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Out of 30 points left how many do you think we'll need?

SamR

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The balls firmly in our court. If everyone stays fit and we turn up against city and Chelsea (we have in the past so I'm expecting a tight game in both) we should be looking upwards. I love that AVB looks at 2nd rather than staying 4th.
We're playing decent football, unbeaten in 12 and have a defence for once that looks solid and a player everyone is shit scared of. If anything, I think the pressure is on city and Chelsea to finish above us.
 

chinaman

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20 points should guarantee 4th; and 22 might give us 3rd. 24 should be 2nd or almost 2nd.
 

StartingPrice

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We will all of those and mug city off for 2nd as they bottle it.

FUCK YEAH :cool:

Welcome to the light side, Brotha...embrace the farce (y)

17 will definitely do. Arsenal aren't going to win 8/10 games. No chance.

5 wins, 2 draws and 3 defeats from our last 10 games. That is very achievable.

Arsenal's fixtures:

Swansea (A) - Tough game
Reading (H)
West Brom (A) - Tough game
Norwich (H)
Everton (H) - Tough game
Fulham (A) - Tough game
Manchester United (H) - Tough game
QPR (A) - They'll struggle here, QPR will be fighting for their lives to stay in the league
Wigan (H) - Again, Wigan will be fighting for survival and usually turn it on at this time of the year, i'd still expect them to win this though.
Newcastle (A) - Tough game

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this Arsenal team only wins about 5 of those. There's only 2/3 games you'd completely expect them to win.


We'll do it. (y) In fact, I think we could quite easily do it with about 14 points.

I largely agree - I've been reading for ages, now, how the Goons have some kind of mythological easy run-in.

If we apply logic, and, ignoring GD for the time being, the Goons need to win three more games than us to overhaul us.

What I am going to do is write off our three hardest games as losses, and write off their three easiest games as wins. You can argue with that if you want, but I think it is fair enough as I am more than a little hopeful that we will get something some Liverpool, Citeh and Chelsea, so it is not right to write off any but the easiest Goons games, not least because they aren't certain to win any of these games, even - Wigan, in particular, I would see as a real banana skin. So, I will write off the Wigan, Reading and Norwich games for them. If we do that, they then have to match us for results. If we then take the Everton and Swansea games away (we both play Everton at home and both play Swansea away - so if we are assuming par they should match us in them results) let's have a look at what that means, in effect:

GOONS
West Brom (A)
Fulham (A)
Manchester United (H)
QPR (A)
Newcastle (A)

US

Fulham (H)
Wigan (A)
Southampton (H)
Stoke (A)
Sunderland (H)

That leaves them four extremely difficult away games and a game against the likely champions, against three relatively benign home games for us, where we must be favourites, and two tough away games. I really can't see them matching our results over these five games.
As we know, anything can happen - but I don't see AVB losing grip this season, like a certain somebody did last, so even if they win make up their three games on us, they have an uphill task in matching our results.
 

Dannyspur

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Liverpool (A) Lose
Fulham (H) Win
Swansea (A) Win
Everton (H) Draw
Chelsea (A) Lose
City (H) Draw
Wigan (A) Win
Southampton (H) Win
Stoke (A) Draw
Sunderland (H) Win

18 points will leave us in 4th one point ahead of arse (I was harder on us than arse to allow for our usual muck ups)
 

CJMurray

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Liverpool (A) Lose
Fulham (H) Win
Swansea (A) Win
Everton (H) Draw
Chelsea (A) Lose
City (H) Draw
Wigan (A) Win
Southampton (H) Win
Stoke (A) Draw
Sunderland (H) Win

18 points will leave us in 4th one point ahead of arse (I was harder on us than arse to allow for our usual muck ups)

You had Arsenal winning 8/10 games? :wtf:
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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I think if we get 16 points then we will be likely to get 4th - just.

Any less and it starts looking very borderline.

Any more and it starts getting very tough for them.

And above all, despite the fact that (and I sound like a broken record here) we STILL haven't really clicked going forward (in the way that Liverpool have at times, for instance) we're one of the form teams in the league.

Come on Spurs - we can do this!!!
 

jolsnogross

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May 17, 2005
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Our last two games are very kind indeed. Position matters less than motivation towards the end of the season, meaning the Southampton & Wigan games are bigger potential pitfalls than Stoke and Sunderland.

But our big games, against Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea and City are the key ones. There's a potential 12 point shift there that we could be on the wrong end of. I don't expect a collapse in form though, so I'm optimistic that we can keep our unbeaten run going and pick up 6 wins at least. Which should be enough.
 

CowInAComa

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Aug 31, 2012
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The Chavs have a pretty tricky run in. Harder than Arsenals - I really think we should be thinking of finishing above them first and foremost to ensure CL.

I see the Chelsea v Spurs match being pivotal. If we are above them or level after that, we will have it in the bag.
 

tototoner

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Mar 21, 2004
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I'd like to finish on 75 points or more, that will guarantee 3rd and CL group qualification

We need to aim higher than finishing 4th and having to go to the CL playoff
 
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