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Player Watch: Emerson Royal

spurmin

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The fact that Emerson got voted MOTM by our fans when we drew 1-1 at Anfield last season suggest differently.

Often the exaggerated positive and negative views fight against each other when the majority view is somewhere in the middle.

That view is that Emerson has been a fairly underwhelming signing for the money spent, but is a lovely character who hasn’t deserved being booed my the home support and we are all very happy about his performance yesterday.


I can remember Thierry Henry being an underwhelming signing for Arsenal.
The point is that he hasn’t been given a chance. People have just jumped on the band wagon saying he’s shit which he clearly isn’t.
He’s young, and in a different country and culture. And in my opinion hasn’t been given a chance to prove himself.
 

Freddie

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I can remember Thierry Henry being an underwhelming signing for Arsenal.
The point is that he hasn’t been given a chance. People have just jumped on the band wagon saying he’s shit which he clearly isn’t.
He’s young, and in a different country and culture. And in my opinion hasn’t been given a chance to prove himself.
But that's not true. He HAS been given a chance to prove himself and it took him a long time to do so. He's played 66 games for us despite being underwhelming in most of them. How many players have we signed who are turfed out without even playing 10 games? If he continues this upward trajectory then many of us will have been proved wrong but we can't be expected to give every new signing who doesn't play well this much time.
 

spurmin

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But that's not true. He HAS been given a chance to prove himself and it took him a long time to do so. He's played 66 games for us despite being underwhelming in most of them. How many players have we signed who are turfed out without even playing 10 games? If he continues this upward trajectory then many of us will have been proved wrong but we can't be expected to give every new signing who doesn't play well this much time.
Good luck Pedro Porro.
 

HodisGawd

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But that's not true. He HAS been given a chance to prove himself and it took him a long time to do so. He's played 66 games for us despite being underwhelming in most of them. How many players have we signed who are turfed out without even playing 10 games? If he continues this upward trajectory then many of us will have been proved wrong but we can't be expected to give every new signing who doesn't play well this much time.
Just admit, like many on here, you were too harsh, too quick.
 

Freddie

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Just admit, like many on here, you were too harsh, too quick.
I was critical of his performances, and I think fairly so. If you want to see fast judgements go on the Spence thread after he's played ONE game for Rennes.
 

Capocrimini

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I've always said Emerson was quality ?.

Just saw the compilation from the City game he looked so confident and purposeful.
 

dtxspurs

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I can remember Thierry Henry being an underwhelming signing for Arsenal.
The point is that he hasn’t been given a chance. People have just jumped on the band wagon saying he’s shit which he clearly isn’t.
He’s young, and in a different country and culture. And in my opinion hasn’t been given a chance to prove himself.
What?! Henry scored 17 goals in the prem in his first season and 26 in all competitions.

Also Royal has certainly had a chance. He's a good RB, he's not a natural RWB. Which isn't his fault he's been playing a role he's not suited to. But I have a hard time re-writing history on this guy based off a few games.

I like him, but not in this system. Games like City are few and far between.
 

spurmin

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What?! Henry scored 17 goals in the prem in his first season and 26 in all competitions.

Also Royal has certainly had a chance. He's a good RB, he's not a natural RWB. Which isn't his fault he's been playing a role he's not suited to. But I have a hard time re-writing history on this guy based off a few games.

I like him, but not in this system. Games like City are few and far between.
Alright Statto.
 

brasil_spur

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The fact that Emerson got voted MOTM by our fans when we drew 1-1 at Anfield last season suggest differently.

Often the exaggerated positive and negative views fight against each other when the majority view is somewhere in the middle.

That view is that Emerson has been a fairly underwhelming signing for the money spent, but is a lovely character who hasn’t deserved being booed my the home support and we are all very happy about his performance yesterday.


I'm not even sure it's fair to call him underwhelming for £25m. That doesn't buy you much in the way of 22 year old players these days.
 

felmani26

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It's not sacrilege to call out the many appalling displays from Royal previously and equally it's not hypocritical to praise the improvement and mental fortitude he's shown recently either.

Nothing more frustrating than nauseating "I told you so" fans.
 

carpediem991

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Don't really get the full praise like "always said he is quality", "don't judge too early"... fair play to Royal for his last three performances and long may it continue. But for me he has some way to go to turn my opinion around. He had a good patch at the end of last season that basically kept his spot over the summer and is now on another decent run but he had like 40+ well below par performances where he offered literally nothing in both directions. And I think after 66 games its a fair assessment and not without no reason we were crying for a Porro signing to give us something at RWB.

I like Royals attitude and committment, think especially fans in the stadium were to harsh that surely didnt help his confidence and I like what I have seen the last three games. But I think the big praise can wait a bit...
 

Trix

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Have to laugh at all the "supporters" who were willing to drive him to any other club because he's the worst player to ever wear our shirt" who are now fully u-turned after a couple of good performances. Glad I've been taking names now as it'll help me filter out the fickle f*ck sticks in future conversations. :D
 

Trix

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It's not sacrilege to call out the many appalling displays from Royal previously and equally it's not hypocritical to praise the improvement and mental fortitude he's shown recently either.

Nothing more frustrating than nauseating "I told you so" fans.
There's a difference between calling out the poor displays, and the dogs abuse he's been getting on here and everywhere else. It is very hypocritical to say "he's the worst full back to ever play for us, can't wait for him to fuck off" and then say a few weeks later they are glad we kept him over Doc for instance. VERY hypocritical.
 

Freddie

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I'm not even sure it's fair to call him underwhelming for £25m. That doesn't buy you much in the way of 22 year old players these days.
This is a myth. Clubs with excellent scouting systems can continuously sign good players for under ten million with a decent success rate. Clubs that don't will piss away tens of millions time after time.
 

TOLBINY

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He is an adequate defensive right back and an inadequate right wing back. Would not have a major problem with him at RB if we played a flat back four. Square peg / round hole.
 

carpediem991

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This is a myth. Clubs with excellent scouting systems can continuously sign good players for under ten million with a decent success rate. Clubs that don't will piss away tens of millions time after time.
Think thats true. Surely its harder to find a ready starter for a Champions League team but its definitley possible. Surely prices were different a few years back but Dele, Eriksen, Dier or Toby were great business even if they would have cost treble money.

I am working for SC Freiburg and they did some decent business in the summer like Ginter for free or Doan for 8m. Don't think they would be worse than some of our big signings here.
 

McFlash

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There's a difference between calling out the poor displays, and the dogs abuse he's been getting on here and everywhere else. It is very hypocritical to say "he's the worst full back to ever play for us, can't wait for him to fuck off" and then say a few weeks later they are glad we kept him over Doc for instance. VERY hypocritical.
Such as some posters childishly referring to him by his number, instead of his name.
Just wildly disrespectful to a player who has always given his all to the shirt, no matter how hard it's been.

Only last week, there were a fair few pissed off that we'd kept him instead of Doc, which to me, made no sense whatsoever.

There's a vast difference between criticism and abuse and sadly, some can't seem to see that.
 
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