The VAR Thread

LeSoupeKitchen

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It's just mad we've got a system now that chalks off goals like the sheff u one against us (toe being offside about 10 passes before the goal) and the bournemouth one (questionable handball essentially gives two goals to the opponent) but can't do anything when a team massively benefits from an incorrectly given corner (man city yesterday).

I would hate VAR to start looking into things like corners but to me it demonstrates why the "rules is rules" arguement is total bollocks. You can't be mega ruthless in applying one rule and totally impotent in applying another.
 

WalkerboyUK

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The ball doesn't have to touch someone for that person to be interfering with play.

We can argue all night about whether De Gea would've had a chance of saving it had Gylfi not been in the way (he probably wouldn't have), but according to the rulebook this was a correct call but in a bit of a grey area.
First paragraph is an interesting one. I run the line sometimes for my son’s matches and the referee tells us to only flag for offside if the player touches the ball.
One match earlier this season I flagged because I believed a player was offside. Kept flag up until ball went out of play. Ref came over to me and asked why I flagged. He said as player hadn’t touched the ball it wasn’t offside.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I thought VAR had been abandoned. Not used at all in our game despite their being one clear handball in the Wolves penalty area.
Never getting a handball decision for that. Arm was down in a natural position and it was pretty much point blank at him.
 

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Is the rule the hand/arm has to move for it to be handball ?
This where the handball rule has become farcical. At one point, I think, it was wherever the hand was didn’t matter. Now, I think they’ve reverted back to the unnatural position thinking.

Im really not sure, to be honest, so happy to be corrected.
 

Graham Minshall

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VAR is a tool to be used by officials to get to the correct decision, now in my opinion, that cannot be used for subjective decisions because my opinion might be different from yours.

Now, given that officials sitting away from the game are over ruling subjective decisions made by the match officials, without asking the referee to take another look at his decision, that shouldn’t be the way forward given the ineptitude of officials in this country.

This morning I’ve read the offside law/rule which is fairly definitive, the only part that isn’t defined is the blocking of the line of sight of the goal keeper, that is subjective, if you ask the goalie has his line of sight been blocked, what would he say?

So, on to Everton’s disallowed goal, it can only be assessed on what is seen,
1, De Gea is standing up and siggi is on the floor,
2,De Gea moves in the direction of ball to his right, so it could be assessed that his line of sight wasn’t impaired,
3, as he had moved, all his weight was on his right foot, which meant he would have struggled to get to the deflected shot.
So really there was no reason to disallow the goal.

So, in this age of forensic examination of the by television, the rules of that the game are no longer fit for purpose especially with the advent of VAR.
 

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This where the handball rule has become farcical. At one point, I think, it was wherever the hand was didn’t matter. Now, I think they’ve reverted back to the unnatural position thinking.

Im really not sure, to be honest, so happy to be corrected.
I’m the same. I know longer understand what is and what is not handball.
 

rez9000

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I’m the same. I know longer understand what is and what is not handball.
It beggars belief, doesn't it, that they've pissed around so much that we can't even be sure of something that should really be relatively clear.
 
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