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[TH1239]

Is anyone else remotely concerned about Townsend stalling our attacks by taking too many speculative shots from distance? It just feels like he'll be under immense pressure to justify his potential inclusion in the side, and he showed last week he has no qualms about cutting in with his left and firing a shot on goal without much thought. I don't mind him doing this from time to time to test the keeper, but I just think Lamela, even if he is still not settled, offers us more in the attack with his passing ability.

 

[RJ1882]

A lovely pass for Defoe's goal, which he may have made everyone think looked so easy, probably was to him. And some very nice touches and close control plus tracking back when required ALL in his first full 90minutes.

Hell yeh i would defo sit him on the bench after that, he most certainly isn't going to get any better

We'll see the selection tomorrow.
Of course he will become a certain started, probably, but he has looked off the pace so far. Perhaps fitness issues, or just bedding in. Didnt exactly standout against Tromso.
Cardiff will be a tough place to go this season for most teams. Cracking atmosphere and a decent side. For me, too early for Lamela. second half appearance, good rn out on Tuesday night and unleash him Saturday?

 

[Damian99]

We'll see the selection tomorrow.
Of course he will become a certain started, probably, but he has looked off the pace so far. Perhaps fitness issues, or just bedding in. Didnt exactly standout against Tromso.
Cardiff will be a tough place to go this season for most teams. Cracking atmosphere and a decent side. For me, too early for Lamela. second half appearance, good rn out on Tuesday night and unleash him Saturday?

What part of what i said warranted a "wtf" remark, i think it's you, who based an opinion after 90 minutes as slightly "wtf" ish to be honest.

 

[RJ1882]

What part of what i said warranted a "wtf" remark, i think it's you, who based an opinion after 90 minutes as slightly "wtf" ish to be honest.

What's the big deal? Spam and dislike are only negative ratings. WTF is neutral. Keep your knickers on.
Based on pass isn't enough to merit a starting slot. If that's the case do we play everyone who has scored this season?

I'll be very surprised to Lamela start. That's my opinion. We'll see.

 

[murichej]

Is anyone else remotely concerned about Townsend stalling our attacks by taking too many speculative shots from distance? It just feels like he'll be under immense pressure to justify his potential inclusion in the side, and he showed last week he has no qualms about cutting in with his left and firing a shot on goal without much thought. I don't mind him doing this from time to time to test the keeper, but I just think Lamela, even if he is still not settled, offers us more in the attack with his passing ability.

not at all. AVB will calm him down and stop him doin' that. AVB can easily handle this situation.

 

[idontgetit]

If Rose is out then we need Townsend on the left to give us a bit of pace and width. If Rose is back then I don't really mind who gets a go on the left. Lamela on the right, best to blood him early and he will probably feel under less pressure away from home. Brazilian pairing in the middle with Erikson in front of them although we have so many quality midfielder's I don't really mind who takes the deeper two spots, they're all capable. It's brilliant

 

[Damian99]

What's the big deal? Spam and dislike are only negative ratings. WTF is neutral. Keep your knickers on.
Based on pass isn't enough to merit a starting slot. If that's the case do we play everyone who has scored this season?

I'll be very surprised to Lamela start. That's my opinion. We'll see.

I didn't just base it on a pass though did i, i was merely pointing out he got an assist which set us on our way and looked comfortable with the ball showing good control and nice passing, oh yes and tracked back when called upon ALL in his first 90 minutes of which YOU claimed he hadn't really done anything(or words to the effect?) did you not??.

Sorry you said "hadn't shown enough", apart from a lovely pass for the assist of which Townsend would never have spotted or played quick enough, Lamela also showed plenty of other attributes during a dull game in general. And i saw more of a team player in that 90 than i have of Townsend to date, whose shoot on sight, no matter where anyone else is policy, isn't my cup of tea.

And as for you question, you are now just being fucking stupid imo of course. Maybe i should add i don't mind who starts Townsend or Lamela, i think Townsend is very direct but needs to play with his head up and make better use of the ball.

 

[Damian99]

Of course he will become a certain started, probably, but he has looked off the pace so far.

Looked off the pace so far, how have you arrived at that conclusion?? His 15 mins against Arsenal or his first full 90 minutes in a game that was more like attack vs defence, i despair. I cannot agree with your opinion about him based on such little evidence but as for sitting him out against Cardiff to then give him 90 against Villa fair enough BUT not because he hasn't looked good enough.

 

[Mr Pink]

People saying Lamela is off the pace so far need to apply a little reasoning to their point of view. He's only 21,doesn't speak any English and had no pre season with us. Integration is going to be a little slower with him.

In any case, it was a mature debut for me on Thursday. A lovely assist, got his head up and passed the ball well, some neat touches. All round he had a decent enough debut.

Really despair with some people's need for instant gratification.

 

[easley91]

People saying Lamela is off the pace so far need to apply a little reasoning to their point of view. He's only 21,doesn't speak any English and had no pre season with us. Integration is going to be a little slower with him.

In any case, it was a mature debut for me on Thursday. A lovely assist, got his head up and passed the ball well, some neat touches. All round he had a decent enough debut.

Really despair with some people's need for need instant gratification.

He even tracked back when needed against a side who offered next to nothing. In reality there was no need for him to do that vs Tromso, but for me he showed desire to win the ball.

 

[Spursidol]

People saying Lamela is off the pace so far need to apply a little reasoning to their point of view. He's only 21,doesn't speak any English and had no pre season with us. Integration is going to be a little slower with him.

In any case, it was a mature debut for me on Thursday. A lovely assist, got his head up and passed the ball well, some neat touches. All round he had a decent enough debut.

Really despair with some people's need for need instant gratification.

Think you have answered your own question Mr P. #

Only question is whether we get him to play lots of games over the next couple of weeks to get up to speed, or we play him maybe once a week so that he gets to PL match fitness

Within a month I am sure he and Eriksssen will be players that AVB rests reluctantly, but maybe in the next 2 or 3 weeks maybe AVB will play him in manybe 50% of the matches to bring him back to his best if AVB decides that is the best way.

 

[Jamturk]

Is anyone else remotely concerned about Townsend stalling our attacks by taking too many speculative shots from distance? It just feels like he'll be under immense pressure to justify his potential inclusion in the side, and he showed last week he has no qualms about cutting in with his left and firing a shot on goal without much thought. I don't mind him doing this from time to time to test the keeper, but I just think Lamela, even if he is still not settled, offers us more in the attack with his passing ability.

Not at all, can't win the raffle if you don't buy a ticket.

Also if a team is parking the bus then getting a couple of bullets in on their goal from distance will force them to come out and close down a bit quicker at which point we can get in behind easier.

 

[Spursidol]

He even tracked back when needed against a side who offered next to nothing. In reality there was no need for him to do that vs Tromso, but for me he showed desire to win the ball.

Agree with that, plus the assist and a few other pieces of good movement.

But on his Roma form he was doing much more. Lack of pre-season with Spurs and maybe not enough pre-season with Roma ?

Kust a question of how quickly he ios back to his best.

 

[walworthyid]

I agree AVB's expectation would be that his first choice attacking 4 would be :

Lamrla Erikssen xxxxxx​

Soldado​

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AVB's dilema right now is that Lamela has not shone in his first match and a bit - does he give him a rest so he comes good later on or does he make him play for half a dozen consecutive matches so as to better get up to speed ?​

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AVB (last season) made minimal changes to his team. Has he changed ? Or will he re-instate Sigurdssen after his brace against Norwich (although he was average otherwise).​

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AVB likes a bit of width - Walker as RB with Townsend on the left would be his best options with current injuries.​

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I don't think Holtby has shown enough yet to become a starter, despite a great assist v Tromso, probably too early for Chadli after his injury, Lennon out injured.​

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So I think its got to be Erikssen as AM flanked by two from Lamela, Townsend and Sigurdsson - for me AVB will go for Lamela and Townsend, and bringing back Sigursson (and possibly Holtby) into the starting line up against Aston Villa.​

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But its not an easy call - AVB has not rotated very much last season, so it'll be interesting to see how he uses the squad this season.​

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Lamela hasnt shone in his match and a bit? Christ on a bloody bike! Define shone? He didnt score a hatrick having taken on the entire opposition whilst tweeting on his ipad? What were you expecting? More importantly what do you think avb expected? He played just as i thought he would.

 

[Spursidol]

Lamela hasnt shone in his match and a bit? Christ on a bloody bike! Define shone? He didnt score a hatrick having taken on the entire opposition whilst tweeting on his ipad? What were you expecting? More importantly what do you think avb expected? He played just as i thought he would.

Lamela looked fantastic at Roma. He didn't have a pre-season with Spurs and may take time to settle in a diffferent league. I didn't say he had a bad match v Tromso, I said he didn't shine. He didn't stand out. but played ok. Look at the average player ratings for that match - its a decent desciption of the average marks given to him.

In a couple of months we may turn round and say it was a relatively quiet beginning based upon the form he has then and had at Roma.

 

[jimmy_the_yid]

Define shone?

Eriksen????

 

[Strikeb4ck]

I believe people like you are watching Lamela with Bale tinted glasses. You think he didnt do enough after one game? He certainly did much more than the likes of Siggs. When is he to find his feet then? On the bench? Give the guy a fucking chance!

I didn't say he was bad, I said several times in this forum he needs time to settle and he'll be immense, but if you think he's gonna play instead of Sigg who scored twice last week then I don't know what to say.

Also, this has bothered me for the past day or two, when Lamela came back to make that tackle, yes it was great and showed good quality, but please don't overlook that the ball that originally put that player in (I think it was their RB) only happened because Lamela switched off and didn't track the original run.

I've got high hopes for this kid, I think he can be one of the best and his debut was solid enough. Like I said, he'll need time to settle, and I'll give him plenty of that. But after 90 minutes on Thursday he hasn't done enough to take Townsend's spot, and although I don't rate Sig, he scored twice at the weekend, so I'd be surprised if he didn't play...

 

[Tottenham_God]

Aslong as Eriksen plays I'll be having a wank

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Anyone else think Defoe might be given a start?

Soldado - Defoe​

Eriksen ------- Townsend​

Paulinho - Sandro​

Vertonghen - Dawson - Kaboul - Walker​

Lloris​

 

[Chilli]

Did he actually perform though?

He scored two yes, but was peripheral for a lot of the match.

I'm not basing it on his last league performance in per se but he was poor against Tromso and poor in the last 3-4 games before Norwich.

Before anyone says I'm being unfair or dislike Siggy you can go check back to last season and how much I supported him.

With so many players to compete for 3 roles behind Soldado; I don't see why Siggy should warrant a start... Especially when we're away from home and would help to have pacey players on the wings who provide natural width.

Cheers, that's what was needed from the start. A statement with a reason backing it up.
I don't understand it mind you.
I wonder how much you would be loving soldado if he scored two but wasn't 'peripheral'....