspurs

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Can someone explain to me why we are not going after Nagelsmann? Is it out of fear of public rejection or is there something wrong with him ?
He wanted assurances over Summer plans & DOF that Levy wasn't going to commit to and thus we released that BS that we weren't interested.
 

dtxspurs

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What was the “financial reason” behind Jose and Conte?
Jose was a chance to squeeze the last bit of a life at a squad that drastically needed a facelift. He picked a manager (cheaper option) over rebuilding the squad for Poch (expensive option).

Conte is a tougher one under this aspect I suppose. Conte only happened due to his relationship with Paratici. We paid him a big wage sure but Levy was completely up against the wall in that situation.
 

cjbyid

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Nagelsmann isn't going to work with someone like levy in charge.

We all know how levy operates, he isn't going to magically change.

I think we need to forget about it. As much as I would love him at Spurs.
 

C1w8

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I think we are "big" enough - and we certainly pay well enough.

My take is that managers look at the job as one that is set up to fail - based on the historic structure of the club. Right or wrong, they will see Levy's influence as inhibiting their own chances of success - and that could have longer term ramifications.

For me it's almost one of the same - blame levy for it, Sugar before him, but for reason x,y,z we've been not been successful for 30+ years, our name doesnt resonate (in my opinion) as much as the Uniteds and unfortunately the Arsenals Chelseas etc.

If Brighton had spent the last couple years in the Champions League, had a nicer stadium and our budget for players and the manager, would Nagelsmann want to manage them? Personally dont think so.

Anyway all hypothetical and we'll never really know, but for me i find all the talk about just getting the best manager out there as if they're up for joining in the first place, a little presumptuous.
 

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I think there's a lot to like about Ange and if it is him, then at the very least we've kept to the plan regarding the style of play and type of manager, I do think he ticks a lot of boxes. However, it feels uninspiring when you consider the caliber of managers that have been available since we sacked Conte
 

Spurvert

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Have a lot of respect for Big Ange and the man he is. Which is why I fully expect him to tell Levy and co to fuck off. Then sign a new deal at Celtic.
 

dtxspurs

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Nagelsmann isn't going to work with someone like levy in charge.

We all know how levy operates, he isn't going to magically change.

I think we need to forget about it. As much as I would love him at Spurs.
Yeah for me I've got zero expectation that Nagelsman is happening. It's just the frustration that it won't because of Levy's bullshit.
 
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