Souness trying to fix the draw?

[Disconosebleed]

I don't think it's laughable at all.

Souness put the numbers in the hat, and kept his hand in the hat, he had to be told to remove his hand before drawing a number. That is not paranoia, that is the action of someone cheating. Coupled with the look he gave Redknapp, you have to say the draw isn't what he wanted, or maybe not what he planned.

Obviously the draw isn't what he wanted, he's a Liverpool fan and they drew the favourites. I'd have pulled that face in my home if we'd drawn Chelsea, it doesn't mean I'd try and fix the draw if I got the opportunity.

To avoid all this idiotic suspicion they shouldn't have people with known biases do the draw just in case (the same reason they asked him to remove his hand, to prevent baseless accusations like this one), but if you honestly think a televised draw in front of hundreds of thousands of witnesses would be openly fixed in the way you're suggesting, then you've cracked. Further, if you believe that they would take that mammoth risk and then not actually manage to fix the draw, you need to have a word with yourself.

Think about the implications of what you're saying. It's a simple question of risk and reward - do you really think he would risk his well-paid, cushy Sky Sports job for the sake of fixing a draw for a relatively minor cup competition? Redknapp would have to be on board seeing as he was drawing the second ball - are you saying the pair of them cooked up the scam and then Redknapp fucked up? Bottled it? Changed his mind? He's not the brighest button but he's not brain dead.

The risks are too high and the possible reward too minimal for your theory to make any sense. It's a stupid, paranoid theory based on nothing but Souness pulling the same face any fan would have done in his position. It was unprofessional to show his annoyance, nothing more.

 

[talkshowhost86]

It's all a conspiracy!

The pundits hate us!

The refs hate us!

Everyone is cheating but us!

It's the only reason we didn't win the World Cup!

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[parklane1]

It's all a conspiracy!

The pundits hate us!

The refs hate us!

Everyone is cheating but us!

It's the only reason we didn't win the World Cup!

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, its good for a laugh though.

 

[EZSpur]

Ouch!

LMAO at the stupid ****s

 

[hodsgod]

Obviously the draw isn't what he wanted, he's a Liverpool fan and they drew the favourites. I'd have pulled that face in my home if we'd drawn Chelsea, it doesn't mean I'd try and fix the draw if I got the opportunity.

To avoid all this idiotic suspicion they shouldn't have people with known biases do the draw just in case (the same reason they asked him to remove his hand, to prevent baseless accusations like this one), but if you honestly think a televised draw in front of hundreds of thousands of witnesses would be openly fixed in the way you're suggesting, then you've cracked. Further, if you believe that they would take that mammoth risk and then not actually manage to fix the draw, you need to have a word with yourself.

Think about the implications of what you're saying. It's a simple question of risk and reward - do you really think he would risk his well-paid, cushy Sky Sports job for the sake of fixing a draw for a relatively minor cup competition? Redknapp would have to be on board seeing as he was drawing the second ball - are you saying the pair of them cooked up the scam and then Redknapp fucked up? Bottled it? Changed his mind? He's not the brighest button but he's not brain dead.

The risks are too high and the possible reward too minimal for your theory to make any sense. It's a stupid, paranoid theory based on nothing but Souness pulling the same face any fan would have done in his position. It was unprofessional to show his annoyance, nothing more.

I am only describing what it looked like. It looked dodgy! He picked up the numbers, put them in the hat and left his hand in the hat. He had to be told to remove his hand.

The face is just an incidental, the hand remaining in the hat is wrong, that is not debatable. It looks bad, very bad.

 

[225]

I don't see why he would do us any favours. He played one season for us, he won 3 European cups at Liverpool.

Well, he didn't even play a season to be fair. Been a cock from Day zero.

Read this from wiki (of course, just conjecture, but sounds about right)

Souness's career began as an apprentice at Tottenham Hotspur under Bill Nicholson. He signed professional forms as a 15-year-old in 1968. Frustrated at a lack of first team opportunities, the teenage Souness reputedly informed Nicholson that he was the best player at the club. Souness made one solitary appearance for Spurs in the UEFA cup as a substitute.

Barely kicked a ball in the first team but thought he was better than the likes of Jennings, Perryman, Mullery, Peters and Chivers....

 

[Nine while nine]

I think Souness wanted to avoid a Liverpool - Spurs Carling Cup Final, in case they referred back to 1982...

"Of course Liverpool and Spurs have met in this final before, a final noted for a particularly cynical piece of savagery by a violent buffoon, a totally unsportsmanlike approach that besmirched the occasion and sullied the beautiful game, a vicious assault on the legendary Tony Galvin by an ignorant thug who now pontificates on football despite his previous villainy. Graeme, you were in that final, do you remember the incident in question..."

 

[ItsBoris]

I think it's scandalous that two players with such strong ties to one club, and such well documented grudges against another in the pot, were allowed to do the draw

Well it worked out for us then.

Maybe what we need is them doing all our draws. They'll plan to give us the toughest team, but cock it up and give us the easiest one!

 

[Ribble]

Ouch!

LMAO at the stupid ****s

"Another fine mess you've gotten us into"

 

[Romulus]

the look souness gave wasnt a look of 'damn Jaime what a tough draw' it was more of a ' damn jaime you you have royally fucked this up'

 

[billnick]

Secondly and i think this mostly applies for all draws but why the fuck do they have a rehearsal? A draw shouldn't be rehearsed that is the point of the bloody thing being "random"

All sorts of reasons, eg. checking lighting; shadows; reflections; microphones; earpieces; sound mix; camera angles; camera position; focus; broadcast time; and that pulling the numbers out in the first draw would only affect random probability in the second draw if you didn't put them back in, or if they were 'marked'. Which they weren't, or we'd be playing Chelsea.

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

They should have got them to wear these for the live draw. Cause, y'know, they're both shitheads.

 

[stevenurse]

*cubes

They should just have a system like the lottery. Call the machine Keith or something

 

[EastLondonYid]

 

[seanyboy]

it's 2014 yo. wtf are people doing drawing blocks out of a garbage can anyway? can't we observe atomic radiation to eliminate the opportunity for bias or something?

 

[tiger666]

And we get the draw we wanted and some of our fans are also saying it's a fix. Bizarre.

 

[nferno]

"fishier than john terry's fucking dick"

LOL.

 

[Bofbro]

It did look suspect, and why the fuck are they not round balls anymore.

 

[bubble07]

They be like the Europa/champions league balls that you have to actually open to reveal the name

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

Ouch!

LMAO at the stupid ****s

disgusted look at the lack of nookie, desperate attempt to still believe by holding hands.. ahh it's almost over lads.. time to go your separate ways..

it was never really mean;t to be