- May 12, 2010
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Oh fuck off.
A big part of the problem tonight is we had 9 players on the pitch who had just played 60 mins on Saturday a man down. On top of that we were playing a diamond and they were a 433 hugging the touch lines. What ever energy our midfield had ran out after 30 mins of pressing. The Thiago sub killed us, as he is playmaker who is excellent at making use of space and moving the ball around quickly and cleverly. We never had a chance with this line up.The really worrying thing tonight for me was how insipid we were after half time.
That wasn't a team who had been inspired by their manager. And that's when problems start.
Not time to go now. But I think if we don't improve in the next 3 games then questions will rightly be asked.
I remember Wenger using that excuse when we beat them 5-1, it made me laugh then too.Can't believe the numbers.
Have people lost the plot?
We've been playing pretty well, we hit the post at Arsenal which would have killed the game. VAR ruled out a goal at Leicester which would have capped off an almost certain impressive away win.
We played well tonight for the first 30. Tonight was a freak result, everything Bayern hit went in.
And this for me is why I’m on the potch out fence. Tactically Ive never ever thought he was good enough. Klopp and pep are on another level. poch errors:So much of our defensive problems stems from not having Dier drop back from DM and effectively making it a 3 in defence. Playing Winks as a DM was one of the dumbest experiments I have seen. Would have made more sense to play Sissoko there if we really, really had to. Beyond that, it is so better balanced and as you say, We have exactly the team for it.
Sorry mate bigger picture weve been shit for about a year now and on the decline. Squad and tactics and motivation are a mess. Did I also mention Colchester?I don't agree we have been playing well but I do think things have gone against us. The Kane penalty against Newcastle. The woodwork against Arsenal and the offside against Leicester. Those 6 points would move us to 2nd place above Man City. It's a game of fine of fine margins and we are not that far off, so for me Poch deserves more time. I also agree that Bayern were ruthlessly clinical tonight and 7-2 was a bit of a freak scoreline.
Totally right and some of our best moments have come using this formation. There though lies the fundamental problem with Poch. He can't see it and that over everything tells me far more about his ability to manage us. I mean how can you be so blinded by your own belief that you are playing the likes of Winks there, who is never, ever gonna hold in that position, or how can you not see the glaring space that our exposed full backs were giving away!? My faith, if I had any left has gone completely after tonight's performance. Brighton must be licking their lips!This. We actually have the squad for this system.
Agreed. I like Winks but he’s too small for that role. Get Dier in alongside him, move Sissoko to full back, replace Eriksen with Ndombele.So much of our defensive problems stems from not having Dier drop back from DM and effectively making it a 3 in defence. Playing Winks as a DM was one of the dumbest experiments I have seen. Would have made more sense to play Sissoko there if we really, really had to. Beyond that, it is so better balanced and as you say, We have exactly the team for it.
Stay.
He does piss me off with his complaints and threats to leave, and random tactical decisions, but sometimes you need to take a step back and see the bigger picture.
We’re complaining about a spanking in the CL. A tournament we were begging to get into, and one in which we reached the bloody final under him only a few months ago.
We’ve got injuries and players out of form. Contract disputes and the inevitable comedown atmosphere after coming so close to glory. Keep the faith. At this point there’s about as much risk hoping he can turn things around as banking on some new manager to reach his previous achievements.