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MarkyP

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It was lost in Jan......

Apologies if a thread similar to this....

but in my opinion, in Jan, we were still in the Champions League and we were looking at potentially third, never mind fourth...

Our failure to identify and or sign a striker cost us. Everyone said it at the time, or most did. Be it a 35m striker, or a someone that cost us 7m. Just SOMEONE that could score a fecking goal. Granted, some of our more recent games have seen Defoe score, but we all know that the contribution from our front line has been abysmal.

Is it a failing in Redknapp re our strikers? Too loyal to Defoe/Crouch? Limited knowledge of players outside of the Prem? Our scouting network cant be that bad considering we picked up Sandro, who was IMMENSE tonight... cant it ?

Time for a Director of Football again? Commoli got Suarez and Carroll in Jan for 'Pool, we made a last ditch effort for Neville and C.Adam....

Frustrated.... :bang:
 

Azrael

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I'd say it's a good 80:20 in favour of wages as opposed to European competition. Yeah, you can't be Stoke City, but at the same token, if you're getting offered £150k plus, where are you going to go? And where's your agent going to make you go for his 10%? Eh?
So do you think this needs to be an area Levy needs to review?
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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Aug 5, 2008
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How do you know? Do you know the rest of what went on too? Or are you believeing red top rags, and ITK?

Did harry mention it last week. We could have had him in summer for 18. We went back in jan and couldn't afford him.
 

tobi

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Jun 10, 2003
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You don't need to solely focus on £100k a week players, there are plenty of players out there that would improve the team/squad but the scouting network seems to have disappeared.
 

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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What some of you people don't understand is that when Harry came in he bought a lot of players, spending a lot of money and our wage budget has increased a whole lot since Harry came in which diminished our transfer kitty likewise.

Do any of you actually think they didn't try and get someone in? It didn't work out for whatever reason.

The fact that some of you are calling for the heads of Harry and/or Levy is embarrassing. We've had a good season, unfortunately we didn't do enough for 4th but I still don't see why we can't compete next season if we keep our best players and add a decent striker.

The knee-jerk and deludedness of some fans after one season in the CL is quite incredible. We've been mid-table shite for 20 years and now people expect CL every season... Have some perspective please.
 

Knarf44

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Anyone ever thought that maybe we wouldn't have to go out and look to spend millions on new players if the players we have were coached better!!

Our team of Harry has been coaches should take a lot of flak for not getting the best from our "talented" squad. When was the last time we looked like we might score from a corner, or a free kick or from anywhere based on the last few performances. Once again I saw us going forward a lot but not too much movement off the ball thereby making it easy for City to defend.

What Levy should be doing is telling Harry to improve his coaching staff by getting in people who have more of a clue than his current batch. What's the point of having world class training facilities if you've got the equivalent of Sunday league coaches taking the training sessions????
 

3Dnata

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On the bright side there is this EUFA fair play spending thing so I'm not sure how much city can spend on wages and transfers.
Mind you I expect the most that comes out of the financial rules would be Eufa officials getting envelopes full of cash rather than any action being taken against anyone.
 

nedley

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Jul 28, 2006
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You can only buy good players if they are available.

Sorry, I dont buy that at all.

There were, and there are players out there.

Fact is Harry wasn't convinced and thought we'd be ok.

It backfired.
 

TH1239

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Was Luis Suarez not an option for us in January? There were numerous reports and ITK's that Levy was keen on doing business with Ajax, but that Redknapp was not interested in him because he was too similar to VdV. Of course, that assertion, and those who doubted whether Suarez would acclimate to the EPL, have been proven completely wrong thus far.

Also, I find it interesting that people are harping on wages being such a critical factor for top-flight players. If that is the case, how in the hell do we manage to hold onto Bale and Modric when they are offered triple their current wages at bigger clubs poised to compete in the Champions League?
 

faulks

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Was Luis Suarez not an option for us in January? There were numerous reports and ITK's that Levy was keen on doing business with Ajax, but that Redknapp was not interested in him because he was too similar to VdV. Of course, that assertion, and those who doubted whether Suarez would acclimate to the EPL, have been proven completely wrong thus far.

Also, I find it interesting that people are harping on wages being such a critical factor for top-flight players. If that is the case, how in the hell do we manage to hold onto Bale and Modric when they are offered triple their current wages at bigger clubs poised to compete in the Champions League?

If the player is happy at the club, has just signed a longer term contract arent on a half decent wage, are a few reasons why may have held onto them. More so if they have just signed a 5 year contract, do you realise how much our asking price would be for that player?

I do not know how you can argue wages arent a massive factor for attracting top flight players? Would Yaya Toure/Tevez/Silva have gone to Manchester City from their respective clubs, if 200k+ a week was not a factor?
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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is this "off topic" ? ..

The Sunday Times rich list has Joe Lewis, the financier holding a £117m stake in THFC.

Mind you he also has £318m in Mitchell & Butler the brewers/pubs folk.

His interests are property, financial services energy, industry and consumer goods plus holdings in Russian oil and gas.

Also mentioned are his notable donations - spending on medical research and other charitable projects : £ 61.5m (nothing wrong with that btw)

Yeah, a tax loss but blow me a couple of strikers might have been worth a gamble out of the £ 100m he made last year ?
 

faulks

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Difference is he treats the club as a business and not as a toy like the City and Chelsea owners do.
 

SelbYido

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Difference is he treats the club as a business and not as a toy like the City and Chelsea owners do.

That's exactly it. We are a PLC & as such are bound to act in a financially responsible manner. City & Chelsea, on the other hand, are private companies whose owners can & do pump vast amounts of money into their respective clubs, money earned via their non-football businesses, & write off financial losses. Basically, its a hobby to them whereas with Lewis & Levy its a business. Sorry, a horrendously dry post here...:-|

The fact is we can't compete with the top clubs on wages & fees until we are CL regulars but we won't do that if can't buy good enough players or we get a new stadium, which is obviously a longer term solution. I think we'll have to work Ian Broomfield harder, maybe improve his scouting set up so we can buy younger & cheaper...

Right, I'll stop sounding like those ****s off the Apprentice now...:wink:
 

paddy30

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I still dont believe that City will be very competitive in the champions league a hard qualifying round and i think they will be back in the europa
 

RichSpur58

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Yeah, all those players that quite clearly wanted to come to Spurs, and all those clubs willing to sell players to us.

Oh wait.

FFS. Get a grip. Do you think we twiddled our thumbs when trying to get a striker? Gah!

yup. We fannied around and it cost us just like everyone said it would.
 

the yid

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Dec 14, 2010
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i don't believe that is entirely true! we have made a name for ourselves and if levy doesn't spend the money this transfer window i'll agree
 

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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I hate that people say we can only sign players if they are available. Just because they dont cost £35m in an inflated man city wonderland, doesnt mean good players arent out there that dont cost the earth. Players like Odemwingie have been a bargain for west brom and they WERE available.

The spending power we have and the draw of cl we HAD should have seen us progress, players are out there, dont be ignorant to believe they arent.
 

Black

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May 21, 2007
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Well we had darren bent but because the spurs fans didn't like him he had to go

He didn't play that "Tottenham football" "all he does is score goals"

Clueless bunch, that why i don't get to work up over the striker situation you guys are never happy

Cant blame levy, harry should get the blame while we all know we needed a striker we were going for players like Phill Neville, Charlie Adam and Scott Parker, harry just cant come out of his comfort zone scared to make the big decisions in case they go wrong, he has no balls.

Thank god for levy, just think harry wanted david james at one point lmao
 

AirTito

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That's exactly it. We are a PLC & as such are bound to act in a financially responsible manner. City & Chelsea, on the other hand, are private companies whose owners can & do pump vast amounts of money into their respective clubs, money earned via their non-football businesses, & write off financial losses. Basically, its a hobby to them whereas with Lewis & Levy its a business. Sorry, a horrendously dry post here...:-|

The fact is we can't compete with the top clubs on wages & fees until we are CL regulars but we won't do that if can't buy good enough players or we get a new stadium, which is obviously a longer term solution. I think we'll have to work Ian Broomfield harder, maybe improve his scouting set up so we can buy younger & cheaper...

Right, I'll stop sounding like those ****s off the Apprentice now...:wink:

This...:clap:

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