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SpursD22

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No way. Play to the whistle. That was the rule before VAR came in and it still is.

Nah man come on when you as a player see the linesman raise up the flag you instantly stop playing unconsciously, it’s like a reflex
 

slartibartfast

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Oct 21, 2012
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I'm actually missing alan smiths commentary. He should be doing this matc
Nah man come on when you as a player see the linesman raise up the flag you instantly stop playing unconsciously, it’s like a reflex
Who cares. We want Newcastle to win! Fk 'em lol.
 

Amo

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Aug 22, 2013
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No way. Play to the whistle. That was the rule before VAR came in and it still is.

Was the whistle blown eventually tonight? Because before VAR with the flag raised it the goal wouldn't be checked and therefore it's safe to stop playing when the ref will almost never overrule the linesman for an offside position.

The the VAR check it means you have to play on regardless of whether the ref stops the game.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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Nah man come on when you as a player see the linesman raise up the flag you instantly stop playing unconsciously, it’s like a reflex

They're meant to be professionals, they should know the rules.
And it's also instinct to stick your arms out when you try and block a cross, but you see players put their arms behind their backs now.
 

SlotBadger

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No way. Play to the whistle. That was the rule before VAR came in and it still is.
Completely agree with this (and I loved Shelvy celebrating by tapping his head).

The problem is with the dumb fucking rule the Premier League have introduced for raising the flag before the decision is made by VAR.
 

slartibartfast

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Like Pardew as a pundit. That women, name escapes me, mentioned Spurs in a negative way almost as much as she mentioned Arsenal pre match. I know shes a gooner but jesus.
They want a pen for a shirt pull now. Christ youd have a pen every corner!
 

WalkerboyUK

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Jun 8, 2009
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Schoolboy stuff for Newcastle's second. The linesman raises the flag and all of the Sheffield United players just stop. Shelvey jogs through for an easy goal.
Nah man come on when you as a player see the linesman raise up the flag you instantly stop playing unconsciously, it’s like a reflex

There are two mistakes made for that goal, none of them by the ref or VAR.

1) On such close offside decisions the assistant is supposed to keep flag down, allow play to continue, then VAR reviews for offside. It’s not even a close call, the striker is clearly on when the initial ball is played.

2) Play to the whistle. They’ve had 4 months now to get used to VAR. In all likelihood the defenders wouldn’t have caught Shelvey, but the keeper has screwed up by making it easy for him.
 

nailsy

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Was the whistle blown eventually tonight? Because before VAR with the flag raised it the goal wouldn't be checked and therefore it's safe to stop playing when the ref will almost never overrule the linesman for an offside position.

The the VAR check it means you have to play on regardless of whether the ref stops the game.

The ref didn't blow the whistle before the goal went in.
I've seen refs ignore flags before. Usually for fouls, rather than offside, but it's always been play to the whistle. There was a very similar incident at the weekend so I'm surprised they all stopped.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Aug 10, 2017
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Surely the rule should be the same that the lino doesn’t flag marginal offsides to avoid exactly this. It’s how it’s being done everywhere else, but for some reason Mike Riley is picking And choosing the rules to implement.

And this is the result.
 

dondo

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Arsenal look a very average side

Beautiful isn’t it.
Just tuned in about 5 mins ago, straight away they lost the ball in midfield and it was 4 vs 3 in Brighton’s favour. Why do they have so many players in front of the ball s most of the time? Harlem globetrotters mentality stoke city ability ?
 

nailsy

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There are two mistakes made for that goal, none of them by the ref or VAR.

1) On such close offside decisions the assistant is supposed to keep flag down, allow play to continue, then VAR reviews for offside. It’s not even a close call, the striker is clearly on when the initial ball is played.

2) Play to the whistle. They’ve had 4 months now to get used to VAR. In all likelihood the defenders wouldn’t have caught Shelvey, but the keeper has screwed up by making it easy for him.

I think they might have given the linesmen new instructions now. They mentioned something about it on TV a few days ago, but I was only half listening at the time. Not sure if anyone else knows anything about it?
 

tototoner

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Mar 21, 2004
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Wow wtf I’ve just witnessed the worst refereeing decision ever! The Sheffield United players and keeper stoped playing because the linesman said it was offside! Awful awful awful decision to grant the goal
Can’t believe what I’ve just seen
Yeap farcical
 

WalkerboyUK

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Jun 8, 2009
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Surely the rule should be the same that the lino doesn’t flag marginal offsides to avoid exactly this. It’s how it’s being done everywhere else, but for some reason Mike Riley is picking And choosing the rules to implement.

And this is the result.

Pretty sure that’s the rule that’s supposed to also be used in PL.
The fact that the ref didn’t whistle suggests that’s still the case.
 
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