Spurs Amazon Documentary?

[RikkiRocket]

Who’s the good looking chick that’s always hanging around the players? She’s like our own version of the Ex-Chelsea Physio

Christian Ericksen?

 

[tototoner]

Nothing wrong with what Rose says it's how he delivers it.

This documentary is very sanitised, if Rose had really kicked off at Mourinho the footage wouldn't have been released, and any player that isn't playing regularly should be asking the manager why.

 

[arunspurs]

4,5,6 is a drag - probably because of all those injuries & fucked up results.

Take aways :
i) I finally understand why Lloris is ahead of Kane in captaincy. Hugo has big presence than Kane. Kane is just a leader by example - I dont see him as a motivator.
ii) Danny Rose is a child. With this attitude its a surprise, he survived this long. In hindsight, we should have sold him for 40m - 50m in same season we sold Walker. Rose came across so amateurish and childish : 'I am going to Levy to speak now' ?‍
iii) Hugo completely reflected how I felt on Jose saying...just when results go for us, bam, there is a big injury. Hugo is certainly well grounded. Need him to extend his contract.
iv) Episodes 1 to 6 showed me, how bad a dressing room we have leadership wise- too many softies. I know shots were edited but to me, in HT talks I expected a better body language. Hopefully, new signings will bring that positiveness to dressing room.

 

[carmeldevil]

Love the series. I don’t get the moaning about tactics etc. of course they won’t reveal much. But it’s a great look in the background of our club. Just apply the usual caveat that it’s an edited and controlled documentary and you’ll enjoy it for what it is.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Rose isn't doing anything differently to any of a million players before him, even Redknapp said years ago that if you leave a player out of the team at Spurs they are straight in to speak to the Chairman.

 

[Schoolboy Spurs]

ii) Danny Rose is a child. With this attitude its a surprise, he survived this long. In hindsight, we should have sold him for 40m - 50m in same season we sold Walker. Rose came across so amateurish and childish : 'I am going to Levy to speak now' ?‍

I have to disagree, I think he is right, football careers are short and if your not happy you have to say so, he is now 30 and it's all downhill now. I think you misread "i'm going to speak to Daniel now" but I do agree we should have sold him when we sold Walker. By the way i am good friends with Eddie Newton from the time him and Roberto Di Matteo did their coaching badge, if you want to know what not speaking out can cost you, study his story or if you know an honest person connected to Chelsea ask them!

 

[arunspurs]

I have to disagree, I think he is right, football careers are short and if your not happy you have to say so, he is now 30 and it's all downhill now. I think you misread "i'm going to speak to Daniel now" but I do agree we should have sold him when we sold Walker. By the way i am good friends with Eddie Newton from the time him and Roberto Di Matteo did their coaching badge, if you want to know what not speaking out can cost you, study his story or if you know an honest person connected to Chelsea ask them!

For me, on Rose -it was not just this occasion. Its a cumulative thing. Everything on its own doesnt look a big issue. Add it all up over the last few seasons-having Rose around is high maintenance job. With his decline in football of late, its not worth the time. No wonder, even Newcastle shied away from signing him permanently

 

[sausage]

Rose isn't doing anything differently to any of a million players before him, even Redknapp said years ago that if you leave a player out of the team at Spurs they are straight in to speak to the Chairman.

Is that not the exact problem with Danny Rose's behaviour that you're excusing - "it's not a problem because everyone else does it".

It shows that while Danny isn't unique, his behaviour still isn't what you'd want from a senior team member.

 

[George94]

Mourinho’s body language when talking to the head physio was disappointing and a reminder of some of the problems he’s had in the past. Quite manipulative.

I thought this too, actually - but I reckon I'd get quite pissed off too if the only time I saw the bloke was when he was giving me bad news ?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Is that not the exact problem with Danny Rose's behaviour that you're excusing - "it's not a problem because everyone else does it".

It shows that while Danny isn't unique, his behaviour still isn't what you'd want from a senior team member.

I'm not excusing it, have to say I'm no huge fan of Rose, just that it's a bit harsh to call him a "dick" like some people have because he said he was going to talk to the Chairman etc.

What I didn't like was the attitude that everyone else has been shit, and that the "whole dressing room/other guys" (cant remember the exact phrase and the episode was shite so I'm not going to watch it again) agreed. That wasn't a great attitude to have and I disagree with Rose's own perception that he's just saying things like that because he's honest.

Anyway, it's all staged and set up so who knows what really happened

 

[arunspurs]

I thought this too, actually - but I reckon I'd get quite pissed off too if the only time I saw the bloke was when he was giving me bad news ?

I could understand Mourinho perfectly. When I heard Son was out for season due to a fracture in elbow...I thought as well - if he could finish the game & score last minute winner, then he could play with a arm injury

 

[George94]

I could understand Mourinho perfectly. When I heard Son was out for season due to a fracture in elbow...I thought as well - if he could finish the game & score last minute winner, then he could play with a arm injury

Yeah it was just one thing after another with injuries - I can understand why Mourinho was so frustrated, but he definitely acted like a **** when speaking to Geoff Scott, he wouldn't even look at the poor bloke!

 

[H-SF]

Episode 7 will be hard viewing too, got the Liepzig tie, Chelsea away, Wolves home, Burnley away and Norwich in the cup. Then there will be loads of shite about COVID and lockdown but once we start seeing footage after the resumption it should make better viewing for us Spurs fans.

 

[Trotter]

Is that not the exact problem with Danny Rose's behaviour that you're excusing - "it's not a problem because everyone else does it".

It shows that while Danny isn't unique, his behaviour still isn't what you'd want from a senior team member.

No, It just shows that the coach/manager really does not hold a lot of power at a football club, and they haven't ever since Bosman switched the power to the player.
If players (especially senior players) feel they are being mistreated they will just go to chairman and either a) ask for move or b) if lots of them, and results aren't great, try and get manager out.
Physios basically telling him that he is not part of the decision process on whether a player is available or not etc.
His job is basically creating an environment where most of the players will be onside through his man management and tactics, and inevitably there will be some unhappy with what he wants/does, and they will want out.

 

[sausage]

I'm not excusing it, have to say I'm no huge fan of Rose, just that it's a bit harsh to call him a "dick" like some people have because he said he was going to talk to the Chairman etc.

What I didn't like was the attitude that everyone else has been shit, and that the "whole dressing room/other guys" (cant remember the exact phrase and the episode was shite so I'm not going to watch it again) agreed. That wasn't a great attitude to have and I disagree with Rose's own perception that he's just saying things like that because he's honest.

Anyway, it's all staged and set up so who knows what really happened

Fair enough.

I might have mentioned it before, but Danny reminds me of so many people I've worked with in the past - those who have "me versus the world" attitudes (possibly paranoia, who knows). A real chip-on-the-shoulder.

Whilst what they say might not necessarily be factually incorrect, that whole attitude is just repellent in a team environment. There's a big difference between being a balls-out and honest confrontational leader, and acting like you're just plain angry at the world. You see guys like that a lot in life and they get angry that they aren't getting the promotions or perks, but the reality is that you have to not come across as frictional, but more 'passionate' in these things.

It's weird because the anecdotes about being the 'teacher pet' suggest that he had the right mix not so long ago. It seems to have been that Sun interview about 3 years ago, or that injury he had, that changed him

 

[arunspurs]

Yeah it was just one thing after another with injuries - I can understand why Mourinho was so frustrated, but he definitely acted like a **** when speaking to Geoff Scott, he wouldn't even look at the poor bloke!

Wasn't that happening outside , in the doorway - no wonder Jose didn't even look at him. We don't know what state everyone was. I don't see a point in reading body language in such highly edited clips ,especially if conversation isn't happening in proper setting and with no context.

 

[George94]

Wasn't that happening outside , in the doorway - no wonder Jose didn't even look at him. We don't know what state everyone was. I don't see a point in reading body language in such highly edited clips ,especially if conversation isn't happening in proper setting and with no context.

Of course, I understand all of that, but I wouldn't say I'm having to read too much into the body language - I honestly don't think I saw Jose so much as make eye contact with Geoff! They might get on wonderfully well, but from the little I saw, that was just my opinion.

 

[Legacy]

I still can't get over the look of inner peace and contentment that Lloris has while some bloke is messing with his arse cheek.

 

[jurgen]

Failing to sign a backup striker was glossed over pretty smoothly especially given the hard luck story of injuries.

We got some platitudes about best intentions and a comment from dear leader to us proles about how we don't understand all the moving parts in a transfer. Presumably other clubs also have to deal with said moving parts when they sign strikers too, but what do I know.

It's a far cry from watching the Sunderland chairman getting slowly shafted harder and harder for Will Grigg against his better judgement!

 

[yojambo]

Very reassuring when your head of recruitment says he hates the transfer window ?

Thought that was shocking tbh