'Spurs ground plan to put Arsenal in shade' - Times

[prawnsandwich]

10k will be corporate. 3-5k will be away fans. I thin around 1k have to be given to local residents as agreed with the build. You don't think we could sell 45k? If 30k were season tickets that would only be 15k tickets we'd need to sell each week.

I didn't say that. I am asking whether fans would buy a season ticket when there would be a great likelihood of tickets being available for most games.

 

[Flashspur]

I think you guys are missing the point - the changes in plans could compromise the councils arguments under the CPO application

 

[Lilbaz]

I didn't say that. I am asking whether fans would buy a season ticket when there would be a great likelihood of tickets being available for most games.

If we can sell out, yes of course they would buy season tickets. For normal fans the capacity is only going up by about 12-15k. We have a waiting list of season tickets of over 20k. Not suggesting that all will buy them. But we can also reduce prices if needed or grow.

We are not necessarily building the stadium for the capacity that we require now. But the capacity we will require in the next 5-10-20 years.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I didn't say that. I am asking whether fans would buy a season ticket when there would be a great likelihood of tickets being available for most games.

Won't season tickets be cheaper than buying tickets for each game?

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I think you guys are missing the point - the changes in plans could compromise the councils arguments under the CPO application

I suppose. But if there's an even bigger capacity to bring in more money- plus additional activities- surely we cold argue that the regeneration will be even better and therefore more necessary.

 

[Lilbaz]

Won't season tickets be cheaper than buying tickets for each game?

As long as you don't do a West Ham.

 

[not_tenth-again]

I suppose. But if there's an even bigger capacity to bring in more money- plus additional activities- surely we cold argue that the regeneration will be even better and therefore more necessary.

If we have to argue that then it means we've probably had to restart the application process. If we're building something that wasn't in the original application we're opening ourselves up to challenges and technically we're on shaky ground.

Having said that, I'm 3 sheets to the wind, I've now been up for nearly 20 hours and I wouldn't have a flippin clue how the English development system works.... in other words, believe in my opinion at your own peril

 

[Flashspur]

I suppose. But if there's an even bigger capacity to bring in more money- plus additional activities- surely we cold argue that the regeneration will be even better and therefore more necessary.

yes of course but it potentially undermines the current CPO process and could end up having it overturned i.e. you are back to square one

 

[Blackrat1299]

Irving Scholar didn't build the West stand!

He bought the club after the previous owners had got themselves into trouble building the West stand.

So it was surprising that he thought it a good idea to repeat the trick a few years later when making a dog's dinner of the Shelf side redevelopment.

If that's the case you can understand DL's cautious approach.

 

[Blackrat1299]

yes of course but it potentially undermines the current CPO process and could end up having it overturned i.e. you are back to square one

I am not sure that's true, I am led to understand the reason for the appeal is not the size or change in shape of the stadium, but whether Haringey can justify the CPO, so that Spurs can build the stadium, by stating it is important for the regeneration of Tottenham.

 

[chinaman]

Sigh. Harry Kane will have retired (clearly having had a long and glorious career, winning several Ballon D'Or awards and leading Spurs to multiple domestic and European titles) before we play our first game in a new home stadium.

Levy has promised him the first game there will be his testimonial.

 

[Mustard]

This all very interesting but main point is how are you going to get 60k plus people in and out of the area?

 

[TheAmerican]

This all very interesting but main point is how are you going to get 60k plus people in and out of the area?

 

[mil1lion]

Why build a stadium with a capacity of 61000 when you can build a stadium with a capacity of 1 billion?

 

[jambreck]

I think you guys are missing the point - the changes in plans could compromise the councils arguments under the CPO application

How?

Changes to the stadium design are immaterial to the CPO. The land will still be used for the same purpose as part of a wider regeneration of the area. Countless major developments are subject to sweeping design changes but so long as the purpose for which the CPO is sought remains the same, then the argument for the CPO remains the same.

And that's why I believe that the changes to the scheme that Archway are specifically referring to (and complaining about) are the changes some time ago that meant that Spurs no longer have to provide affordable or social housing and no longer have to make some £16m worth of S106 contributions. Those changes could, legitimately, be said to have weakened the case for the CPO.

 

[jambreck]

I'm sure they've made serious plans but enic alone doesn't have the funds to just push through to create a large new stadium out of thin air which is why I belive levy really wanted the OS as that would've been within their power. And as time goes on its only going to get harder and more expensive to build it. They need a partner

Basically I really wouldn't hold your breath seeing it any time soon unless they secure one be it nfl or some filthy rich tycoon/company that wants somekind of stake in Tottenham

Spurs already made a commitment to the tune of £50m when they signed a contract for groundworks and structural work last year. That represents up to a fifth of the cost of the stadium.

Not a chance that they'd be committing that sort of money now if they weren't serious about the stadium. And no, they don't need a partner. They need funding. And that can come from a variety of sources - but most likely from borrowing. That, in turn, will be serviced by the naming rights deal.

If Spurs / Haringey win the case against Archway next month, I'll wager that it'll soon be all systems go.

 

[double0]

Talk is cheap...time for action

 

[jambreck]

Talk is cheap...time for action

Once again.........take a short walk from the High Road to the main site entrance. Plenty of action on site.

 

[dannythomas]

I'm sure Arsenal are shaking in their shoes with the news that we may 1 day have a bigger stadium than them. Emergency Board Meeting I am sure this weekend ...

 

[jambreck]

I'm sure Arsenal are shaking in their shoes with the news that we may 1 day have a bigger stadium than them. Emergency Board Meeting I am sure this weekend ...

Are you referring to the notion that Spurs are planning to build a 61K stadium in order to have bragging rights over Arsenal? If so, you are aware that that is just the Times journo's spin on the story - not a quote from Spurs?