I would prefer to give him another season and actually utilise him alongside a proper defensive midfielder (Sandro) before casting judgement.
Can't keep chopping and changing all the time.
Yes let's sell another proven international, after all Brazil is such an easy side to get a regular place in, because he is 'not good enough for Spurs. Our last two managers have really set the club back!!
Marginal upgrade on Jenas, have you been out in the sun?The fact that a player is a 'proven international' (whether it be for Brazil or Burkina Faso) is entirely irrelevant if he fails to deliver the goods at the level which really matters. It appears we've paid £17m for a player who—a few moments of genuine magic aside—can best be described as a marginal upgrade on Jenas. Whilst I don't see any movement in or out before the new manager arrives, Paulinho's got a hell of a lot to do to justify his reputation, transfer fee and wage packet.
Marginal upgrade on Jenas, have you been out in the sun?
The fact that a player is a 'proven international' (whether it be for Brazil or Burkina Faso) is entirely irrelevant if he fails to deliver the goods at the level which really matters. It appears we've paid £17m for a player who—a few moments of genuine magic aside—can best be described as a marginal upgrade on Jenas. Whilst I don't see any movement in or out before the new manager arrives, Paulinho's got a hell of a lot to do to justify his reputation, transfer fee and wage packet.
No, just watching Paulinho run around a lot.
He's an upgrade on JJ. How much of one is a matter for debate, if one could actually be arsed. One thing that is for sure is that he hasn't looked like £17m's worth of attacking midfielder.
Brazil and Mourinho don't use a central two, which as someone else said, Paulinho has probably never played before in his life.Starter for Brazil and Mourinho chase him, yet so many experts here dont think he is good enough for us.
I'm hoping a new manager will know what to do with him. Hopefully a new Spurs manager and not the one at Chelsea.Brazil and Mourinho don't use a central two, which as someone else said, Paulinho has probably never played before in his life.
He's a unique player, Paulinho. Not many players have his engine (when he can be bothered), goal-scoring ability, aerial ability and touch/technique in the midfield role. The only thing he doesn't have in his locker is long-range shooting ability.
Starter for Brazil and Mourinho chase him, yet so many experts here dont think he is good enough for us.
And do you really think that his performances so far have merited his £17m price tag? Or that he's lived up to the advance billing? His international performances are neither here nor there—what matters is what he does for Spurs. It's a fat lot of good getting into good scoring positions if your finishing is as poor as Paulinho's has been for much of the season, and he hasn't created that much either; he's been OK overall, but for what we paid I expect rather more than OK. Don't you?
Perhaps we'll see better next season—it may well be, as some have said, that we aren't playing to his strengths, and that he'll get more joy from the new coach.
Can't remember who it was (might have been beats) but someone posted a graph or something outlining how the to commercial value of Brazilian football players has increased dramatically over the past few years. Not to say that justifies his price tag fully but might go some way to explain why his value was a bit higher. Out of interest, what would you say would have been a fair price for a Brazil international who was very good in the confed cup?
If we hypothetically compare him to a similar level of talent in Europe (but still as you say a valuable contributor in a major international tournament), I'd say around £12 million.
I wouldn't say that's totally unfair. I was thinking around the £14m mark