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[specspurs]

I don’t see many people throwing shade for him being Australian but the leagues and countries he has managed in.

He’s been coaching for almost 30 years. If after say 10 years he left Australia and went to manage a FC Twente/Sampdoria/Auxerre or even a club in one of Europes second tier divisions and done well people wouldn't care whether he was Australian or not.

I’ve seen people make comparisons with Poch and De Zerbi but Ange’s CV compared to Poch’s when he joined us and De Zerbi’s before joining Brighton, aren’t comparable imo.

From a cultural perspective I quite like the fact he’s Australian as I’m sure a lot of people will. Fluent in Australian so wil be able to understand most of what he says, Ozzies are generally seen as no nosense, say it how it is kind of people which will align with a lot of people over here but tbh I don’t know how much people really care about these things, they’re nice extras but we’re all fickle fuckers who want to see us win at the end of the day.

As an Australian who has been involved with Australian football at the top level in both journalism/TV and and administration, let me say that it is almost impossible for any Aussie coach to reach the FC Twente/Sampdoria/Auxerre level of coaching unless they actually played for these clubs. That is what makes Ange's achievements up to now so special. No club in Europe would take the risk on someone like Ange precisely because he is Australian and has only coached in Asia.
In fact, I'm struggling to think of anyone from the entire Asian Confederation that has coached a top team in Europe, and the AFC have produced quite a few top players. (I'm open to correction).
So, Tottenham Hotspur with another trailblazing first, a manager from the AFC in one of Europe's top 5 leagues and with a top club.

 

[Scot-Spur]

I'm afraid I've seen nothing from Lenglet to recommend him to me, genuinely think we need better and can do better.

This, he is unremarkable although better than a few we have. I personally feel we need a bit more athleticism also in the back line.

 

[Gpnash84]

You are spot on and we will need very good defenders to compensate. Something the board must deliver if we are to have any chance.

Calling Postecoglou’s tactics ‘reckless’ is harsh. Let’s get serious Celtic, irrespective of tactical approach are not expected to compete with Real Madrid and even Leipzig (yes Rangers beat them in the Europa but that was a shock result). Given his first season at Celtic was a massive rebuild and they only got going around Nov/Dec that year I think we can deem this season as he’s first attempt at Europe with his own team and yes it was disappointing, but we could same the same about Poch as we got knocked out in the group stage in the first year. All the evidence of his career points to a guy who learns and adapts to succeed.

 

[danielneeds]

So I have a Celtic mate (I know I know)..

He’s convinced a striker like Kane won’t work with Postecoglu’s system. Says he likes a fast, agile and hard working CF that will press like a maniac and we’d be better off selling him and building a young energetic front line. Will be interesting to find out what we do here

I’d suggest your mate doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. The most advanced striker is just the trigger man for the counter press. He’s very rarely gonna win a turnover, but he gets the ball played to the FBs or pivots where the press springs. Kane’s more than capable of doing that job.

 

[Tucker]

Just a little snippet about the process from Prof replying to a poster saying Ange was 3/4th choice.

The part in bold doesn't match the information that's been shared with me. Because we spoke with Nagelsmann when he unexpectedly became free part-way through the evaluation process, doesn't mean he was preferred to either of the top 2 choices (in fact, any of the top 4 choices) that emerged from the selection process. The info I was given about the outcome of the initial selection process was #1 = Slot, #2 = Ange, #3 and #4 = current or former PL managers.

 

[Riandor]

Think Kane might be out of his hands any way. But yes, our stale immobile front line isn't perfect for I'm a hipster ball.
Not sure Kulusevski is ideal neither, would think he'd prefer quicker feet. It's no surprise he like Asian signings, they run their socks off.
He'd probably prefer Lee Kang-in

The problem isn't Kane, he works his socks off in other areas, it's IF you have a Harry Kane, you make sure the players around him can pick up the "slack".

For me Kulusevski and Son are not hard pressers/ball winners. Yes they can run, but especially in Son's case, he can't win a bleeding tackle. I love Son, I really do, but this season I really felt we should have utilised Richarlison more due to his tenacity. Kane is scoring, but we didn't win games because we were too easy to play through.

That said, IF Kane is set on leaving, then Ange should have the finances to get the striker he needs for that part anyway.

 

[Hoopspur]

Talkshite reporting Celtic have given permission to talk to AP. Also sky now.

*Main Sports News

 

[soflapaul]

So I have a Celtic mate (I know I know)..

He’s convinced a striker like Kane won’t work with Postecoglu’s system. Says he likes a fast, agile and hard working CF that will press like a maniac and we’d be better off selling him and building a young energetic front line. Will be interesting to find out what we do here

AC was inflexible in his approach. Ultimately, if Ange is who we hope he is, he'll look at HK and decide whether the talent or the money is most important and adapt his system to our strengths. My understanding of him is that he is more flexible in his approach and if he is offensively minded, he would have to want to figure out a way to make the most of HK. for example, he could tuck HK in behind Richarlson in defense while having him move forward or interchange in attack.

 

[danielneeds]

Can we all agree with the fact Nagelsmann going to PSG with Henry as his assistant means he was definitely not right for us at this point in time?

 

[glacierSpurs]

Can't wait for the announcement. Not gonna care whether DoF will get announced first or what. Badly need the managerial position to be given the clarity sooner than later.

Rangers fans in social media are the happiest lot at the moment and that speaks volume.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Celtic hold the world record for domestic trebles, lets not cherry pick one season to act like miracles were performed.

Do you think he's only been appointed because he won the treble?

 

[Flobadob]

Think Kane might be out of his hands any way. But yes, our stale immobile front line isn't perfect for I'm a hipster ball.
Not sure Kulusevski is ideal neither, would think he'd prefer quicker feet. It's no surprise he like Asian signings, they run their socks off.
He'd probably prefer Lee Kang-in

Well if what he’s saying is right it may not be a disaster if Kane does end up leaving this summer. I tend to agree with him that if we’re playing a pressing front line that the likes of Kane and Son aren’t going to be the best way forward

 

[danielneeds]

The problem isn't Kane, he works his socks off in other areas, it's IF you have a Harry Kane, you make sure the players around him can pick up the "slack".

For me Kulusevski and Son are not hard pressers/ball winners. Yes they can run, but especially in Son's case, he can't win a bleeding tackle. I love Son, I really do, but this season I really felt we should have utilised Richarlison more due to his tenacity. Kane is scoring, but we didn't win games because we were too easy to play through.

That said, IF Kane is set on leaving, then Ange should have the finances to get the striker he needs for that part anyway.

Disagree on Son and Kulu. There was no backing up or any real coordinated pressing, as we tended to do a perfunctory attempt at a counterpress and then slink back to our mid-low block under Conte. If players know they are not gonna be backed up by team-mates their pressing just gets more and more half-hearted.

 

[Dunc2610]

Disagree on Son and Kulu. There was no backing up or any real coordinated pressing, as we tended to do a perfunctory attempt at a counterpress and then slink back to our mid-low block under Conte. If players know they are not gonna be backed up by team-mates their pressing just gets more and more half-hearted.

Totally agree with this, there were so many times either would look behind them to see who was with them in the press and there'd be no one, so they'd have to stop pressing or the ball just went over their head everytime.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If we sign Lenglet on a perm, we’ll need to sign at least 1 ideally 2 more top CB’s but also probably a left back.

That being said, Romero & Lenglet as ball playing CB’s in a possession based 4-3-3 would be quite tasty. It’s the full backs I’d worry about under Big Ange or L.Enriques 4-3-3’s.

Honestly Lenglet in an extreme high line/high press in the PL scares the shit out of me. I watched him at Barca and he just couldn’t cope. There was also a mental aspect and the hope is he would refined his form from Savilla but in general on the whole he was a calamity at Barca. We are going to need a lot better for it to work imo. Back up sure, starter not so much.

As an aside full backs in the Enrique and Ange systems are completely different. Enrique likes his FB’s to push high up the pitch like wingers (Udogie and Porro would have been great for this.) Ange likes to invert his on the whole. I’m genuinely curious to see what he does with Porro and Udogie as neither are strong enough in attack to be pure wingers IMO but both would be wasted as inverted FB’s.

 

[HotSprut]

Can we all agree with the fact Nagelsmann is going to PSG with Henry as his assistant means he was definitely not right for us at this point in time?

Why is this "proof" that he wasn't the best choice?

 

[Flobadob]

I’d suggest your mate doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. The most advanced striker is just the trigger man for the counter press. He’s very rarely gonna win a turnover, but he gets the ball played to the FBs or pivots where the press springs. Kane’s more than capable of doing that job.

I mean he watches Celtic week in week out and is likely to understand the way they’ve been playing better than you do but okay lol

 

[Gareth88]

This :

It will be hard to tell him apart from most of the fans

 

[joey55]

I know most don't agree, but I think the influence of the head coach is so limited, that you can't ask for much more than having the leadership skills to command respect, be a likable character and play attractive football. He seems to tick all 3 of those boxes, so I don't think we could ask for much more.

I think likability is under rated in the importance of a manager. Supporting the team is much better when there is a feel good factor around the club and so much of that comes from the fans relationship with the manager. There is no doubt there were small, but not insignificant sections of our fan base that wanted us to fail under Redknapp and Mourinho. Even in our successful more recent seasons, I don't think the atmosphere reached the fever pitch of 2005/6 under Jol and so much of that was because of how much the fans loved BMJ (BC aside.) From what I've seen of him, I think Ange has got that charm about him that someone like Conte totally lacks. He also, seems like he could command the respect of the players. Combine that with exciting football and then it's just down to recrutiment and hoping other teams fail.

 

[mil1lion]

Just trying to keep up here. So we wanted a manager who plays attacking football. We get one and now we're worried about defence?

Regardless of manager we need to sign new defensive players anyway. Not sure why it sounds like it's any different for Ange. At least he won't have us invite pressure onto our weakness but we will need to defend the counters more.